Kyron Horman Discussion Thread 2020 - 2022 - #2

[Diddian]

Post in thread 'Kyron Horman Discussion Thread 2017-2019'
Kyron Horman Discussion Thread 2017-2019

Hoping this link works. There is so much information which has been discussed the past fifteen years.

Thank you for the link. I am slowly working my way through past threads, but am only part way through Kyron Horman, Part #11 so far. (I've jumped around a bit on the "topical" threads relating to Kyron, but not much yet.)

In the link you provided, it appears that poster similarly wondered about the story TMH must have given Kaine for why she did not pick up Kyron and his SF project as originally planned. But beyond the question, no answer is provided. And the poster doesn't address how Kyron would have been informed about the change in plans so that he'd ride the bus instead of expect TMH to pick him up.

I'll keep reading...seems there is much question raising, but few answers. And also much conflicting information, whether that is because of faulty reporting or a particular party's distant relation to the truth.

 

[Knox]

Thank you for the link. I am slowly working my way through past threads, but am only part way through Kyron Horman, Part #11 so far. (I've jumped around a bit on the "topical" threads relating to Kyron, but not much yet.)

In the link you provided, it appears that poster similarly wondered about the story TMH must have given Kaine for why she did not pick up Kyron and his SF project as originally planned. But beyond the question, no answer is provided. And the poster doesn't address how Kyron would have been informed about the change in plans so that he'd ride the bus instead of expect TMH to pick him up.

I'll keep reading...seems there is much question raising, but few answers. And also much conflicting information, whether that is because of faulty reporting or a particular party's distant relation to the truth.

Read the qoted post TP is replying too.

Terri drove the truck on June 3rd to drop off the project and again on June 4th to pick it up. I don’t think she ever said she was bringing Kyron home that day. It was about getting the project home. The murkiness and confusion IMO was intentional on Terri’s part.

Much like the confusion about Kyron’s doctor appointment. That was also intentional and prevented the teacher from being concerned about Kyron’s absence that day and the fact his backpack and coat were still in the classroom, JMO.

 

[Boxer]

Thank you for the link. I am slowly working my way through past threads, but am only part way through Kyron Horman, Part #11 so far. (I've jumped around a bit on the "topical" threads relating to Kyron, but not much yet.)

In the link you provided, it appears that poster similarly wondered about the story TMH must have given Kaine for why she did not pick up Kyron and his SF project as originally planned. But beyond the question, no answer is provided. And the poster doesn't address how Kyron would have been informed about the change in plans so that he'd ride the bus instead of expect TMH to pick him up.

I'll keep reading...seems there is much question raising, but few answers. And also much conflicting information, whether that is because of faulty reporting or a particular party's distant relation to the truth.

This os a huge question. Where she parked is not a factor in my opinion, it looks like normal parking.
But if he was expecting to be picked up and not take the bus, it is a very big deal- he would refuse the bus and wait, unless she contacted the office for him to take the bus.

School busses leave very quickly after the grades they are transporting's last bell, kids that end up missing busses end up in the office waiting for the next bus with a call to parents or for the for parents to come pick up.

 

[Diddian]

FBI will dedicate up to 6 agents to help investigate the Kyron Horman disappearance

Agents from the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit based in Quantico, Virginia, came to Portland when Kyron first was reported missing, and two returned to spend several days with Kyron Horman investigative team in late January and early this month.

www.oregonlive.com

My point is - the FBI BAU has been involved in this case since the beginning and intermittently. I can find other links with mentions later when I have more time.

Bottom line, this is all beneficial for Kyron, Desiree & Kaine.

I have often wished the FBI’s BAU used their expertise to get enough inside the head of the perpetrators to accurately (or as close to accurately as possible) predict WHERE those perpetrators would be likely to place the bodies of their victims. Too often, those sociopaths get off on their success at hiding the bodies, while the victim’s loved ones suffer in agony at not knowing. The concealment is a crime that continues to inflict new pain.

I wish it in the case of Jennifer Dulos and I wish it in this case.

 

[wvmoonangel]

I have been watching True crime podcasts of the disappearance of Kyron and so far my main question is what happened to him after the pic was taken with his science project. She took his project to school on Thursday then took him to school on Friday took the pic and was never seen again. Kyron was counted absent that day,the day he disappeared. She had Cains truck parked below the school yard fence line on a dirt road.Why? Why did she wash his backpack and jacket less than 12 hours of him missing?

 

[Bipolar Express]

I have been watching True crime podcasts of the disappearance of Kyron and so far my main question is what happened to him after the pic was taken with his science project. She took his project to school on Thursday then took him to school on Friday took the pic and was never seen again. Kyron was counted absent that day,the day he disappeared. She had Cains truck parked below the school yard fence line on a dirt road.Why? Why did she wash his backpack and jacket less than 12 hours of him missing?

Supposedly she walked him to his class or half way to his class…its very concerning that she washed his back pack and jacket. Huge red flag, IMO

 

[Boxer]

I have been watching True crime podcasts of the disappearance of Kyron and so far my main question is what happened to him after the pic was taken with his science project. She took his project to school on Thursday then took him to school on Friday took the pic and was never seen again. Kyron was counted absent that day,the day he disappeared. She had Cains truck parked below the school yard fence line on a dirt road.Why? Why did she wash his backpack and jacket less than 12 hours of him missing?

Still, I cannot imagine a worse idea for abducting a child than leaving a school with them without someone noticing. At the minimum other kids are around and unpredictable.

 

[sunshineray]

Still, I cannot imagine a worse idea for abducting a child than leaving a school with them without someone noticing. At the minimum other kids are around and unpredictable.

