KY - Breonna Taylor, 26, unarmed, fatally shot multiple times by police, Louisville, 13 Mar 2020

[Kimmer]

I have a question. If it's found that for some unknown reason that officer Mattingly was shot by another officer and not Walker would that change anything in a substantial or meaningful way?

Well that may explain why all charges against KW were dropped in connection to attempted murder of a police officer.

 

[Kimmer]

The only thing that's alleged to have been false is the package issue and the remark from the Louisville Postal inspector. The rest of the information was collected during the investigation which positively linked her to Glover and came from surveillance in January and February.

Warrants issued for arrest of Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend amid leaked new documents

Breonna Taylor’s Life Was Changing. Then the Police Came to Her Door.

GPS tracking and surveillance had him picking up packages at her apartment in January multiple times. He was driving her car on video in front of the trap house. She was seen on video in February in front of the trap house. He was using her phone number and address as his own in February. She definitely had knowledge of what he was doing and in terms of time in an investigation, that information isn't old.

The only real issue is the statement from the Postal inspector and even without that, they still had enough information collected during the investigation to justify having a search warrant for her apartment.

One of the biggest issues that has caused problems was that her family didn't know the extent and the timeline of her involvement with Glover and that led to a lot of outrage because as far as they knew, she hadn't been involved with him for quite a while.

Well I hope for all of our sake that none of us are faced with a warrant being issued with false/old surveillance info, that bring LE to our door that they use a battering ram on while in street clothes and unmarked cars and expect us with 2nd ammendment and 4th ammendment rights to just lay down and let them break in our home and shoot it up and retreat back to the parking lot...cause if that is where we are headed I would protect my mother and our home the same way.
This is a very divisive case, and rather than fighting with each other being able to agree to disagree is a much better solution as well as a way to get a true conversation started rather than just trying to stir the pot. (not saying that is what you were doing)

 

[Kimmer]

Breonna Taylor Ballistics Report Inconclusive On Whose Bullet Hit LMPD Cop
BREONNA TAYLOR CASEKY BALLISTICS REPORT INCONCLUSIVEOn Bullet Hitting Mattingly

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One of the ballistics reports used to determine who shot who in the moments leading up to Breonna Taylor's death appears to contradict the Kentucky AG's version of events -- or at the very least, offer a more complete view ... which is mired in uncertainty.

Reports say that the first ballistics report conducted by the Kentucky State Police -- first obtained by VICE News this week -- could not definitively say for a fact if the 9-mm bullet that struck LMPD Officer Mattingly was, in fact, from Breonna's BF, Kenneth Walker.

In relation to the bullet that went through Mattingly's leg -- which he asserted had come from Walker firing from down the hall -- the initial KSP report reportedly says, in part, "due to limited markings of comparative value, [the] item was neither identified nor eliminated as having been fired from #45." #45

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Remember, there was a second ballistics report conducted by the FBI -- one which, in addition to the KSP ballistics report, was given to the grand jury to read -- but Cameron didn't say during his Wednesday presser which report he consulted when explaining the decision. It's also unclear what the feds concluded on this issue, and if there's a discrepancy.

The one thing that could make this moot -- namely, whether Mattingly was hit by Walker's bullet, or a fellow officer's bullet -- is the fact Walker admitted to firing a warning shot ... which, presumably, would authorize officers to use deadly force and return fire regardless.

Still, with what we know about the crime scene being potentially compromised in the immediate aftermath ... it's a troubling sign that brings up more questions than answers.

 

[Kimmer]

Cnn video
https://twitter.com/i/status/1308985795869581312

Even more damning is the fact that one of Walker's attorneys, Steven Romines, recently claimed to CNN that he and his team had obtained an internal LMPD personnel record showing Officer Hankison (who was firing from outside) had actually been issued a 9-mm handgun at some point by the department, casting doubt on AG Cameron's claim that all the officers were using .40 caliber guns that night, and that Walker had the only 9-mm.

So, what does this all mean??? Basically, that AG Cameron might've possibly not been as forthcoming in describing the ballistics report's findings -- or which ballistics report he was actually referring to when saying evidence showed that Walker had hit Mattingly first.
























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Remember, there was a second ballistics report conducted by the FBI -- one which, in addition to the KSP ballistics report, was given to the grand jury to read -- but Cameron didn't say during his Wednesday presser which report he consulted when explaining the decision. It's also unclear what the feds concluded on this issue, and if there's a discrepancy.

