GUILTY KY - Ed Dansereau, 63, Pamela, 58, & Calvin Phillips, 53, murdered, Pembroke, 19 Nov 2015 *arrest*

[CrimeDawg123]

I have been thinking the same thing throughout this trial! Forgetting for a moment that the prosecution has major problems with their case, judging their performance only, I have not been impressed at all. Starting with the State's opening, she was so slow and monotone - zero energy. She lost me in the first 5 mins of her argument. In my opinion, neither of the prosecutors act like they fully believe their own charges. They gave a rambling opening argument and in their direct examinations they haven't even attempted to connect any of the dots to show correlation. If they are waiting until the closing arguments, it could be too late given the length of the trial. If I was the on the defense, for my close, I would take the states opening argument point-by-point and show reasonable doubt and each statement where they have failed to deliver proof and provide a visual displaying all of the problems with the case and the questions that still remain. Like, who did Kit partner with to commit these murders? It could be a long list and visually would be powerful...at least I think so.

I agree with you completely.

 

[Niner]

Niner, here are some names:

Barbara Maines Whaley - Assistant Attorney General at Kentucky Office of Attorney General
https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-maines-whaley-74b9582a
Lead prosecutor in this case.

Medical Examiner Dr. Jeffrey Springer
Kentucky Coroners Association > Staff
He was the forensic pathologist who examined the burned bodies.

Jeffrey Scott Doyle - Kentucky State Police
https://afte.org/uploads/documents/AFTE_Glossary_Version_6.110619_DRAFT_.PDF
He matched the 45 case with the Glock

Thanks! Much appreciated.

 

[BUF]

Court TV video discussing the case after state rested, if interested...

6/10/21 Ex-Pilot Charged in Triple Murder: Day 6 - Court TV


It will be interesting to see the defense case next week. Supposedly, they have 12 witnesses on their list that could be called... including a couple with the name Spencer, attorneys and private investigators.

 

[Insp/r tutu]

I have been thinking the same thing throughout this trial! Forgetting for a moment that the prosecution has major problems with their case, judging their performance only, I have not been impressed at all. Starting with the State's opening, she was so slow and monotone - zero energy. She lost me in the first 5 mins of her argument. In my opinion, neither of the prosecutors act like they fully believe their own charges. They gave a rambling opening argument and in their direct examinations they haven't even attempted to connect any of the dots to show correlation. If they are waiting until the closing arguments, it could be too late given the length of the trial. If I was the on the defense, for my close, I would take the states opening argument point-by-point and show reasonable doubt and each statement where they have failed to deliver proof and provide a visual displaying all of the problems with the case and the questions that still remain. Like, who did Kit partner with to commit these murders? It could be a long list and visually would be powerful...at least I think so.

I was late to this trial; watched the Mollie Tibbets trial intently since it was in my state so I missed the opening. Decided to read up on the case and it just seemed like a made for tv movie.

Why would an airline pilot ( good income and benes) brutally murder 3 people because he was maybe going to be court-martialed for being a spy and wife and child beater?

It wouldn't be believed in a movie; let alone real life. Like Judge Judy says " If it doesn't make sense; it didn't happen."

Edited to add: and who do they think he conspired with? The bigamist ex and her son or 2 people off the street?

 

[Insp/r tutu]

Court TV is running reruns of some interviews and I was struck by two people saying almost the exact same thing "Look across the street if we go missing". That is an interesting way to say that you are scared of someone.

Since Joan Harmon was having an affair with Cal Phillips and she was previously married ( or not) to Kit Martin, I believe she convinced Cal during pillow talk that Kit Martin was out to kill him and Pam. He believed everything she said and told Pam the same thing as well as all those other folks.

Evil people do evil things.

 

[Weki]

I tried to watch this case but unfortunately the live stream on CourtTV's website stopped working for me the last couple days. Anyway, it's a clusterduck of a case. I couldn't keep my mind off it as I keep seeing clips on YouTube so here I am...

