Kyron Horman Discussion Thread 2020 - 2022 - #2

[ilovewings]

I love the DA's "with fresh eyes" comment cuz often times that's what it takes. Fresh eyes.

Love it!

fresh eyes is exactly what this case needs---

 

[Izzylizzy]

Hopefully a someone took a witness statement thats in a box unprocessed and just waiting for a professional reviewer to find and make a case with.

The make of the truck .
RH's truck comes to mind.

 

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[Chimera]

If they're putting fresh eyes on the case, it may also be time to re-interview all the students who were there that day. They're all adults now and can be interviewed without parents present. Not sure if they've done this recently, but if they haven't, I think it may be worth interviewing folks who were there again. Just some food for thought.

ITA !

 

[arielilane]

June 1st at 7:00pm, we will be having a candle light vigil at Skyline Elementary, to honor Kyron. We hope to see the community come and support our mission to find him and bring him home.
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[cocomod]

Oh Kyron!!! He is one of the biggest reasons I joined WS. He holds a special little piece and place in my heart. I hate the fact that we "know" part of what happened, but not the whole picture. I hate the fact that even though we basically "know", there has been no justice. Worse, where is Kyron?!

 

[Boxer]

Oh Kyron!!! He is one of the biggest reasons I joined WS. He holds a special little piece and place in my heart. I hate the fact that we "know" part of what happened, but not the whole picture. I hate the fact that even though we basically "know", there has been no justice. Worse, where is Kyron?!

Exactly. I only started paying attention to WS because there was discussion of Kyron.
And hopefully there is another more successful phase of this investigation.

 

[arielilane]

PORTLAND, Ore. — It's been 15 years since anyone has seen Kyron Horman, a little boy who vanished from Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland on June 4th, 2010.

Kyron Horman case revisited 15 years after disappearance from Portland elementary school

It's been 15 years since anyone has seen Kyron Horman, a little boy who vanished from Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland on June 4th, 2010.

katu.com

5/8/2025

KATU News has reached out to Vazquez (formerly Horman) - who now lives in California - via her attorney, Stephen Houze. He declined to comment on the case ahead of the 15th anniversary of Kyron's disappearance.

 

[minazoe]

there is nothing more lonely than a child who is suffering from mental and emotional abuse. A child who is gaslighted and punished, locked in their room after school and overhearing lies told about their behavior...there is nothing more lonely than this poor kid. Terri should be put away for this alone.

 

[Knox]

PORTLAND, Ore. — It's been 15 years since anyone has seen Kyron Horman, a little boy who vanished from Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland on June 4th, 2010.

Kyron Horman case revisited 15 years after disappearance from Portland elementary school

It's been 15 years since anyone has seen Kyron Horman, a little boy who vanished from Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland on June 4th, 2010.

katu.com

5/8/2025

KATU News has reached out to Vazquez (formerly Horman) - who now lives in California - via her attorney, Stephen Houze. He declined to comment on the case ahead of the 15th anniversary of Kyron's disappearance.

Houze is still representing her?

 

[mjm076]

I know this sounds awful, but I somewhat hope he's dead and that he died the same day he disappeared. The reason I say this is that the alternative might be this poor little guy being abused and tortured by a sexual predator somewhere!

Unless his step-mother is keeping him hidden with her somewhere...

 

[Diddian]

I was not a Websleuths member back when Kyron went missing and only loosely followed the story in news reports. I started going through the threads about this case but only got through thread #4 before skipping ahead to the threads covering 2020-2022. So, please forgive me if I’m asking a question covered already.

I noticed in the divorce settlement that Terri got the Mustang and Kaine the 2005 pickup as well as “the John Deere tractor.” It doesn’t specify tractor size or capability.

Was that tractor capable of excavating? And then refilling? Was Terri capable of operating it? And if not her, was the friend who was missing during the same hours Terri was capable of operating it? Did the Hormans have a trailer for transporting the tractor? (ETA: was the tractor sophisticated enough to have telematics?)

I remember Terri saying she hired a landscaper on the sly because she believed Kaine wanted too much yard work out of her older son who ultimately moved to live with her parents. What kind of extensive clearing or other yard work was being done? Did LE search the Horman property?…not just a ground search, but a search for areas recently dug?

 

[Knox]

I was not a Websleuths member back when Kyron went missing and only loosely followed the story in news reports. I started going through the threads about this case but only got through thread #4 before skipping ahead to the threads covering 2020-2022. So, please forgive me if I’m asking a question covered already.

I noticed in the divorce settlement that Terri got the Mustang and Kaine the 2005 pickup as well as “the John Deere tractor.” It doesn’t specify tractor size or capability.

Was that tractor capable of excavating? And then refilling? Was Terri capable of operating it? And if not her, was the friend who was missing during the same hours Terri was capable of operating it? Did the Hormans have a trailer for transporting the tractor?

I remember Terri saying she hired a landscaper on the sly because she believed Kaine wanted too much yard work out of her older son who ultimately moved to live with her parents. What kind of extensive clearing or other yard work was being done? Did LE search the Horman property?…not just a ground search, but a search for areas recently dug?

In my opinion, Kyron was handled off to someone right after he was taken from the school. There is zero chance he is on the property previously owned by Kaine. That tractor wasn’t used in conjunction with Kyron’s disappearance. All MOO.