The one thing that could make this moot -- namely, whether Mattingly was hit by Walker's bullet, or a fellow officer's bullet -- is the fact Walker admitted to firing a warning shot ... which, presumably, would authorize officers to use deadly force and return fire regardless.

Still, with what we know about the crime scene being potentially compromised in the immediate aftermath ... it's a troubling sign that brings up more questions than answers.

 

[ivegotthemic]

The only thing that's alleged to have been false is the package issue and the remark from the Louisville Postal inspector. The rest of the information was collected during the investigation which positively linked her to Glover and came from surveillance in January and February.

Warrants issued for arrest of Breonna Taylor’s ex-boyfriend amid leaked new documents

Breonna Taylor’s Life Was Changing. Then the Police Came to Her Door.
GPS tracking and surveillance had him picking up packages at her apartment in January multiple times. He was driving her car on video in front of the trap house. She was seen on video in February in front of the trap house. He was using her phone number and address as his own in February. She definitely had knowledge of what he was doing and in terms of time in an investigation, that information isn't old.

The only real issue is the statement from the Postal inspector and even without that, they still had enough information collected during the investigation to justify having a search warrant for her apartment.

One of the biggest issues that has caused problems was that her family didn't know the extent and the timeline of her involvement with Glover and that led to a lot of outrage because as far as they knew, she hadn't been involved with him for quite a while.

Im going to have to disagree with you here for several reasons. To obtain a warrant LE needs For there to be probable cause to search particular premises, it must be reasonably likely that:

a. the specific items to be searched for are connected with criminal activities; and
b. these items will be found in the place to be searched​

Facts of the case
Taylor, who has no drug offenses on her record, shared her apartment with her younger sister, Juniyah Palmer. Neither Taylor nor Palmer has any history of drug offenses. Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, did not live in the apartment, according to the address listed on his arrest citation. He also has no history of drug offenses, and Walker was not named in the search warrant.

Jamarcus Glover, Ms. Taylor’s ex-boyfriend whose alleged packages led the police to her door that night, was arrested on Aug. 27 in possession of drugs, according to a charging document. He told The Courier Journal that Ms. Taylor had no involvement in the drug trade. “The police are trying to make it out to be my fault and turning the whole community out here, making it look like I brought this to Breonna’s door,” he said. While Taylor and Glover had a "passive" relationship, she was not "knee deep" in drug dealing with him.

The Courier Journal reported May 12 that a sworn affidavit from Jaynes said Glover was seen walking into Taylor's apartment one January afternoon and left with a "suspected USPS package in his right hand" then drove to a "known drug house" on Muhammad Ali Boulevard. But Louisville's U.S. postal inspector, Tony Gooden, told WDRB News in May that a different agency (which he did not identify) had asked in January to look into whether Taylor's home was receiving suspicious mail. The office had concluded that it wasn't, Gooden said. The report notes that Taylor's house was under surveillance, but does not find Taylor was "running drugs."

Sources:
Fact check: Posts with Breonna Taylor 'truths' include misinformation
What We Know About Breonna Taylor’s Case and Death

Probable Cause Analysis
BT has no known criminal/drug record, Nor did KW. The probable cause requirement was met because LE claims JG was receiving suspicious packages there. There's nothing illegal about receiving a package. The fact the JG then went to a "trap house" after is again not illegal. Evening assuming illegal activity occurred while there, this does not provide proof that the package JG brought with him contained drugs. Just because it could have been drugged, doesn't mean it was drugged or the it likely drugs. nor does it mean LE or anyone else should leap to that conclusion. Picking up your Amazon order than going to get high with your friends at somewhere, do not implicate either the package, BT, or her apartment. None of these facts create probable cause. to play devil's advocate lets say there were drugs in the package. LE witness JG picking up the package and leaving. There was no indication BT was storing the package or that the package was inside the apartment for any length of time. IMO even if the packages had drugs, which they didnt, they doesn't create a likelihood that they would be found in BTs apartment in the middle of the night, which is a requirement of the warrant. are these things suspicious? absolutely. But is there anything definitive tying BT or her apartment to drugs? No. So i argue no PC here.

Being seen in front of a trap house doesn't make you a drugie, or a drug dealer, or involved with drugs at all just like being spotted in a strip club parking lot doesnt make some a stripper. Its not illegal to go to a friend's house or drive in parts of the city where crime occurs. Driving by a place once also doesnt mean its a place you frequent. She could have been there for any number of reasons and we have no evidence to indicate JG has confirmed BT has nothing to do with his drug dealing. But just for the record taking drugs, or knowing someone who does, or having a friend who commits crimes doesnt make someone's life any less valuable nor does the legal requirements any different.

