KY KY - Crystal Rogers, 35, Bluegrass Parkway, 3 July 2015 #1

[krig101]

She tried to but she couldn't get a hold of him until Sunday


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Very hinky!

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[krig101]

I have finally caught up on reading this whole thread. This case caught my eye as we stopped in E-town for the night on July 4th before ending up in Nashville for vacation. I heard mention of this case on the news while in the area.

A few things that I wonder about....
-Why didn't CR's mom contact BH when looking for CR? She mentions other family members but not BH?
-For such a large family that BH has, who else witnessed CR being at the farm on the evening of July 3rd?
-BH mentions 2 kids at home, CR's mom mentions just the baby???
-The car seems too set up....There is no way a woman would leave her cell phone when stranded on any road, even if someone approached in another car, a cell phone is your lifeline!
-What the heck did they have for dinner???? That convo was beyond weird!
-I wish BH would do more interviews!!!

BH's family have been very quiet since day 1

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[jULIA_bEE]

Ya this is funny. We all know in most cases we all get our phone messages, our texts, our vm's and choose to screen them and decide when a good time is to answer back or answer the next attempt to be reached. Avoiding the EX, your employer calling you in for a shift, a friend wanting to go out but you're not up to it and don't have a good excuse yet. BH made himself available come Sunday because if he is guilty of something, he wanted to get his facts straight and he wanted more time to finish ditching the car. He knows CR apparently took off by early morning and he has no idea where she is so when he sees her parents calling him, he knows darn well what they are going to ask him and this call will not benefit him so lets wait another 18 - 24 hours to talk to them.

I'm not even positive they reached him by phone. I know I read in an article somewhere that they actually had to chase him down to speak to him. Certain information keeps getting released and then they pull it down so it makes it more confusing. At this point, I guess all you can do is wait on the results from the lab.


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[krig101]

I'm not even positive they reached him by phone. I know I read in an article somewhere that they actually had to chase him down to speak to him. Certain information keeps getting released and then they pull it down so it makes it more confusing. At this point, I guess all you can do is wait on the results from the lab.


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That sure says a lot about this guy. IMO

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[lauriej]

http://www.kystandard.com/content/boyfriend-missing-woman-offered-take-polygraph

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Ballard told reporters that when she went to report her daughter missing, she saw Houck and had her granddaughter text him to tell him she wanted to talk with him. The mother said she asked Houck if he had seen Rogers, and he hadn’t. When she told him she was going to report her missing, she said, he agreed she should.

 

[jULIA_bEE]

Ya this is funny. We all know in most cases we all get our phone messages, our texts, our vm's and choose to screen them and decide when a good time is to answer back or answer the next attempt to be reached. Avoiding the EX, your employer calling you in for a shift, a friend wanting to go out but you're not up to it and don't have a good excuse yet. BH made himself available come Sunday because if he is guilty of something, he wanted to get his facts straight and he wanted more time to finish ditching the car. He knows CR apparently took off by early morning and he has no idea where she is so when he sees her parents calling him, he knows darn well what they are going to ask him and this call will not benefit him so lets wait another 18 - 24 hours to talk to them.

I'm not even positive they reached him by phone. I know I read in an article somewhere that they actually had to chase him down to speak to him. Certain information keeps getting released and then they pull it down so it makes it more confusing. At this point, I guess all you can do is wait on the results from the lab.


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[krig101]

I can't believe so much time has passed already and nothing.

 

[Inthedetails]

Ya this is funny. We all know in most cases we all get our phone messages, our texts, our vm's and choose to screen them and decide when a good time is to answer back or answer the next attempt to be reached. Avoiding the EX, your employer calling you in for a shift, a friend wanting to go out but you're not up to it and don't have a good excuse yet. BH made himself available come Sunday because if he is guilty of something, he wanted to get his facts straight and he wanted more time to finish ditching the car. He knows CR apparently took off by early morning and he has no idea where she is so when he sees her parents calling him, he knows darn well what they are going to ask him and this call will not benefit him so lets wait another 18 - 24 hours to talk to them.

That's my thinking too.

And...if he were not guilty, you would think he would be concerned if he saw an incoming phone call from his girlfriend's mother. If I received a call from someone I know but with whom I don't normally talk on the phone, my first thought would be that the call is urgent, that someone is relaying or needing important information about a loved one....ESPECIALLY if that loved one is missing!!!

Jeesh, this guy bugs me.

JMO.

 

[jULIA_bEE]

I can't believe so much time has passed already and nothing.

I kind of can only because of previous cases in Nelson co. They stay pretty quiet. I honestly would like to believe that they want nothing more for these cases to be solved but I have little faith in them. I have to give a ton of credit to Crystal's family because they've done a really good job of bringing attention to her disappearance.


