Ireland Kyran Durnin, 8, Drogheda, 28th August 2024

Part of the reason we create those institutions in society is because we know not all parents are fit. It would be a much more perfect world if they were.

There's no one excusing his mom or grandma in this. But cases like this can highlight weaknesses in these institutions that need to be addressed to help protect children.

Just IMO, but unless there's malfeasance or extreme negligence by individuals or institutions, I don't see any benefit to blaming them individually. Doesn't fix much and usually it's a problem that needs solving on a higher level than what one person or institution missed. In this case, I can see two changes possible that it may highlight the need for:

1. Having some sort of centralized repository of reports when children cease attending schools so that we know when they stop attending, any reason given and someone can follow up to try to conform their enrollment elsewhere.

2. More funding for social work agencies and a policy of taking updated pictures of children who make contact with them to be kept in the family's file so they can be properly identified on visits.
Obviously I am well aware of the need for these agencies having worked in education. My bugbear is throwing the blame for trying to do the best job they can in sometimes terrible and hopeless circumstances.
My local authority always have many social workers vacancies in double figures. This is a well paid career but unsurprisingly many may not apply for this very reason. Quite apart from workload, stress trauma and environment
 
Police searching Hand Street, Drogheda this week. I wonder will granny's garden be a grave?
They are searching Rhonda's garden only as her house and jeep were already done and they are doing the empty abandoned house and garden after that (warrant received Monday) after them they go to gibbos dad's in beechwood & then after this , the land at the back banks of rathmullen please pray some thing of substantial significance is found in terms of evidence as I personally believe he isn't buried as dun eimear would have been the location (imo) I think he went into a bin be it household one or industrial bin and I firmly believe he's gone to the landfill and no evidence will be found, are system is really outdated or higher ups are so incompetent and no resources, unlike America, unfortunately even with alot of circumstantial evidence our DPP will not pass it for trial. No body no case and I sadly believe this is that I hope I'm wrong but with all the shocks of tusla, 2 years gone and now letting Dayla stay in the UK and alot more safe tactics to keep her close or get her talking I think this is another shock that I am prepared for at this rate .
 
They are searching Rhonda's garden only as her house and jeep were already done and they are doing the empty abandoned house and garden after that (warrant received Monday) after them they go to gibbos dad's in beechwood & then after this , the land at the back banks of rathmullen please pray some thing of substantial significance is found in terms of evidence as I personally believe he isn't buried as dun eimear would have been the location (imo) I think he went into a bin be it household one or industrial bin and I firmly believe he's gone to the landfill and no evidence will be found, are system is really outdated or higher ups are so incompetent and no resources, unlike America, unfortunately even with alot of circumstantial evidence our DPP will not pass it for trial. No body no case and I sadly believe this is that I hope I'm wrong but with all the shocks of tusla, 2 years gone and now letting Dayla stay in the UK and alot more safe tactics to keep her close or get her talking I think this is another shock that I am prepared for at this rate .
Thank you Eimear. Words fail me after what you've said. God bless.
 
They are searching Rhonda's garden only as her house and jeep were already done and they are doing the empty abandoned house and garden after that (warrant received Monday) after them they go to gibbos dad's in beechwood & then after this , the land at the back banks of rathmullen please pray some thing of substantial significance is found in terms of evidence as I personally believe he isn't buried as dun eimear would have been the location (imo) I think he went into a bin be it household one or industrial bin and I firmly believe he's gone to the landfill and no evidence will be found, are system is really outdated or higher ups are so incompetent and no resources, unlike America, unfortunately even with alot of circumstantial evidence our DPP will not pass it for trial. No body no case and I sadly believe this is that I hope I'm wrong but with all the shocks of tusla, 2 years gone and now letting Dayla stay in the UK and alot more safe tactics to keep her close or get her talking I think this is another shock that I am prepared for at this rate .
Hi Eimear, thanks for the information. I've been looking at msm articles on this case since September and lurking on the Facebook page NS . It is an extremely strange case .
Grandmother reporting dayla and kyran missing from 28th of August Is obviously a lie if dayla has been allegedly claiming she doesn't know what happened the young lad . Why has Rhonda not been formally arrested for misleading an investigation?

Do you think dayla is hiding him with a distant relative or friend because of father allegedly gaining/fighting custody??

I just don't understand what evidence police have to say kyran is dead other than a tip of by a relative sure for all anyone knows this person could be in cahoots with dayla and her mother to throw police off the scent .
Prehaps whomever may possibly is concealing the child if he is alive is doing so off the grid, for example homeschooling ,not claiming benefits ,minimization of social contacts etc .

Is gibbo the violent ex boyfriend or kyrans father ? How can dayla claim to not know where her child is unless she wasn't in contact with him before he was taken from school ? Do you know if this is the case?

Often when we see photos of a child in a case like this .there is signs of mistreatment or neglect. I don't see that in images of kyran . He looks healthy ,happy ,well nourished , clean ,well dressed and bright eyed ,able bodied with toys appropriate for his age etc . Was he in the Foster care system ?
 
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A bit more information.

Thank you .
My own thoughts on the case given the statements released on msm by gardai (irish police) and psni ( Northern Ireland police )

I feel kyran was not in the custody of dayla but she had visitation/ access rights and prehaps he was in the care of either the grandmother or grandfather ( parents of dayla) or another friend or relative or partner of either grandparent and something happened accidentally or purposely and for whatever reason two or more people covered it up and didn't inform dayla her son was dead until the 28th of August and this is why she fled to England. Whomever gave the police the tip off may have been confided in but weren't given the location.

Another thought of mine was wondering if the statement given by police stating a violent male suspect could it be daylas brother if she has one ??

The whole thing just has everyone that reads about it confused as how can a family not know what happened to a six year old .or at the very least his last known contact with his mother
 

I'm under the impression kyran was not under the guardianship of his mother and prehaps in the care of another
 

I'm under the impression kyran was not under the guardianship of his mother and prehaps in the care of another
If Mum is in fear for her safety why on earth would her current location be disclosed.
This case is no clearer to me than from day 1 I wonder if we will ever know this poor boys fate.
 

I'm under the impression kyran was not under the guardianship of his mother and prehaps in the care of another
How would that work though when he was said to be with his mother staying at his grandmothers the night before they went away?
 
How would that work though when he was said to be with his mother staying at his grandmothers the night before they went away?
It's a really strange missing child presumed dead case @UK Girl . Either grandmother is lying or the mum is lying
When I said I presume kyran wasn't in his mother's care . It was more of a question than a statement I'm flummoxed

I just can't get my head around it at all and was hoping some of the posters on WS might have had more information.
Even the appeal by the irish police was strange . One would wonder why they think kyran is dead and why is it not being stated whose care he was in .
On one hand msm reports are saying he was in the grandmothers on 28th of August and then saying he was most likely dead before that date

Can you make heads or tails of it or shed some light on the case ?
 

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