Furthermore, the Postal worker reported they did not find BT was receiving anything suspicious and LEs own report notes state BT was not running drugs. If there was nothing suspicious arriving in the mail and if by LEs own report BT has not taking any drugs out of the house then no probable cause exists. Additionally, they were working off of information that was 2 months old. As I understand it drug operations tend to move around alot. IMO prior to applying for the warrant LE should have done their due diligence and spent an afternoon verifying this information was still current. JG doesnt do to this location regularly, there was no reason for LE to belive he would be found there. The post offices finding of drugs was the only tangible evidence they had, everything else related to BT is speculation and guesswork.

So the fact that LE lied about it, is not a small detail to sweep under the rug. Its not a small thing, its THE THING. Without this its totally unreasonable for LE to believe drugs would be found at BTs apartment. Everything remaining looks suspicious, I'll give you that but its all circumstantial. Without probable cause, LE should not have been granted a warrant and hence, they never should have been at BTs apartment. Her death was caused by a chain of misconduct from LE and it never should have happened. Lying about the packages is what made the difference between getting the warrant and not getting the warrant.

Counterargument
GPS tracking and surveillance had him picking up packages at her apartment in January multiple times. He was driving her car on video in front of the trap house. She was seen on video in February in front of the trap house. He was using her phone number and address as his own in February:

Yes he was seen picking things up and then leaving, driving her car but without her. He was not seen staying at her apartment overnight or for a significant length of time, at least to my knowledge so it doesnt make sense for LE to believe he or his drugs would like be found there in the middle of the night.​

She definitely had knowledge of what he was doing -

I want to emphasize her that we have ABSOLUTELY no way of knowing what BT did or did not know. Seriously, how many ladies here can testify to their man lying to them about important things? Alot probably. BT sand JG had an on and off again passive thing. This could mean they very close or it could mean they told each other nothing. IMO this comes awfully close to the line of victim shaming (and im not trying to say thats what your doing) whether BT had knowledge of what JG was up to or not really makes no difference to the probable cause analysis because she was never involved and theres nothing to imply she was from LE Reports, JG himself, or her previous record. having knowledge would not somehow make a falsified lie okay, it wouldnt justify what happened to her, nor would it excuse LEs behavior. So IMO it adds nothing to a legal argument and we should therefore not speculate on it​

The only real issue is the statement from the Postal inspector and even without that, they still had enough information collected during the investigation to justify having a search warrant for her apartment.

I absolutely disagree. everything they have is circumstantial. LE never confirmed visually or from others that drugs were ever at BTs apartment. It would not be reasonble for the to believe they would find drugs there, given they were workin on hearsay.

And this is neither here nor there but Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provides that a warrant must command the officer to execute the warrant during the daytime, UNLESS the judge for good cause expressly authorizes the execution at another time. Daytime is between 6AM-10PM. I have not seen it noted anywhere they got that the judge authorized the execution of the warrant so late at night. Its very odd they did this and it just speaks to these officers continuous pattern of disregarding the letter of the law​

An innocent young woman was killed in her own home. She lives in a decent area, she had no criminal record, LEs own reports stated she wasn't dealing drugs. LE did not have a legal right to search her apartment. They did not do their due diligence in confirming the facts of the case. IMO their behavior was reckless and negligent and as a result someone lost there life. Im not trying to say every cop is bad or every precinct. This isnt even necessarily a reflection of this police force. Its simply a reflection of these officers, and the misconduct they engaged in. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

 

[sds71]

"This information is necessary, not only so that the truth comes to light, but so that Kenny may advance his claim" in his civil suit, according to the motion.
Romines argues the grand jury testimony is a court record and the judge in Walker's civil case has authority to release it, especially now that the grand jury has finished.
Since Cameron relied, in part, on the Louisville Metro Police investigation of the fatal shooting, Romines is requesting Judge Brian Edwards also release that information.

The Kentucky Rules of Criminal Procedure say grand jury proceedings and testimony are secret, although attorneys "may divulge such information" as necessary when preparing the "case for trial or other disposition."

Attorneys for Breonna Taylor's boyfriend ask judge to release grand jury transcript in search for 'truth'

 

[tresir2012]

If only one was found and only one 9mm gun, they should be able to say which gun it fired from but they don't. I think there is a question. We can agree to disagree though.