 

[Diddian]

In my opinion, Kyron was handled off to someone right after he was taken from the school. There is zero chance he is on the property previously owned by Kaine. That tractor wasn’t used in conjunction with Kyron’s disappearance. All MOO.

That is definitely a possibility; however, then why does TMH need DDS's help for an hour and a half or so later that morning?

I'm thinking she needed DDS's help to drive the white Ford pickup around with TMH's daughter in car seat and TMH's phone inside the truck so that if the truck telematics or TMH's phone were checked, they would both indicate that the truck was driving around the roads between Hwy 30 and the Horman home and the truck and phone were NOT at the Horman property (or nearby) where TMH may have been using the tractor to bury Kyron's remains. That would explain why TMH can't reasonably answer exactly what roads she drove on... because it wasn't TMH who was driving or even inside the truck at that time.

So, under my theory, TMH established her primary alibi (KH at the Science Fair, TMH seen with her daughter but without Kyron) from around 9 until roughly 10 or 10:30 am, then at some point TMH picked up DDS (who left her own phone in her car at the farm where she was supposedly working) and DDS dropped TMH at the Horman property and took off with TMH's daughter in car seat in back, driving the roads around the area (likely with a burner phone on hand, TMH also having one on hand) to give TMH a somewhat reliable alibi away from the Horman property until TMH was done and called DDS to pick her up.

Then TMH and DDS may have drove around together, OR TMH and DDS traded places and TMH went to the gym while DDS remained at Horman property to move brush around to conceal the burial spot until TMH picked her up and dropped her back off at the farm before going to the gym. Thus TMH is "covered" for alibi for the entirety of the morning, even though DDS is exposed during the period she was missing from the farm she was supposedly working. After dropping DDS back off at the farm or perhaps when the two were driving around together "solidifying" their story, TMH drove the truck somewhere nearby and chucked the two burner phones into the woods, down a ravine, into a waterway, or whatever.

 

[minazoe]

You would be surprised to realize that abusers vindictively wait for their chances...waiting for a child to come home from school in order to punish...the child often doesn't even remember the infraction..or understand it. So for me it isn't a far reach for me to see Terri planning to harm Kyron
and killing him based on her known behavior it just fits that he goes to school and then he is punished. I bet he thought he was going to the doctor too. His disappearance was no accident.
and now when you see the scope of who Terri actually is, it's very hard to understand how she has not been arrested. When you look at it from the basic ABC's , the family members are first in line
of investigation. Here we have a stepmother who was with the victim when he went missing and she checks all the boxes. she just does. mOO

 

[Diddian]

Does anyone know if LE ever searched the property that was Kyron's home before he disappeared?

I am so far only midway through Thread #7, but in Thread #6, a post dated June 9, 2010 (and several posts subsequent to that one) indicated that at a LE press conference, when asked whether a search warrant had been issued for the property or a search had been conducted, the sheriff said that no search warrant had been issued and, "They have not searched the family's property."

Did they EVER search it? And if so, what was the extent of that search?

 

[minazoe]

I didn't recall a search or dig, but come on...you have to search the home don't you? I'm trying to remember...I think a search was initiated from the point where he was last seen, at the school. it never occurred to me they didn't look under every rock for Kyron...literally every rock.I think it must be a challenge in Portland because it is so verdant, things just grow overnight and over everything.
it's not just a tightly packed forested place but it's quite literally a jungle. other areas push out into huge spans of lakes and darkly lit and lightly populated towns ( used to be anyway).
The logging areas wind up and down and it's all very precarious to navigate, not the straight paths of the mid west. It's very beautiful but there is a negative energy there...the ocean is overwhelming
and the mountains and waterfalls are life changing experiences, yet I think because it is a port town
it has that transient feeling there.

a small childs body in the open wouldn't last long in all the rain and wildlife. it would quickly be consumed. Birds would circle and out there they know to follow the birds to find death. It could very well be that Terri knows this and buried the child somewhere...it's not far fetched. I can see that scenario.

But here's my question, why would DDS help her? why? is she another sociopath? why would anyone get involved in something so heinous? was she promised money? I still hang on. this scenario because I'm trying to see how she gets help with this murder. mOO

 

[Alleykins]

I'm fairly certain investigators searched the home, according to this timeline posted on the MCSO site. Of course, a lot of the original news articles are no longer, so I can't cite how extensive the search at the home was, or if they scoured the surrounding woods. I recall they did, but I'm going from memory.

 

[Diddian]

I'm fairly certain investigators searched the home, according to this timeline posted on the MCSO site. Of course, a lot of the original news articles are no longer, so I can't cite how extensive the search at the home was, or if they scoured the surrounding woods. I recall they did, but I'm going from memory.

Thank you for your reply and the link to the timeline at MCSO site as well as relating what you recall.

I've been reading Rebecca Morris's book, Boy Missing: The Search for Kyron Horman, which seems fairly well-researched. The book states that the Horman place was searched multiple times, including with dogs.

 

[minazoe]

Thank you for your reply and the link to the timeline at MCSO site as well as relating what you recall.

I've been reading Rebecca Morris's book, Boy Missing: The Search for Kyron Horman, which seems fairly well-researched. The book states that the Horman place was searched multiple times, including with dogs.

Yes, I read this book a long time ago, I also remember seeing photos inside the house, Kyrons room etc. thanks for the memory jog!