Found Deceased KY - Savannah Spurlock, 22, left 'The Other Bar' with 2 men, Richmond, 4 Jan 2019 # 2

[BlinkOfAnI]

I am sure it has been covered but....
Considering the drug problem in this country, what if she overdosed and the guys freaked out, disposed of her body and now are all afraid to speak up? In other words, maybe the three of them didn’t kill her but are guilty of a cover up. In any case, there are three of them and one of them will crack in time. I think. I hope.
It makes me very sad that a person goes missing and no one comes forward to say what happened. I agree with her mom of course, someone knows.

I think that is a good possibility. If true those that "covered up" have made things much harder on themselves as far as legalities. Example from my state: 2 people doing drugs together. One overdoses. The other panics and drives the body to a parking lot and leaves. Days later police identify the driver via investigation and surveillance video. He admits everything upfront and is charged with an m-4 abuse of a corpse (not even a jailable offense). It would seem at this point of investigation in SS's case there are many more charges the men would face ie: obstruction, withholding evidence etc.. I can't say it's the same in KY but after being interviewed and not being honest they have made things much worse for themselves. JMO

 

[Trudie]

Wow. Perhaps residents should call/write their complaints in to the local news media. Imagine if next time it is someone close to you. The last thing family should have to do when looking for a MP is sit around calling the media. It's just too easy nowadays for them to get the information within seconds, actually. Sorry, just saying I think we might should hold media accountable. They're quick to remind us that "OMG, she's a mother of 4 with brand new twins!" Make them do their darned jobs for the money.

I think there’s no news.
They reported searches were taking place & evidently there’s nothing more to say. Or, did LE not give an update?

 

[Trudie]

I am sure it has been covered but....
Considering the drug problem in this country, what if she overdosed and the guys freaked out, disposed of her body and now are all afraid to speak up? In other words, maybe the three of them didn’t kill her but are guilty of a cover up. In any case, there are three of them and one of them will crack in time. I think. I hope.
It makes me very sad that a person goes missing and no one comes forward to say what happened. I agree with her mom of course, someone knows.

Yea, we touched on this at the very beginning.

 

[ilovematt]

In my early 20’s I was into the club & EDM scene and I can’t tell you how many times I not only went home with strangers or how many came to my house. We were going back to do drugs that keep you up, so night turns into tomorrow fast. The after party doesn’t shock me at all. She’s also very charming it seems so she may have the gift of gab and feel like she knows people quickly. I do agree with those of you who think it’s telling to be at a bar so soon after a DWI and it’s mind boggling that the mom agreed to her going out and taking her car. I would be on my moms list and she’d be lecturing me 24/7 about getting my life together, nagging me to death. That’s my mom though..

 

[jULIA_bEE]

You don't need a body to prosecute someone for murder. I have not heard that the 3 men have lawyered up. Maybe they have. I would think by now LE would have the evidence to charge if it existed.

You don’t need a body but you’d be hard pressed to find a commonwealth’s atty that will prosecute without a body, credible corroborating witness or an actual confession. Crystal Roger’s case is the perfect example. They have a lot of circumstantial evidence but the commonwealth atty has refused to take it to court until her body is found or someone makes a confession.

 

[MizStery]

what if she overdosed and the guys freaked out, disposed of her body and now are all afraid to speak up? In other words, maybe the three of them didn’t kill her but are guilty of a cover up. In any case, there are three of them and one of them will crack in time. I think. I hope.

Your post made me remember a similar story.

‘Love Never Fails’ this story from the NY Post is a similar scenario to the one you cited in your post. The victim in the this case was a beautiful married dermatologist, the mother of two small children who was found dead in a NY doorway in 2015.

The investigation revealed that previous evening Dr Cerveny had met up with with a male friend who worked for HBO. She had over dosed on cocain and her ‘so called friend’ and his junkie just carelessly propped her corpse in the apartment building doorway and left her there for dead.

Dermatologist left for dead in NY Chelsea Doorway
Oct 4,2015
Cerveny had told her husband, a fellow dermatologist, that she was headed out Saturday for an innocent night on the town, sources said. Police spoke to him at the 10th Precinct station house Sunday, but investigators believe he had nothing to do with her death.

“The husband said she was going out with some friends, and she did go out,” a source said.
​

https://nypost.com/2015/10/04/woman-found-strangled-in-doorway-of-chelsea-building/

Very sad story. I couldn’t help but think of the tragic similarities between these two young women.

Just My Opinion.

 

[rsd1200]

Has this been posted?
Missing Kentucky mom taken to rural home, police say

Interesting article!