It is actually not material as KW admitted he fired his gun so they were justified returning fire. The GJ stated that it was self defence, no question we and the GJ disagree with you on that.

 

[tresir2012]

Well that may explain why all charges against KW were dropped in connection to attempted murder of a police officer.

The charges were dropped because it was determined he was justified in firing because of stand your ground laws. However if the DM is correct that he shot out of the window at the officers, I don't know if that could change.

 

[sds71]

A Louisville Metro Police sergeant never told the grand jury that the boyfriend of shooting victim Breonna Taylor had told investigators he didn’t know it was police who broke in to Taylor’s apartment.
A recording of Sgt. Amanda Seelye's grand jury testimony also shows she didn’t tell grand jurors that Taylor was killed when police returned fire while serving a no-knock search warrant March 13 at Taylor's home.
Kenneth Walker's attorney Rob Eggert attached the recording to a motion he filed Thursday asking that the charges be dismissed because the grand jury was "woefully misled."
Breonna Taylor shooting: Police misled grand jury indictment, attorney says


Wine said there is no misleading testimony and no ethical breaches of his office, but he said he does agree that more should have been presented to the grand jury.
Charged dropped against Breonna Taylor's boyfriend Kenneth Walker | whas11.com

 

[sds71]

Did the grand jury vote on homicide charges?
Attorneys say it is likely that Cameron or his special prosecutors decided on their own that the officers could not be charged with homicide on self-defense grounds.
That would mean grand jurors never voted on whether to return a homicide indictment against Mattingly or Cosgrove.
The attorneys base that conclusion on the fact that the grand jury did not file a report on either officer. The only officer it mentioned was Hankison.

Abramson said the lack of a “no true bill” on those officers suggests the grand jury did not get to cast votes on those defendants.
Some criminal defense lawyers, including Tricia Lister, say Mattingly and Cosgrove should have been charged with killing Taylor because of that exception to the self-defense law.

• “They are ineligible to claim self-defense as a justification of killing bystander Breonna, particularly since Mattingly knew it was the male who had the gun,” she wrote in a Facebook post. “He has no justification for shooting bystander Breonna, thus he can be prosecuted for her death. Had he shot Walker, the story would be different, of course.”
  
  
• Les Abramson, a professor at the University of Louisville Brandeis School of Law, said the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, which is already looking at the case, could explore whether Mattingly and Cosgrove had a legal right to firing in self-defense.
  
  He said that in turn could hinge on where Walker and Taylor were in the hallway of her apartment.
  
  “If Walker was way to the left of the officers’ angle and Taylor was way to the right, there may be an issue about whether their response was appropriate when far more bullets went in her direction than his,” Abramson said in an email.
  
  
  Breonna Taylor facts: What did Daniel Cameron present to grand jury?
  

 

[tresir2012]

"This information is necessary, not only so that the truth comes to light, but so that Kenny may advance his claim" in his civil suit, according to the motion.
Romines argues the grand jury testimony is a court record and the judge in Walker's civil case has authority to release it, especially now that the grand jury has finished.
Since Cameron relied, in part, on the Louisville Metro Police investigation of the fatal shooting, Romines is requesting Judge Brian Edwards also release that information.

The Kentucky Rules of Criminal Procedure say grand jury proceedings and testimony are secret, although attorneys "may divulge such information" as necessary when preparing the "case for trial or other disposition."

Attorneys for Breonna Taylor's boyfriend ask judge to release grand jury transcript in search for 'truth'

Is it usual for a GJ to release transcripts for a civil suit? Shouldn't the attorney do his own work collecting evidence and statements from witnesses?

 

[ivegotthemic]

Is it usual for a GJ to release transcripts for a civil suit? Shouldn't the attorney do his own work collecting evidence and statements from witnesses?

IME it really depends on the circumstances of the case. I have no doubt the attorneys are working hard on the case, that being said the rules of discovery require both the prosecution and defense to share all of the evidence they collect with each other

 

[tresir2012]

Im going to have to disagree with you here for several reasons. To obtain a warrant LE needs For there to be probable cause to search particular premises, it must be reasonably likely that:

a. the specific items to be searched for are connected with criminal activities; and
b. these items will be found in the place to be searched​

Facts of the case
Taylor, who has no drug offenses on her record, shared her apartment with her younger sister, Juniyah Palmer. Neither Taylor nor Palmer has any history of drug offenses. Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, did not live in the apartment, according to the address listed on his arrest citation. He also has no history of drug offenses, and Walker was not named in the search warrant.