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[Tssiemer]

Is this national?


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[flipflop]

I am from Canada, heard about this case while on vacation in the area. It is on CNN back at home here!

 

[Tssiemer]

Cool.


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[SchoolgirlShamus]

BBM: This from the Nancy Grace transcript. http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1507/08/ng.01.html Crystal's mom explains where all the children were:

GRACE: First of all, our prayers are going up ever since we heard about her missing, and we are all hoping and praying for her return. I want to start with you, Ms. Ballard. When did you first learn she`s missing?

S. BALLARD: Friday, her granddaughter contacted me and said she couldn`t get in touch with her. So I texted my daughter and just told her that her daughter was trying to get in touch with her and to call her. I think that was around 6:00 maybe. Around 9:30 maybe, Kylie texted me back and said she still hadn`t heard from her mother, so I started calling around to people that I think she would have talked to --

This makes no sense, and BH is going to find this a real problem IMO.

Starting in early evening and heading into night, Crystal's daughter, grandmother, mother, cousin, and apparently other folks were alerted to the fact that she was non-responsive via phone. They were worried enough to have begun the process of calling around looking for her by about 9:30 pm. Yet at midnight, she was supposedly safe at home, blithely playing games on her phone, without answering anyone to let them know she's fine?! It really stretches credibility.

I mean, I've sometimes had my phone off or not near me for a few hours, for whatever reason—but if I looked at it later only to find multiple texts from loved ones saying, "Trying to reach you...we're kinda worried..." Well, my courteous night-owl self might not call my morning-person mom if it was late at night, for fear of waking her, but I would call any friend/fam who might still be up, and I would damn sure send a "So sorry! I'm fine" text to everyone who had inquired after me!

I doubt she had control of her phone at midnight, and possibly not past 6 pm or whenever she got home that evening.

Ping locations would be interesting to know. The lack thereof, as well. If someone texted her at 9:30 pm, say, but her phone didn't ping a tower on her end, that indicates her phone was either off or out of service. (We know it wasn't destroyed, since it was found in her car.) Depending on the games, her apps and updates, plus texts or calls or any other incoming activity, pings can probably confirm whether or not her phone was even on at midnight, much less at home, as BH claims.

S. BALLARD: I called my mother, because she`s real close with her. I called my younger daughter. I called my sister-in-law, Barbara, and I don`t remember if I -- I think that`s all I called. I called Sabrina, my niece.

Sabrina is the cousin with whom Crystal sometimes stayed. So if Crystal HAD in fact been intending to visit her cousin late that night, due to a fight or a random whim, Sabrina seems to have been unaware of it. In this day and age with so much phone activity, if Crystal was leaving her home and heading to Sabrina's, it makes no sense for her not to call or text first.

It is interesting that BH brings Sabrina up as the probable overnight destination for the vanished Crystal, then Crystal's car was found on the parkway near the exit for her cousin (thank you again to jULIA_bEE for this significant info!). Sabrina had in fact already been alerted that people were looking for Crystal... but BH may have been unaware of that when he brought her up (Sabrina, that is).

I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything already said; I probably am. That's how it goes with these strange disappearances with no new info forthcoming. Your mind goes around and around like a squirrel in a cage.

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

That's my understanding, as well. I was confused about how many kids were home until I read Crystal's mother's statement to NG. Two kids staying with their dad. One daughter was visiting paternal grandparents, and another daughter lives with Crystal's parents.

Right, but that is Crystal's mother's statement. Why did BH's statement say otherwise? He distinctly said that when Crystal arrived home that night (to his home), she had two children with her. He is the one in a position to know for sure (supposedly).

I'd be likelier to assume he misspoke or misunderstood the question, except for the fact that he reinforced his statement by saying the other two kids had been dropped off at their dad's. Not once, but twice, he acted like he knew exactly what was up with the children! He definitely said that two were with her when she came home that night. ...then never mentions one of the two, again.

Crystal's mom probably has solid info, especially by now, of where all Crystal's kids actually were that night, and when. I'm not saying she's mistaken, just to be clear: I think BH is lying.

I also suspect he thought he was being all kinds of clever, but has backed away from the media after realizing (probably to his outrage and chagrin) that the public are a bit smarter than he realized.

Has he made any public statements since the Nancy Grace show? Was he only interviewed on NG the once?

 

[concernedmother]

I think the reason he wouldnt say what they had to eat is it was probably Crystals last meal. Stomach contents. Wouldn't they be able to tell time of death by that? If the food wasnt digested she would have died not long after eating. jmo

 

[EDGE1124]

This makes no sense, and BH is going to find this a real problem IMO.