A little boy, so young, so trusting. Possibly, I'll go get the car honey, meet me over there? Idk, I just find a some of her actions extremely suspicious and unexplained. JMO I'm glad they're looking at the case again with better tech, the new and the old.

 

[wvmoonangel]

A little boy, so young, so trusting. Possibly, I'll go get the car honey, meet me over there? Idk, I just find a some of her actions extremely suspicious and unexplained. JMO I'm glad they're looking at the case again with better tech, the new and the old.

I just finished up a podcast from a true crime source and in that podcast there is a clip of an interview that was done with all 4 parents and only bio mom,bio dad and stepdad showed genuine emotions as where stepmoms was forced and faked. In another clip of an interview bio dad states that he believes stepmom played a part into Kyron's disappearance,in that podcast they state that 4 people had given statements that they had seen her walk out of the school with Kyron. The podcast I'm watching at the moment shows everywhere she supposedly went that day. Along those routes she took there is so many service roads and trails she could have easily placed him in. She had quickly gotten a lawyer and still today refuses to answer questions or take a polygraph test.
This is the true crime podcasts I'm watching. They are very interesting and telling.

 

[Boxer]

A little boy, so young, so trusting. Possibly, I'll go get the car honey, meet me over there? Idk, I just find a some of her actions extremely suspicious and unexplained. JMO I'm glad they're looking at the case again with better tech, the new and the old.

Agree. It would have been easy enough to have him go back to the car, but so many or potential for witnesses. I guess she could have driven around to see if the office was going to call from the teachers attendance absence without a parent call in to explain.
Even if a teacher "knew" he was absent for a reason, being absent should have been recorded and submitted, the office them removes the absence with the legit excuse.

Anyway, though easy enough to get him back to the truck, it doesn't cover that there was views from windows, doorways, random kids, parents arriving and leaving etc.
Doesn't mean someone wouldn't take a chance, just puts a real risky element to it.

 

[Knox]

Agree. It would have been easy enough to have him go back to the car, but so many or potential for witnesses. I guess she could have driven around to see if the office was going to call from the teachers attendance absence without a parent call in to explain.
Even if a teacher "knew" he was absent for a reason, being absent should have been recorded and submitted, the office them removes the absence with the legit excuse.

Anyway, though easy enough to get him back to the truck, it doesn't cover that there was views from windows, doorways, random kids, parents arriving and leaving etc.
Doesn't mean someone wouldn't take a chance, just puts a real risky element to it.

The absence was recorded and submitted. She took roll at 10:00 AM that morning.

IIRC, the truck was not parked in front of the school. It was on the side of the school in an odd area.

 

[Boxer]

The absence was recorded and submitted. She took roll at 10:00 AM that morning.

IIRC, the truck was not parked in front of the school. It was on the side of the school in an odd area.

Thanks. True.
Do you happen to know would the way to walk to and from the truck which was on the road or side ramp be to go up the main drive way to the front entrance?

 

[Knox]

Kyron investigators focus on movements of white pickup

Investigators asked for the public's help in providing more details about several reported sightings of the Horman family's pickup truck the day Kyron disappeared, including sightings at two Fred Meyer stores.

www.kgw.com

 

[sunshineray]

Thanks. True.
Do you happen to know would the way to walk to and from the truck which was on the road or side ramp be to go up the main drive way to the front entrance?

Where did Kyron's classmate see him by? Was it that front door?

 

[Bethlamb16]

Curious about when the abduction could have occurred. I need to go back and refresh my memory. I remember she Terri she watched him walk towards his classroom?

Was he walking to another floor? Was it only steps away on the same floor?

Hi Knox. My recollection is that she says she watched him walk down the hall. She was at or near the top of the stairs.

 

[minazoe]

Terri has established herself as very cunning and sneaky. I never knew she washed his BP and jacket , I'm sad that she had that opportunity to destroy possible evidence,

This woman subtly involved the teacher in her crime by lying about the doctor appointment , she manipulated the teacher into providing ammunition for her punishments of Kyron by demanding reports for every possible kind of infraction. She wanted a daily report so she could show her husband why Kyron was locked in his room all night while she drank and partied on the phone and whatever...she had some kind of obsession with Kyron's teacher who still had a license to teach children, unlike Terri.

this woman clearly hated this child. there, I said it. mOO

 

[Gemmie]

Hi Knox. My recollection is that she says she watched him walk down the hall. She was at or near the top of the stairs.

That is correct. From an almost 15 yr old article:

Kyron Horman's stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, last saw him walking down a hallway toward his second grade classroom at about 8:45 a.m.

Kyron Horman Missing

7-Year-Old Vanished After School Science Fair

www.cbsnews.com

 

[dulcinea]

That sweet smile
7 yrs old
2nd grade
Heading into summer
He'd be 22 now (correct?).

 

[gitana1]

Still, I cannot imagine a worse idea for abducting a child than leaving a school with them without someone noticing. At the minimum other kids are around and unpredictable.

See to me, its perfect. Busy parents rushing to grab their kids, ids running all around. These scenarios are how kids get lost frequently. Because there is too much going on to notice. Especially if it is not something unexpected. I think people would be more likely to notice if it was a stranger, or someone they had not seen picking up Kyron.

That being said, I have a feeling at least one of the kids saw Kyron leaving with Terri that day.

I thrilled to hear the FBI is working the case again. I believe Terri got away with murder. I’m glad she lost her daughter but it is not enough.

 

[Boxer]

Given Delphi all original evidence and interviews need a complete review.