Jamarcus Glover, Ms. Taylor’s ex-boyfriend whose alleged packages led the police to her door that night, was arrested on Aug. 27 in possession of drugs, according to a charging document. He told The Courier Journal that Ms. Taylor had no involvement in the drug trade. “The police are trying to make it out to be my fault and turning the whole community out here, making it look like I brought this to Breonna’s door,” he said. While Taylor and Glover had a "passive" relationship, she was not "knee deep" in drug dealing with him.

The Courier Journal reported May 12 that a sworn affidavit from Jaynes said Glover was seen walking into Taylor's apartment one January afternoon and left with a "suspected USPS package in his right hand" then drove to a "known drug house" on Muhammad Ali Boulevard. But Louisville's U.S. postal inspector, Tony Gooden, told WDRB News in May that a different agency (which he did not identify) had asked in January to look into whether Taylor's home was receiving suspicious mail. The office had concluded that it wasn't, Gooden said. The report notes that Taylor's house was under surveillance, but does not find Taylor was "running drugs."

Sources:
Fact check: Posts with Breonna Taylor 'truths' include misinformation
What We Know About Breonna Taylor’s Case and Death

Probable Cause Analysis
BT has no known criminal/drug record, Nor did KW. The probable cause requirement was met because LE claims JG was receiving suspicious packages there. There's nothing illegal about receiving a package. The fact the JG then went to a "trap house" after is again not illegal. Evening assuming illegal activity occurred while there, this does not provide proof that the package JG brought with him contained drugs. Just because it could have been drugged, doesn't mean it was drugged or the it likely drugs. nor does it mean LE or anyone else should leap to that conclusion. Picking up your Amazon order than going to get high with your friends at somewhere, do not implicate either the package, BT, or her apartment. None of these facts create probable cause. to play devil's advocate lets say there were drugs in the package. LE witness JG picking up the package and leaving. There was no indication BT was storing the package or that the package was inside the apartment for any length of time. IMO even if the packages had drugs, which they didnt, they doesn't create a likelihood that they would be found in BTs apartment in the middle of the night, which is a requirement of the warrant. are these things suspicious? absolutely. But is there anything definitive tying BT or her apartment to drugs? No. So i argue no PC here.

Being seen in front of a trap house doesn't make you a drugie, or a drug dealer, or involved with drugs at all just like being spotted in a strip club parking lot doesnt make some a stripper. Its not illegal to go to a friend's house or drive in parts of the city where crime occurs. Driving by a place once also doesnt mean its a place you frequent. She could have been there for any number of reasons and we have no evidence to indicate JG has confirmed BT has nothing to do with his drug dealing. But just for the record taking drugs, or knowing someone who does, or having a friend who commits crimes doesnt make someone's life any less valuable nor does the legal requirements any different.

Furthermore, the Postal worker reported they did not find BT was receiving anything suspicious and LEs own report notes state BT was not running drugs. If there was nothing suspicious arriving in the mail and if by LEs own report BT has not taking any drugs out of the house then no probable cause exists. Additionally, they were working off of information that was 2 months old. As I understand it drug operations tend to move around alot. IMO prior to applying for the warrant LE should have done their due diligence and spent an afternoon verifying this information was still current. JG doesnt do to this location regularly, there was no reason for LE to belive he would be found there. The post offices finding of drugs was the only tangible evidence they had, everything else related to BT is speculation and guesswork.

So the fact that LE lied about it, is not a small detail to sweep under the rug. Its not a small thing, its THE THING. Without this its totally unreasonable for LE to believe drugs would be found at BTs apartment. Everything remaining looks suspicious, I'll give you that but its all circumstantial. Without probable cause, LE should not have been granted a warrant and hence, they never should have been at BTs apartment. Her death was caused by a chain of misconduct from LE and it never should have happened. Lying about the packages is what made the difference between getting the warrant and not getting the warrant.