The prosecution's opening was weak as others have already stated. The evidence is also weak but IMO I think he did it. It's just too much of a coincidence that the victims were his neighbors, had helped his battered wife/kid get out of the relationship, were the instigators of a serious court martial against him, and were going to testify against him. What else could possibly be the motive for these 3 murders? There were no other risk factors for these victims. He is it! As for blaming the ex, this is a common tactic among abusers. It's also not uncommon that people who help a battered woman escape end up being in the line of the abuser's fire. In this case, the neighbor went even further and reported him putting his job in jeopardy. The fact that he went on a media campaign to control the narrative is also quite telling as we've seen many murderers do this exact thing!

Anyway my 2 cents based on a birds eye view of the case.

 

[Insp/r tutu]

I guess I will be a broken record but Martin's first ex wife was in court supporting him as well as fiancee Laura Spencer and her kids. Joan Harmon said she would ruin his life. She had 1 or 2 husbands before Martin and apparently she told a son that his dad was decapitated in a logging accident when he was very much alive. She even tried to retroactively (17 years!!!) try to get child support from the husband she had told her son was dead.

She has been proven time and time that she is a liar. I think she set out to ruin someone who was probably the most deep pockets that she ever hooked up with.

Why do I always think of something after I hit send... From a logger to an airline pilot and now a truck driver; has she ever supported herself?

 

[fred&edna]

I guess I will be a broken record but Martin's first ex wife was in court supporting him as well as fiancee Laura Spencer and her kids. Joan Harmon said she would ruin his life. She had 1 or 2 husbands before Martin and apparently she told a son that his dad was decapitated in a logging accident when he was very much alive. She even tried to retroactively (17 years!!!) try to get child support from the husband she had told her son was dead.

She has been proven time and time that she is a liar. I think she set out to ruin someone who was probably the most deep pockets that she ever hooked up with.

Why do I always think of something after I hit send... From a logger to an airline pilot and now a truck driver; has she ever supported herself?

She certainly looks more guilty of these murders than Martin at this point.

I wish she was on the witness stand during this trial. (And, after thinking about it, I suppose that's why we didn't hear much more about how JH obtained Pam's phone and took it to the AT&T store. No one can testify about her and the phone because she is not there to answer questions).

I wonder if we will eventually learn if Martin set his 1 am "Top Gun/Danger Zone" alarm (to check the kerosene heater?) on any other days than the one already stated.

JMO

 

[Insp/r tutu]

She certainly looks more guilty of these murders than Martin at this point.

I wish she was on the witness stand during this trial. (And, after thinking about it, I suppose that's why we didn't hear much more about how JH obtained Pam's phone and took it to the AT&T store. No one can testify about her and the phone because she is not there to answer questions).

I wonder if we will eventually learn if Martin set his 1 am "Top Gun/Danger Zone" alarm (to check the kerosene heater?) on any other days than the one already stated.

JMO

She and her son were really scared about having to be under oath. (not that that makes a difference; if there are different stories someone is not telling the truth.) The truth as they see it.

I live in the cold north and had stoves where you had to stoke the fire in early morning. So it is possible. It can be cold or warm in Noveber.

Maybe he set the alarm AM rather than PM. I admit it doesn't look good if he just set it for that morning.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I don't know what to think about this case. IMO the prosecutor's case has been weak but then again I don't really understand what they are shooting for with the complicity charge.

Re the dog tags - he wouldn't normally wear his dog tags, would he? That they mysteriously showed up seems pretty suspicious to me.

 

[BUF]

There is a whole lot that I would like to have seen in this trial, including JH on the stand, but that hasn’t happened and won’t. So many unanswered questions, and so many stories out there that could have been spread by different sources, including CM. So much has been insinuated without the evidence to back it up...so far at least.

People are left without their loved ones and without a clear path to what happened for the murders of these three lives. Sadly, I am doubtful they will ever get resolution from this trial, although it is not over yet.

One thing that really baffles me... with all these nosey neighbors, did anyone hear all those gunshots?

 

[BUF]

Some notes from Court TV...

Defense’s case may take up to three days.

Witnesses expected to be called...
John Reeves, cell data expert
Mary Martins, Private Investigator CM hired
Mike Conzachi, from NCFM, retired detective*
Tucker Richardson
Dorris Ray Stokes
Holy Stokes
McKenzie Bennett, daughter**

*NCFM is that group who was supporting CM and published that 2016 article someone posted

** Daughter is expected to say that she was there when JH said I will ruin you if you divorce me... imo, I guess this is supposed to counter the 3 witnesses that said CP told them if anything happens to me look at CM


CM made tissue flowers for his fiancé and stepdaughter & passed them to his attorney to pass to them?