Some info conflicts with earlier info. It seems she does not know any of the people she left with. She's in the backseat, and then the front seat? I wonder if the testing, they aren't releasing, showed she was both in the front and the back, a slip up, or reporting error? It also kinda sounds like her mother is the one who called SS, too. If the phone was on, then it would ping off of the nearest tower, until it was turned off. If she had her gps on, that would help narrow it down a lot. They probably could have gotten the phone's general location pretty quickly. (see link)

Spurlock was transported from the bar in the backseat of a vehicle with two of the men, while a third man followed in a separate vehicle. Both vehicles have undergone forensic testing, but officials don't plan to release their findings at this time.

She said she spoke with her daughter on FaceTime, and "observed that there was a man driving the car. Savannah was in the passenger seat. There were at least two people in the back seat talking.

I heard one of them tell me to ‘chill.’ They were also hollering other things but I couldn’t make it out. I was just checking on my daughter.”

Investigators said that Spurlock's phone, which they have not located, was turned off around 8:30 a.m. that morning.

Interesting article on cell phone info and using gps and cell tower info.
Cell Phone Analysis, Part 2 | Hendon Publishing

No warrant required for historical cell site location information.
Carpenter v. United States

See pic for local towers. This may be why they are focusing their searches in this area. 5 Towers (2 Registered,3 Not Registered) found within 4.00 miles of Perkins Ln, Lancaster, KY 40444.
http://www.antennasearch.com/sitestart.asp

 

[rsd1200]

So true. None of us are immune to being a victim, nor are we immune to a family member committing a crime. No one can predict who will do what, when.
Lexington is a wealthy area, businesses, thoroughbred farms & civic groups usually step up to offer help. Not much in the way of assistance offered. But, if a crime did occur, we don’t know where it took place, plus S is not a local to Lexington. It’s realyy disturbing (to me) to hear inconsiderate, unkind comments. Moo

I think if this took place in Richmond, where she lived, it would have possibly been different. Different headlines too, maybe; Local Mom & Former EKU Student Missing After Night Out With Friends. People I know think it is all just very sad, but most everyone says the same; That poor girl is no longer with us. I think that they will have to find her to determine what, exactly, happened, and whether those boys were responsible. If they'd found anything significant in that vehicle, I believe they'd have at least brought the vehicle owner in.

 

[Hoosier952]

Why would LE want the public to know one man said SS left the house in the morning?

I found that interesting as well. Is there more than one story coming from the three? Or did only one supposedly see or hear her leave? Seems odd that only one would would be telling that story. If they were all involved in some way, I'd expect 3 perfectly coordinating stories. Only one telling LE she left makes me think she did actually leave and/or that only one of them is responsible for her being missing.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

I found that interesting as well. Is there more than one story coming from the three? Or did only one supposedly see or hear her leave? Seems odd that only one would would be telling that story. If they were all involved in some way, I'd expect 3 perfectly coordinating stories. Only one telling LE she left makes me think she did actually leave and/or that only one of them is responsible for her being missing.

We also have to realize that because LE has released info from one man's statement it doesn't mean the other two's stories don't match. Or they may have left earlier and there wouldn't be anything to corroborate. One of the men had a truck at the house and he and/or the other could have left. All of this is assuming they actually made it to the house in the first place. Were the parents home when 4 people came to their house early morning?

 

[mtnlites]

New article out this morning...

Police release new details about Savannah Spurlock's disappearance


Local talk is mostly split threeways between the people who think she's dead and that the men she left with know more than what they're saying, judgment about her being a mom and out on the town, and those around here who apparently think that because of the three missing local women (Amanda Bailey, Brookelyn Farthing, and Savannah) that we have a serial killer running amok. I agree with the first one. It's not a stretch to think that the last people she was seen with know something important. I do NOT think we have a "serial killer" killing these women. Each one of these ladies disappeared under circumstances specific to their lives. In all three cases, it's fairly easy to draw the line from who saw them last to what may have happened. I guess that's not as exciting, though, as calling out "human trafficking" or "serial killer."

I agree with @rsd1200 comment up above. If this case had been approached from a different angle, it would've gotten more media attention.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Something that bothers me. Where is her phone?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why would LE want the public to know one man said SS left the house in the morning?

Probably hoping someone will call in a tip that says they know it isn't true.

LE specifically put out that particular part of what they were told for a reason while not releasing all.

So since she supposedly left alive someone most likely would have seen her afterwards at some point IF true which I don't believe the investigators believe for one second.

Imo

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Something that bothers me. Where is her phone?

Jumping off my post and remembering the dogs the FBI brought in that could sniff out electronics, inclusive of a cell phone for JC's case. Can they request a dog to find her phone? That skill is not common among SAR dogs but can they request one? This also makes me wonder if LE attained warrants for the phones of the 3 men. Morning ramble before tea.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

In just about every case I've followed where someone was missing a search warrant was always obtained on the last home the victim was last known to be.

That seems to meet the probable cause burden which is a much lower threshold for judges.

LE has every right to believe a crime could have possibly happened inside of this home based on all of the circumstances surrounding Savannah's disappearance.