Counterargument
GPS tracking and surveillance had him picking up packages at her apartment in January multiple times. He was driving her car on video in front of the trap house. She was seen on video in February in front of the trap house. He was using her phone number and address as his own in February:

Yes he was seen picking things up and then leaving, driving her car but without her. He was not seen staying at her apartment overnight or for a significant length of time, at least to my knowledge so it doesnt make sense for LE to believe he or his drugs would like be found there in the middle of the night.​

She definitely had knowledge of what he was doing -

I want to emphasize her that we have ABSOLUTELY no way of knowing what BT did or did not know. Seriously, how many ladies here can testify to their man lying to them about important things? Alot probably. BT sand JG had an on and off again passive thing. This could mean they very close or it could mean they told each other nothing. IMO this comes awfully close to the line of victim shaming (and im not trying to say thats what your doing) whether BT had knowledge of what JG was up to or not really makes no difference to the probable cause analysis because she was never involved and theres nothing to imply she was from LE Reports, JG himself, or her previous record. having knowledge would not somehow make a falsified lie okay, it wouldnt justify what happened to her, nor would it excuse LEs behavior. So IMO it adds nothing to a legal argument and we should therefore not speculate on it​

The only real issue is the statement from the Postal inspector and even without that, they still had enough information collected during the investigation to justify having a search warrant for her apartment.

I absolutely disagree. everything they have is circumstantial. LE never confirmed visually or from others that drugs were ever at BTs apartment. It would not be reasonble for the to believe they would find drugs there, given they were workin on hearsay.

And this is neither here nor there but Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provides that a warrant must command the officer to execute the warrant during the daytime, UNLESS the judge for good cause expressly authorizes the execution at another time. Daytime is between 6AM-10PM. I have not seen it noted anywhere they got that the judge authorized the execution of the warrant so late at night. Its very odd they did this and it just speaks to these officers continuous pattern of disregarding the letter of the law​

An innocent young woman was killed in her own home. She lives in a decent area, she had no criminal record, LEs own reports stated she wasn't dealing drugs. LE did not have a legal right to search her apartment. They did not do their due diligence in confirming the facts of the case. IMO their behavior was reckless and negligent and as a result someone lost there life. Im not trying to say every cop is bad or every precinct. This isnt even necessarily a reflection of this police force. Its simply a reflection of these officers, and the misconduct they engaged in. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

One thing you missed out was JG told an associate in a recorded jail call that BT was holding $8k for him.

 

[sds71]

IME it really depends on the circumstances of the case. I have no doubt the attorneys are working hard on the case, that being said the rules of discovery require both the prosecution and defense to share all of the evidence they collect with each other

They released a recording of Walker’s Grand Jury proceedings to his attorney. I hope his attorney receives the transcripts from Hankison’s also.
They should release everything since it’s leaking without context.

But over the weekend, other videos have surfaced on social media, including an unidentified officer walking to the door of Taylor's apartment and asking, "Is anybody here dead?"

In addition, a Facebook account named "Julia Roberts" posted Snapchat videos containing clips of apparent body camera footage posted by Kendrick Wilson.

Wilson told reporters Sunday he obtained the footage from Sam Aguiar, an attorney for Breonna Taylor's family, who helped negotiate the family's $12 million settlement with the city. He called on Aguiar to release more of the records he'd obtained under seal, despite the settlement's requirement that attorneys destroy that evidence.
Evidence in Breonna Taylor case leaks onto social media and Vice

 

[Kimmer]

The charges were dropped because it was determined he was justified in firing because of stand your ground laws. However if the DM is correct that he shot out of the window at the officers, I don't know if that could change.

Other than the Daily Mail can you provide a MSM link that shows he shot out of a window? The officer stated KW was in the hall when the gun was fired at the officer in the doorway, the only windows that were shot through was the patio window covered by blinds and curtains that Hankinson shot into, and Breonna's sisters bedroom window that was also covered by blinds and curtains Hankinson shot into.
Link please.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Brett Hankison: Ex-cop charged with shooting into Breonna Taylor's apartment to be arraigned today

Brett Hankison's arraignment is scheduled for 3:30 p.m. ET at the Jefferson County Courthouse in Louisville. It's unclear if Hankison will appear in court, or if his attorney, Stewart Matthews, will appear on his behalf.

Hankison was charged by a grand jury with three counts of wanton endangerment last week. Hankison is charged with firing several rounds into the building following the initial shootout, allegedly putting Taylor's neighbors in danger.

Hankison faces a maximum of 15 years in prison.

 

[Deleted member 267032]

What makes you say that? Do you think if Glover shot at a cop during the commission of a felony that would make him guilty of the inadvertent death of a bystander?

Or something else?

If it can be proven that LE announced and her death resulted from Walker shooting first, I think it's possible to charge him with murder. However in this case it would be terrible optics. If it was Glover, the situation for the police wouldn't look so bad & he may have been charged.

