Identified! KY - Eddyville, Lake Barkley, WhtMale 35-50, UP75, wrapped in tire chains anchored by hydraulic jack, May’99 - Roger Dale Parham (Wanted by FBI)

[Trudie]

Size. A truck tire is a much different size than tires used on farming equipment.

I’m on large farms every day, working farms. The men have & use chains for a host of things, short chains, long, chains, heavy chains. Even using chains to pull calves every now & then. My experience, men love chains, like women love shoes.

wanted to add: just asked a 30 year OTR trucker if 8 ton bottle jack is sufficient for a semi. He rolled his eyes & said “for about two seconds.” Opinion only. I have no background in jacks or semi trucks.

 

[Valiant]

I’m on large farms every day, working farms. The men have & use chains for a host of things, short chains, long, chains, heavy chains. Even using chains to pull calves every now & then. My experience, men love chains, like women love shoes.

wanted to add: just asked a 30 year OTR trucker if 8 ton bottle jack is sufficient for a semi. He rolled his eyes & said “for about two seconds.” Opinion only. I have no background in jacks or semi trucks.

A chain to pull something is entirely different from a tire chain. Here's what a truck tire chain is going to look like:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Peerless-Chain-Truck-Tire-Chains-0221930/19853281

 

[Trudie]

A chain to pull something is entirely different from a tire chain. Here's what a truck tire chain is going to look like:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Peerless-Chain-Truck-Tire-Chains-0221930/19853281

I know exactly what a tire chain is, I grew up on Lake MI. I also know they can have other purposes. At least imo, as I know guys with broken tire chains that still use the linked pieces. My opinion only.
A Trucker's Quick Guide to Chaining Up A Big Rig Truck
as we see on this illustration, the links are very large & no man I know would discard broken semi tire chains. Again, MOO

 

[UnderstandBlue]

I’m on large farms every day, working farms. The men have & use chains for a host of things, short chains, long, chains, heavy chains. Even using chains to pull calves every now & then. My experience, men love chains, like women love shoes.

wanted to add: just asked a 30 year OTR trucker if 8 ton bottle jack is sufficient for a semi. He rolled his eyes & said “for about two seconds.” Opinion only. I have no background in jacks or semi trucks.

A bottle jack is something that would come with a fleet vehicle, going back to my construction / electrician / wire theory. Our vans and box trucks for our fleet (electrical contracting) came with them standard. Not nearly as common in the cars we all drive - I've never bought a new car that came with one. They're also used in foundation work, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Trudie]

So Tennessee is upstream? I guess that means the body could have floated down quite a distance?

I believe water flows north to south.

 

[Trudie]

Lake Barkley Lake Levels
The lake's level is fluctuated from summer to winter for flood control purposes. Summer pool (359 ft. sea level) is normally reached by May 1. The water level begins dropping gradually on July 1, and winter pool (354 ft.) is reached by December 1. The spring rise starts April 1. The lake's water surface area varies accordingly from 57,920 acres at summer pool to 45,210 acres at winter pool.

Kentucky Lake & Lake Barkley Levels, Conditions and Water Temperatures | KentuckyLake.com

era: very small shoe size for such a tall man, moo

 

[Trudie]

Decomposition Changes in Bodies Recovered from Water
interesting read but GRAPHIC images

this is enlightening as well
What Happens When You’re Buried at Sea?

 

[Trudie]

A cadaver in the water starts to sink as soon as the air in its lungs is replaced with water. Once submerged, the body stays underwater until the bacteria in the gut and chest cavity produce enough gas—methane, hydrogen sulfide, and carbon dioxide—to float it to the surface like a balloon. (The buildup of methane, hydrogen sulfide, and other gases can take days or weeks, depending on a number of factors.) At first, not all parts of the body inflate the same amount: The torso, which contains the most bacteria, bloats more than the head and limbs. The most buoyant body parts rise first, leaving the head and limbs to drag behind the chest and abdomen. Since arms, legs, and the head can only drape forward from the body, corpses tend to rotate such that the torso floats facedown, with arms and legs hanging beneath it.

Why are bodies in the water always facedown?