 

[Insp/r tutu]

Some notes from Court TV...

Defense’s case may take up to three days.

Witnesses expected to be called...
John Reeves, cell data expert
Mary Martins, Private Investigator CM hired
Mike Conzachi, from NCFM, retired detective*
Tucker Richardson
Dorris Ray Stokes
Holy Stokes
McKenzie Bennett, daughter**

*NCFM is that group who was supporting CM and published that 2016 article someone posted

** Daughter is expected to say that she was there when JH said I will ruin you if you divorce me... imo, I guess this is supposed to counter the 3 witnesses that said CP told them if anything happens to me look at CM


CM made tissue flowers for his fiancé and stepdaughter & passed them to his attorney to pass to them?

There were a few touching moments for me during the testimony so far. One was the tissue flowers Martin made. Another was the long time girl friend of Dansereau; she seems like she is so lonesome. Also, it is odd to me that Pam Phillips didn't know about the affair Cal was having with Joan. Did they have an open marriage? I knew when my husband was and made him pack his stuff up and hit the road.

 

[Insp/r tutu]

There were a few touching moments for me during the testimony so far. One was the tissue flowers Martin made. Another was the long time girl friend of Dansereau; she seems like she is so lonesome. Also, it is odd to me that Pam Phillips didn't know about the affair Cal was having with Joan. Did they have an open marriage? I knew when my husband was and made him pack his stuff up and hit the road.

Cal Phillips was killed in the AM, wasn't he? Was it proven that at that time Kit Martin was piloting an airplane during that time period? Kinda hard to shoot someone when you about 30,000 feet in the air. Pam and Ed were killed late afternoon when the fiancee and her 2 kids were home. Nobody heard anything?

 

[armybandjag]

Court TV is running reruns of some interviews and I was struck by two people saying almost the exact same thing "Look across the street if we go missing". That is an interesting way to say that you are scared of someone.

Since Joan Harmon was having an affair with Cal Phillips and she was previously married ( or not) to Kit Martin, I believe she convinced Cal during pillow talk that Kit Martin was out to kill him and Pam. He believed everything she said and told Pam the same thing as well as all those other folks.

Evil people do evil things.

Agreed. When I was practicing Court martial defense, I had a slew of sexual assault cases where personality disorders, particularly borderline, came into play for cases where custody of a child was involved. These cases always involved a disinformation campaign, gaslighting, and a history chaotic episodes with poor decision making. The guy was always clean, except for the disinformation campaign the woman began against him. Subsequent guys would think the previous guy was an abuser and violent, until they became the abuser and violent to a subsequent guy based on the lies told during the disinformation campaign. These types of women perpetuate a cycle of abuse and violence in their minds over and over again leaving a trail of ruined men in their wake. If all that stuff about Joan is true, then she fits the type.

 

[Spiritecho]

Supposedly, Kit Martin killed Cal Phillips sometime in the morning. He then went back home, cleaned up and went to work.
No one heard any shots that we know of. No bloody bat, board, piece of wood was found that the ME opined Cal was hit with.
He then comes home and about an hour later he goes back over to the Phillips home, he kills who first? Pam is killed at the back of the house, same area that Cal was killed?
He then kills Ed in the backyard, we know Ed was seriously injured or killed in the backyard based on the blood pool area and his gun. Ed's body was taken where? to the house? Again, no one heard 8+ shots.
Pam's car is turned around and the bodies loaded then? No way, as the neighbor had gone by there approx 7 pm. She would have seen both bodies.
He then goes back home, again needing to clean up, greets his family and has dinner and watches tv until approx 1 am. Where he again goes to the Phillips home, loads the bodies, drives them out to the burn area and returns back to his house in Ed's car, as it had gone missing.
So in all that scenario keep in mind that Kit Martin had to have killed two people, driven Ed's car out to the site, left it there until he brought the bodies and burned the car, returns home, cleans up and gets back in bed at 2:30/3 am.
There are no significant blood pools in the Phillips home, which is odd to me. No one heard any gunshots.
Why would Kit come back and kill Pam and Ed in the late afternoon, early evening? Cal was the only one to testify against/for him. I understand Ed was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pam had called him to look for Cal. They were both surprised by the killer. There is no proof that Kit drove Pam's phone to Joan's home, nor did Kit try to access that phone or take it in to ATT. By this time, Joan and Kit had nothing to do with each other and both lived with new partners.
Joan, imo, is a liar and manipulator, based on some testimony and reading online, this isn't her first time trying to screw up someone's life.
I hope the Defense is able to clarify some of this. As of now, I'd have to find Kit Martin not guilty. All MOO