 

[Kimmer]

I may be missing something but I am having a hard time getting both of these statements to square what am I missing?

It is actually not material as KW admitted he fired his gun so they were justified returning fire. The GJ stated that it was self defence, no question we and the GJ disagree with you on that.

The charges were dropped because it was determined he was justified in firing because of stand your ground laws. However if the DM is correct that he shot out of the window at the officers, I don't know if that could change.

 

[Kimmer]

Im going to have to disagree with you here for several reasons. To obtain a warrant LE needs For there to be probable cause to search particular premises, it must be reasonably likely that:

a. the specific items to be searched for are connected with criminal activities; and
b. these items will be found in the place to be searched​

Facts of the case
Taylor, who has no drug offenses on her record, shared her apartment with her younger sister, Juniyah Palmer. Neither Taylor nor Palmer has any history of drug offenses. Taylor's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, did not live in the apartment, according to the address listed on his arrest citation. He also has no history of drug offenses, and Walker was not named in the search warrant.

Jamarcus Glover, Ms. Taylor’s ex-boyfriend whose alleged packages led the police to her door that night, was arrested on Aug. 27 in possession of drugs, according to a charging document. He told The Courier Journal that Ms. Taylor had no involvement in the drug trade. “The police are trying to make it out to be my fault and turning the whole community out here, making it look like I brought this to Breonna’s door,” he said. While Taylor and Glover had a "passive" relationship, she was not "knee deep" in drug dealing with him.

The Courier Journal reported May 12 that a sworn affidavit from Jaynes said Glover was seen walking into Taylor's apartment one January afternoon and left with a "suspected USPS package in his right hand" then drove to a "known drug house" on Muhammad Ali Boulevard. But Louisville's U.S. postal inspector, Tony Gooden, told WDRB News in May that a different agency (which he did not identify) had asked in January to look into whether Taylor's home was receiving suspicious mail. The office had concluded that it wasn't, Gooden said. The report notes that Taylor's house was under surveillance, but does not find Taylor was "running drugs."

Sources:
Fact check: Posts with Breonna Taylor 'truths' include misinformation
What We Know About Breonna Taylor’s Case and Death

Probable Cause Analysis
BT has no known criminal/drug record, Nor did KW. The probable cause requirement was met because LE claims JG was receiving suspicious packages there. There's nothing illegal about receiving a package. The fact the JG then went to a "trap house" after is again not illegal. Evening assuming illegal activity occurred while there, this does not provide proof that the package JG brought with him contained drugs. Just because it could have been drugged, doesn't mean it was drugged or the it likely drugs. nor does it mean LE or anyone else should leap to that conclusion. Picking up your Amazon order than going to get high with your friends at somewhere, do not implicate either the package, BT, or her apartment. None of these facts create probable cause. to play devil's advocate lets say there were drugs in the package. LE witness JG picking up the package and leaving. There was no indication BT was storing the package or that the package was inside the apartment for any length of time. IMO even if the packages had drugs, which they didnt, they doesn't create a likelihood that they would be found in BTs apartment in the middle of the night, which is a requirement of the warrant. are these things suspicious? absolutely. But is there anything definitive tying BT or her apartment to drugs? No. So i argue no PC here.

Being seen in front of a trap house doesn't make you a drugie, or a drug dealer, or involved with drugs at all just like being spotted in a strip club parking lot doesnt make some a stripper. Its not illegal to go to a friend's house or drive in parts of the city where crime occurs. Driving by a place once also doesnt mean its a place you frequent. She could have been there for any number of reasons and we have no evidence to indicate JG has confirmed BT has nothing to do with his drug dealing. But just for the record taking drugs, or knowing someone who does, or having a friend who commits crimes doesnt make someone's life any less valuable nor does the legal requirements any different.

Furthermore, the Postal worker reported they did not find BT was receiving anything suspicious and LEs own report notes state BT was not running drugs. If there was nothing suspicious arriving in the mail and if by LEs own report BT has not taking any drugs out of the house then no probable cause exists. Additionally, they were working off of information that was 2 months old. As I understand it drug operations tend to move around alot. IMO prior to applying for the warrant LE should have done their due diligence and spent an afternoon verifying this information was still current. JG doesnt do to this location regularly, there was no reason for LE to belive he would be found there. The post offices finding of drugs was the only tangible evidence they had, everything else related to BT is speculation and guesswork.

