KY KY - Katie Gray, 10 months, West Paducah, 29 Nov 2004

[LovelyPigeon]

Dec 30
Police suspended the search two weeks ago because of high water levels. Wednesday police said they would resume the search soon as long as the weather permits.

Both of Katie's parents were arrested recently. Johnnie Gray was released from jail Tuesday after being charged for driving on a DUI suspended license. Sandy Gray is still in the McCracken County Jail on her third DUI offense. - http://www.wpsdtv.com/articles/stories/public/200412/29/0ztt_local_news.html

 

[LovelyPigeon]

I don't know when Johnnie Gray was arrested before being released on Tuesday--he may have been arrested and released the same day. I don't know when his license was suspended for DUI, either.

It looks more and more as if alcohol was a contributing factor to Katie's disappearance.

Our 14-inch snowfall is melting in 50 degree weather, which doesn't make wet conditions any better yet but it is warming up for a weeklong stretch. Rain is predicted for the weekend so the search may still not be resumed until next week.

 

[lisag]

I really hope they find this little girl. This is so sad.

 

[NewMom2003]

Thanks for all the updates LP. I pray that they find this little girl so that she can have a proper burial. What a horrible tragedy.

 

[englishleigh]

I wonder if these parents were drunk that night, which is why they drove into a flood zone and why they weren't able to hold onto their child??? They sound like alcoholics....just horrible!!

 

[TisHerself]

Thank you for the updates LP, I'm pretty sure alcohol was involved however this baby died.

 

[Fran Bancroft]

I wonder if these parents were drunk that night, which is why they drove into a flood zone and why they weren't able to hold onto their child??? They sound like alcoholics....just horrible!!

My thought is that you've hit the nail on the head. Alcoholism and being drunk would explain all of it, sadly.

People just don't realize how horrible the effects of alcohol can be.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

The friends that the Grays went to that night said that Johnnie Gray said there were reasons why the Grays hestitated telling the truth about Katie being in the creek and hestitated about calling the police. Maybe alcohol use is the reason. It's no excuse, but it may have been their reason--both had DUI convictions.

 

[englishleigh]

The friends that the Grays went to that night said that Johnnie Gray said there were reasons why the Grays hestitated telling the truth about Katie being in the creek and hestitated about calling the police. Maybe alcohol use is the reason. It's no excuse, but it may have been their reason--both had DUI convictions.

If my baby was missing and in a friggin' swollen creek, I wouldn't care about getting into trouble for being drunk...I would be screaming and jumping up and down to tell LE so that they could find her!!!!

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Today's Paducah Sun has an article about Johnnie Gray taking a 2nd police polygraph recently (the first was deemed inconclusive), which Gray says shows he has told the truth to police about what happened, that Katie is in the creek, and that nothing was staged.

The sheriff had no comment about the polygraph or results.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

englishleigh, I think the same way you do. I can't imagine leaving the creek, lying to friends, going home, then coming back to friends although afraid to call police for my own protection (or that of my spouse). It looks from the information we have as though the parents' own wellbeing was more important to them than their baby daughter's.

 

[TisHerself]

Ok so these two losers after thier baby slips out of his hand into the creek. They are both too drunk to save her, but they have enough wits about them to know they have to get sober first before they call police. So they must have discussed this, they go to thier friend's house and neither one mentions thier baby is in the creek. They go the store buy cigs then go home, when did they decide they had better come up with a reason why they would have a missing child?:waitasec:

 

[Love_Mama]

I'm coming into this thread real late but it looks to me..that after having read all the posts that both parents are alcholics......they drink every single day and they drink alot. Anyone who's had 3 DUI's......is a serious 'drunk' However, don't think this mean's that they meant to kill their daughter......which makes this so tragic! I'm thinking they can't even remember much of what happened. What a horrible story.
Thanks for posting LP. I guess this is why people say how many lives are affected by alcholics. It's horrible. What a beautiful child.

xxxxxxxxoooooooo
Happy New Year Everyone.......
mama

 

[TisHerself]

These two were probably drinking but they know exactly what happened to Katie. There is no way two people in an alcoholic blackout ( they don't remember what happened) can stick to the same story. Before they got to thier friends house they both agreed on a story,they did not mention she was in the creek. They were not that drunk, and something is very wrong here with the way that baby died.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

I'm no believer in polygraphs, and I don't think Gray is off the hook by reason of passing one (if he actually did "pass" in the judgement of the administrator) but meantime it makes it difficult for LE to do anything else but search the creek area below where the car became stuck.

Maybe these parents were intoxicated and irresponsible which resulted in their child's death. That won't make them innocent but it might make them responsible for an avoidable death rather than for a murder.

It's so wet and muddy here now, with water standing everywhere. The weather was warm today--up to almost 70 degrees as opposed to -1 a week ago!--but I don't conditions are yet where the search can continue.

Katie is out there somewhere, and it breaks my heart that she isn't found-- no matter how she became lost or how she died. Until she's found it seems unlikely any charges will be filed relating to her death.

 

[TisHerself]

I just keep praying they will find her. I hope the weather breaks for them.

 

[Casshew]

Any updates on katie?

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Winter here is very wet--it either rains or it snows. The river is presently at flood stage, due to rain and melting snow upstream, north of Kentucky. Some creeks are flooded and some farmland is under water. It won't be "dry" for several months if typical weather patterns hold.

The search is suspended until weather conditions allow, and that could be late spring.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Memorial service held for baby Katie:

http://www.wpsdtv.com/articles/stories/public/200501/23/00Cl_local_news.html

 

[Casshew]

[font=Arial,Sans-serif][font=times new roman,arial,helvetica][size=+0]Her father, Johnnie Gray, wrote a poem for his daughter that was read at the memorial. Pastor Mike Moynahan recited,

"One day this nightmare will be in the past and reunite us together at last."


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