 

[Insp/r tutu]

So, no one at home misses him when he is doing all this murdering and burning? Court tv said the burn site was 5 miles from the houses. He walked? Yet he still worked that day after all that extra murdering and burning.

Common sense still says he wasn't the one who did all that.

I am really looking forward to the defense strategy tomorrow morning.

 

[Niner]

Monday, June 14th:
*Trial continues (Day 7) (@ 9am ET) – KY – Edward Dansereau (63), Pamela J. Phillips (58) & Calvin Lee Phillips (53) (Nov. 19, 2015, Pembroke) - *Christian “Kit” Richard Martin (51/now 53) arrested & charged (5/11/19), indicted (5/10/19) & arraigned (5/22/19) with 3 counts of 1st degree murder, 1 count of arson, 1 count of attempted arson, 2 counts of 2nd degree burglary & 3 counts of tampering with evidence. Plead not guilty. Held without bond, changed (10/16/19) to $3M bond.
May, 2016 was convicted of 2 counts of mishandling classified materials & 2 count of assault on a child; sentenced to 6 months in jail & discharged from the military.
Trial began on 6/2/21 with jury selection & concluded. Trial started on 6/3/21 (Day 1) & will be in Hardin County moved from Christian County due to pretrial publicity. Jurors: 10 men & 4 women (2 are alternates). Juror is excused (6/7/21) for medical reasons. 1 alternate left.
Court info from 5/22/19 thru 6/1/21 & Jury selection (6/2/21) & Trial Day 1 to 5 (6/3/21 to 6/9/21) reference post #291 here:
KY - Ed Dansereau, 63, Pamela, 58, & Calvin Phillips, 53, murdered, Pembroke, 19 Nov 2015 *arrest*
6/10/21 Thursday, Day 6 of Trial: Note for yesterday (6/9/21): Medical examiner was Dr. Jeffrey Springer. Also on the stand former Deputy Coroner Zack Lamb & Christian County Sheriff's Deputy Scott Noisworthy & Lt. Scott Smith. State witnesses on 6/10: Cell phone examiner, no name given. The Commonwealth did not have their witnesses ready to go. Retired KSP ballistics expert Jeffrey Scott Doyle, who analyzed the shell casing. The Attorney General’s Office rested its case Thursday after calling their final witness in the afternoon & 2 motions put forth by the defense were denied. Following the conclusion of the Commonwealth’s case, the defense renewed their motion to dismiss the charges against Martin due to information involving cell phone tracking evidence given to the grand jury in error resulting in the indictment. Judge John Atkins denied that motion, saying his stance on that has not changed & he believes the grand jury acted accordingly. Public defender Doug Moore then requested the judge make a directed verdict, which is a ruling entered by a trial judge after determining that there is no legally sufficient evidentiary basis for a reasonable jury to reach a verdict. He argued that the prosecution has provided no evidence that puts his client at either scene involved in the murders or was involved, either alone or in complicity. Judge Atkins declined to make a directed verdict, saying it will be up to a jury to decide. The defense is set to begin its case to the jury on Monday, 6/14/21.

 

[fred&edna]

OBJECTION! The Commonwealth objected so loudly it startled some jurors, trying to block Attorney Katherine Foster from testifying about her prosecution of Joan Harmon for bigamy.

https://twitter.com/JuliaCourtTV/status/1404442092856922115

Foster says there was implicit pressure from the Army JAG officer handling Martin’s court martial to drop her prosecution of Joan Harmon. That JAG officer, Major Garrett, testified during the Commonwealth’s case that he just called out of courtesy which is common.

https://twitter.com/JuliaCourtTV/status/1404442734522404870

 

[fred&edna]

JMO - I found Katherine Foster's testimony very interesting/telling!