So the fact that LE lied about it, is not a small detail to sweep under the rug. Its not a small thing, its THE THING. Without this its totally unreasonable for LE to believe drugs would be found at BTs apartment. Everything remaining looks suspicious, I'll give you that but its all circumstantial. Without probable cause, LE should not have been granted a warrant and hence, they never should have been at BTs apartment. Her death was caused by a chain of misconduct from LE and it never should have happened. Lying about the packages is what made the difference between getting the warrant and not getting the warrant.

Counterargument
GPS tracking and surveillance had him picking up packages at her apartment in January multiple times. He was driving her car on video in front of the trap house. She was seen on video in February in front of the trap house. He was using her phone number and address as his own in February:

Yes he was seen picking things up and then leaving, driving her car but without her. He was not seen staying at her apartment overnight or for a significant length of time, at least to my knowledge so it doesnt make sense for LE to believe he or his drugs would like be found there in the middle of the night.​

She definitely had knowledge of what he was doing -

I want to emphasize her that we have ABSOLUTELY no way of knowing what BT did or did not know. Seriously, how many ladies here can testify to their man lying to them about important things? Alot probably. BT sand JG had an on and off again passive thing. This could mean they very close or it could mean they told each other nothing. IMO this comes awfully close to the line of victim shaming (and im not trying to say thats what your doing) whether BT had knowledge of what JG was up to or not really makes no difference to the probable cause analysis because she was never involved and theres nothing to imply she was from LE Reports, JG himself, or her previous record. having knowledge would not somehow make a falsified lie okay, it wouldnt justify what happened to her, nor would it excuse LEs behavior. So IMO it adds nothing to a legal argument and we should therefore not speculate on it​

The only real issue is the statement from the Postal inspector and even without that, they still had enough information collected during the investigation to justify having a search warrant for her apartment.

I absolutely disagree. everything they have is circumstantial. LE never confirmed visually or from others that drugs were ever at BTs apartment. It would not be reasonble for the to believe they would find drugs there, given they were workin on hearsay.

And this is neither here nor there but Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure provides that a warrant must command the officer to execute the warrant during the daytime, UNLESS the judge for good cause expressly authorizes the execution at another time. Daytime is between 6AM-10PM. I have not seen it noted anywhere they got that the judge authorized the execution of the warrant so late at night. Its very odd they did this and it just speaks to these officers continuous pattern of disregarding the letter of the law​

An innocent young woman was killed in her own home. She lives in a decent area, she had no criminal record, LEs own reports stated she wasn't dealing drugs. LE did not have a legal right to search her apartment. They did not do their due diligence in confirming the facts of the case. IMO their behavior was reckless and negligent and as a result someone lost there life. Im not trying to say every cop is bad or every precinct. This isnt even necessarily a reflection of this police force. Its simply a reflection of these officers, and the misconduct they engaged in. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

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Video footage appearing to come from body cameras worn by Louisville Metro Police officers at Taylor's apartment March 13 shows potential violations of policies designed to maintain the integrity of the investigation.

In a clip posted Saturday, former Detective Brett Hankison can be seen entering Taylor's apartment while investigators are inside working the scene after her death.

In the body camera footage, Hankison can be seen about a shell casing on the ground, saying, "That's theirs?"
"That's ours, it looks like," an unidentified officer responds, before telling Hankison to "back out until they get PIU (the Public Integrity Unit) in here."
Hankison doesn't exit right away, instead asking, "Are there any guns visible?" as he shines a flashlight into the apartment. He then asks if there's a "long gun."

The former detective's presence at the crime scene would violate LMPD policies intended to keep away officers involved in a shooting from the active investigation.

The video and other evidence from the Taylor investigation have been tightly guarded.

Over the weekend, other videos have surfaced on social media, including an unidentified officer walking to the door of Taylor's apartment and asking, "Is anybody here dead?"

In one video clip, an officer he claims is not Hankison says his rounds went through Taylor's window. In another, an officer can be heard stating that there was a "Black female" shot inside, along with the shooter — indicating that police might have known that Taylor had been seriously wounded before Walker exited the apartment and was arrested.

In body camera footage reviewed, none of the officers present for the raid is separated or paired with an escort, as required under LMPD policy.

Detective Michael Campbell, who was at the raid, helps interview neighbors. And Cosgrove remains on-scene carrying a rifle.

The conduct of those officers is noted in an investigative report. And a SWAT commander, Lt. Dale Massey, later tells investigators that Hankison was "way too up in the mix" and that he requested he be separated.

Body cam video in Breonna Taylor case leaks onto social media and Vice