 

[Trudie]

Death by Drowning - Cambridge Criminal Defense Lawyer

fascinating info here

 

[carbuff]

about the semi truck chains, heavy chains are all likely the same, right? How is a semi chain distinguishable from a chain used on water craft or farming implements?

snipped by carbuff
All MOO

No, not that kind of chains. These are the chains you put on your tires to get through snow, ice, or sometimes slippery mud. Sample of typical types: Truck Tire Chains | Free US Shipping

They're not fundamentally different from the ones you'd put on your car, but they're a lot bigger because the tires are bigger. The semi chains are also heavier/sturdier because they have to handle more weight and wider because they go over both rear duals together.

 

[Trudie]

No, not that kind of chains. These are the chains you put on your tires to get through snow, ice, or sometimes slippery mud. Sample of typical types: Truck Tire Chains | Free US Shipping

They're not fundamentally different from the ones you'd put on your car, but they're a lot bigger because the tires are bigger. The semi chains are also heavier/sturdier because they have to handle more weight and wider because they go over both rear duals together.

No prob! I grew up where every vehicle needed chains for months. I know what they are. I also know people that recycle their chains, especially the large links. No farmer in my neck of the woods will throw away any large links.
I’m merely stating my experience.
Idk if he was wrapped on semi chains, or not. Perhaps car chains?

 

[carbuff]

No prob! I grew up where every vehicle needed chains for months. I know what they are. I also know people that recycle their chains, especially the large links. No farmer in my neck of the woods will throw away any large links.
I’m merely stating my experience.
Idk if he was wrapped on semi chains, or not. Perhaps car chains?

The ViCap poster says "semi-truck snow chains."

 

[Trudie]

The ViCap poster says "semi-truck snow chains."

I know but the NamUs doesn’t specify, so idk. just like the conflict about height. Perplexing.
In any case, I hope one day he’s identified.

 

[MadMcGoo]

re: this dang button

I was reading through a different UID case and part of his clothing description caught my eye...

“Rocawear t-shirt with "Rocawear, Strength, Knowledge Respect, Pride MCMSCS 99 Authentic Goods" printed on the front...”

Popular in the 90s, latter part IIRC. I’m familiar with the brand although I don’t wear it myself so I had to look it up. I can definitely see the design on our button coming from Rocawear. If you google the brand, specifically as described in the other UID profile, you’ll see they had/have a unique style and released different variations of that overall style... I didn’t see anything that matched this pattern exactly, but wanted to post for those still hunting the button’s origin (as I obviously am )

ETA: if we can find that this is a “99”, it might help narrow down PMI. I still think it’s more likely a BR than a 99, but FWIW!

 

[PezCandy]

I keep forgetting to post about the button but I think it’s an older men’s banana republic button! They had them like that, I couldn’t find the exact button but ones very similar on one of their 90s jeans line, it’s tough hunting down the exact button

 

[PezCandy]

I love Rocawear. It was a really popular brand when I was in high school (circ 2005) I still see the line being sold but not as much. Mainly swimwear nowadays.

 

[PezCandy]

@MadMcGoo is there a thread on here of the UID you mentioned above? Not much info on him :/

 

[Trudie]

I keep forgetting to post about the button but I think it’s an older men’s banana republic button! They had them like that, I couldn’t find the exact button but ones very similar on one of their 90s jeans line, it’s tough hunting down the exact button

I think Banana Republic too.

The towels & two jackets & tennis shoes make me think he was a barge or tug employee. I have a large truck stop around the corner from me, I fill my car up & get coffee all the time, all the truckers I see wear boots.

 

[Trudie]

Another thing, if you search “barge job openings”, you’ll see most have excellent benefits, including dental!
I think if a barge is docked, it’d be quite easy to “off” someone & tell the rest of the crew “yeah, ole John Doe met a lady, he’s done......”, barge resumes its travels, they don’t wait around for deckhands that might never return. With direct deposit, the payroll department wouldn’t realize a check had not been cashed. All moo

 

[MadMcGoo]

@PezCandy No, that UID does not, he’s listed on LE website and he’s been assigned a NamUs case number, but the NamUs profile is unpublished ... consensus is he has either been identified and not removed from the agencies website or his NamUs profile is being amended. So, just holding off to see if there’s an update on one or the other.

@Trudie I’ve never paid any attention to footwear, we have a few truck stops throughout TX lol... I’m not particularly fixed to the trucker theory. For several reasons. But IMO, the shoes are out of place or the dental work is out of place...or this man has experienced both hard times and times when he was reasonably (financially) well off. The barge theory is most intriguing to me at this point.

JMO

ETC: truck stops not trucks tops... what a difference a space makes lol