Starting in early evening and heading into night, Crystal's daughter, mother, cousin, and apparently other folks were alerted to the fact that she was non-responsive via phone. They were worried enough to have begun the process of calling around looking for her by about 9:30 pm. Yet at midnight, she was supposedly safe at home, blithely playing games on her phone, without answering anyone to let them know she's fine?! It really stretches credibility.

I mean, I've sometimes had my phone off or not near me for a few hours, for whatever reason—but if I looked at it later only to find multiple texts from loved ones saying, "Trying to reach you...we're kinda worried..." Well, my courteous night-owl self might not call my morning-person mom if it was late at night, for fear of waking her, but I would call any friend/fam who might still be up, and I would damn sure send a "So sorry! I'm fine" text to everyone who had inquired after me!

I doubt she had control of her phone at midnight, and possibly not past 6 pm or whenever she got home that evening.

Ping locations would be interesting to know. The lack thereof, as well. If someone texted her at 9:30 pm, say, but her phone didn't ping a tower on her end, that indicates her phone was either off or out of service. (We know it wasn't destroyed, since it was found in her car.) Depending on the games, her apps and updates, plus texts or calls or any other incoming activity, pings can probably confirm whether or not her phone was even on at midnight, much less at home, as BH claims.


Sabrina is the cousin with whom Crystal sometimes stayed. So if Crystal HAD in fact been intending to visit her cousin late that night, due to a fight or a random whim, Sabrina seems to have been unaware of it. In this day and age with so much phone activity, if Crystal was leaving her home and heading to Sabrina's, it makes no sense for her not to call or text first.

It is interesting that BH brings Sabrina up as the probable overnight destination for the vanished Crystal, then Crystal's car was found on the parkway near the exit for her cousin (thank you again to jULIA_bEE for this significant info!). Sabrina had in fact already been alerted that people were looking for Crystal... but BH may have been unaware of that when he brought her up.

I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything already said; I probably am. That's how it goes with these strange disappearances with no new info forthcoming. Your mind goes around and around like a squirrel in a cage.

Exactly...no mother who has regular contact with their daughter is going to ignore a text from their daughter who is looking for their mom. By now I can only assume LE has verified through phone records (tower pings) whether or not CR's phone was tuned on and in the area of her and BH's home at midnight the time she was said to have been playing games on her phone. If the ping says her phone was in the vicinity, then LE is proceeding as usual for now...but if there are no pings in that area and it shows her phone in a completely different area or turned off meaning no signal...then I am sure LE are working on a secondary search (along with public one) and are getting as much evidence and questions together before they bring BH back in for more questioning.

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

I had to watch the interview because I kept reading the transcripts and there was just so much going on- especially NG's interview with BH.

Can you link me? The other night I tried looking for actual audio/video of the interview (youtube, CNN, HLN) but could find nothing.

When I created and/or edited all the transcripts in the Katelyn Markham case (OH, 2011, found deceased over 1.5 years later, unsolved, hiiiiiiiighly suspicious truth-obscuring boyfriend), I found significant errors in the transcripts the NG show provided of their interviews. In one case an entire section was cut out altogether, and I was only able to fill it in via one person who had taped the show. wtf?

Anyway, I created and corrected transcripts then, and would be glad to correct any errors again in this case, if needed. Sometimes it's just the clarification of pronouns that opens the eyes. Sometimes what the initial (lazy?) transcriber deems "crosstalk" can be separated and transcribed.

 

[GutInstinct]

Is this case making anyone else absolutely crazy? No new information. Heck, no information, period. Nothing. Nada. What the heck is going on? No pressers. No media updates. How can a missing mother of five go off the news grid? Five children are motherlesss. That's a big deal. It seems if it weren't for the parents continuing efforts...it would indeed go entirely off the grid. What is going on here sleuthers? And for a fairly obvious suspect to just twiddle his thumbs and that's ok? Why isn't he at least trying to fake that he cares or is worried? And why don't we hear anything about those FIVE kids?

 

[GutInstinct]

Note to myself on what I posted above. May be time for some tweets to news outlets to followup on this case (besides NG). @abc @cnn etc. Anyone know if there is an @ for info on CR? Or is there a # for CR? Other than the facebook? Any local links? Tks.

 

[mom2chloe]

We need Chris Cuomo! He could help us get to the bottom of things and hopefully locate Crystal Rogers. Maybe he could also get to the bottom of things regarding whatever is going on in Bardstown, Kentucky. As a local(neighboring county), Crystal's disappearance combined with the three previous murders, is quite concerning. The Ballard family deserves answers but at least some closure.