I really can't remember any case where search warrants weren't obtained under these set of circumstances when the last location of her whereabouts became known to the police.

Imo

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

New article out this morning...

Police release new details about Savannah Spurlock's disappearance


Local talk is mostly split threeways between the people who think she's dead and that the men she left with know more than what they're saying, judgment about her being a mom and out on the town, and those around here who apparently think that because of the three missing local women (Amanda Bailey, Brookelyn Farthing, and Savannah) that we have a serial killer running amok. I agree with the first one. It's not a stretch to think that the last people she was seen with know something important. I do NOT think we have a "serial killer" killing these women. Each one of these ladies disappeared under circumstances specific to their lives. In all three cases, it's fairly easy to draw the line from who saw them last to what may have happened. I guess that's not as exciting, though, as calling out "human trafficking" or "serial killer."

I agree with @rsd1200 comment up above. If this case had been approached from a different angle, it would've gotten more media attention.

The media attention is partly driven by public attention. It's always hard to keep media attention going when little is coming out but it can change by people showing they are interested and want more coverage. I mentioned a friend that is a local investigative news reporter. She confirmed that it's public interest that drives the news and the more news the more pressure on LE and those involved. It's a shame people aren't sending tweets or messages to the new stations. This girl is 22 and has a future that could put those that judge her to shame. You would especially think if people thought there was a serial killer involved they would be speaking out. Sorry. Just frustrated (which I don't). JMO

 

[mtnlites]

The media attention is partly driven by public attention. It's always hard to keep media attention going when little is coming out but it can change by people showing they are interested and want more coverage. I mentioned a friend that is a local investigative news reporter. She confirmed that it's public interest that drives the news and the more news the more pressure on LE and those involved. It's a shame people aren't sending tweets or messages to the new stations. This girl is 22 and has a future that could put those that judge her to shame. You would especially think if people thought there was a serial killer involved they would be speaking out. Sorry. Just frustrated (which I don't). JMO

I am about as local as you get and have a fairly big social media following on one particular platform. More than 20,000 followers and the majority of them are local. When I post about her disappearance on there, I get one of two reactions: people either haven't heard about the story or they want to victim blame. It's a cycle. I have no particular answers, nor am I blaming the media. Just reporting back with what I am seeing here in town. I will say, though, that when local news channels post the articles about her on FB, those articles get just many comments and shares as articles about any other story. I've noticed no discernible lack of interest, just not that many updates.

 

[bwt42]

Probably hoping someone will call in a tip that says they know it isn't true.

LE specifically put out that particular part of what they were told for a reason while not releasing all.

So since she supposedly left alive someone most likely would have seen her afterwards at some point IF true which I don't believe the investigators believe for one second.

Imo

So, if no one calls in saying that they have seen her, that's proof she never left the house?

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

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Interesting article!

Some info conflicts with earlier info. It seems she does not know any of the people she left with. She's in the backseat, and then the front seat? I wonder if the testing, they aren't releasing, showed she was both in the front and the back, a slip up, or reporting error? It also kinda sounds like her mother is the one who called SS, too. If the phone was on, then it would ping off of the nearest tower, until it was turned off. If she had her gps on, that would help narrow it down a lot. They probably could have gotten the phone's general location pretty quickly. (see link)

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Interesting article on cell phone info and using gps and cell tower info.
Cell Phone Analysis, Part 2 | Hendon Publishing

No warrant required for historical cell site location information.
Carpenter v. United States

See pic for local towers. This may be why they are focusing their searches in this area. 5 Towers (2 Registered,3 Not Registered) found within 4.00 miles of Perkins Ln, Lancaster, KY 40444.
http://www.antennasearch.com/sitestart.asp

Good info! TY
Every article I have read SS's mother states she called SS

Your link on cellphones was very interesting and good to keep as a reference.

Concerning Carpenter VS US: "the initial ruling that a warrant wasn't required to attain historical data was taken to the Supreme Court: In a major statement on privacy in the digital age, the Supreme Court ruled on Friday that the government generally needs a warrant to collect troves of location data about the customers of cellphone companies." There are gray areas that allow a search without warrant:
"The decision made exceptions for emergencies like bomb threats and child abductions. “Such exigencies,” he wrote, “include the need to pursue a fleeing suspect, protect individuals who are threatened with imminent harm or prevent the imminent destruction of evidence.”
In Ruling on Cellphone Location Data, Supreme Court Makes Statement on Digital Privacy

 

[BaileyC]

They are saying now the last place Savannah was seen was at a rural home. Most likely all three men and Savannah were intoxicated. Three intoxicated men and one female equals sex on the men's mind.

Savannah had just given birth to twins about six weeks earlier. If sex occurred could she have stated hemorrhaging? She could have been raped and bled to death. They hid the body. Raped and fled, died somewhere from health issues after fleeing. I'm thinking there is a big possibility the birth of the twins may play a part in her being missing and most likely not alive.