Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions....

[gwenabob]

I honestly don't know the answer. Anyone else?

If you are referring to TH, she got a ticket for burning lawn refuse--leaves probably--in her backyard which is illegal in Portland.

 

[eyes4crime]

He and J are NOT close. They have not seen each other in years. And his parents paid for Terri's education. Right before she dumped their son and hit him up for child support.

I know Terri's parents helped the couple buy a home, but I wasn't aware that Eckers' parents paid for Terri's education. do you have a link please?

J was born in 1994 and adopted in 1998, are you sure they haven't had contact in all these years? J is his son - Ecker doesn't seem angry at all about paying for the upkeep of his son - why do you put it in terms of ''dumping' Eker and 'hitting' him up for money.

Relationships end, that's a fact. People are responsible for their children - that's fact. Are you suggesting the Terri carefully planned the adoption of her son so she could get money? I'm lost.

 

[wondering1]

LOL... W1. Have you seen how horrible I am at articulating my point!! Not a chance. :blushing:

haha...I like W1 I will em her. "My friend Jade wants to know wth you didn't quote the part about Terri being hysterical because she thinks you are seriously guilty of biased reporting against Terri...oh yeah, Kaine cried in quotes, but when it comes to Terri, her hysteria is just the tag end to the sentence about KH's pain. And it's not even clear that it's her who was hysterical. Jade wants to see "terri was hysterical" in quotes lololol. Perfect. :blowkiss:

 

[eyes4crime]

Really? Why not? Would you say a woman wouldn't hold a good job like that without a man in her life?

Single parents hold "jobs like that" without a significant other all over this country.

Women do it all the time, I know I did. I don't think Kaine is the kind of man who does both....I have no evidence of it..If you evidence that he ever did, please share. TIA

 

[Jade2010]

haha...I like W1 I will em her. "My friend Jade wants to know wth you didn't quote the part about Terri being hysterical because she thinks you are seriously guilty of biased reporting against Terri...oh yeah, Kaine cried in quotes, but when it comes to Terri, her hysteria is just the tag end to the sentence about KH's pain. And it's not even clear that it's her who was hysterical. Jade wants to see "terri was hysterical" in quotes lololol. Perfect. :blowkiss:

Ahhh maybe we should get someone else who can articulate it better. LOL

 

[eyes4crime]

Really? Why not? Would you say a woman wouldn't hold a good job like that without a man in her life?

Single parents hold "jobs like that" without a significant other all over this country.

To be honest, I don't know of a single parent anywhere who can navigate a career, home, kids, and life in general without some kind of support and/or help. Maybe people are different in Oregon, but where I come from, it's hard to be at work all day when small ones are running around the home. Not everyone can afford daycare. Many women don't work because of the dilemma. Is your thinking that everyone can or should afford day care? TIA

 

[SmoothOperator]

You get the appointment with the specialist when you can. He was not in danger, it was a suggestion by his regular doctor, not a diagnosis, a referral.

Also, the learning to sign language, my daughter and I had our own special language for times of distress that no one else knew. Just us, we still use it as endearing.

I respectfully disagree with the first part of your post( and do find find the second portion poignant and having special meaning for you all)

We have no idea whatsoever about if, when, why, or where a dr appt was even made for Kyron. Except for whel




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[BeanE]

for the record...the author has confirmed in an e-mail to me that it was TH who J said was hysterical. Not that ya'll doubted it. Hmmm....

Thank you so much for taking the time to confirm that it was Terri he was talking about, and for letting us know about it, wondering.

 

[eyes4crime]

Richard Ecker said he paid for her education, which remains a sore point for his parents.

Wasn't Richard the husband? Not the father-in-law?

I'm sorry to hear he and J are no longer close.

The quote sounds like the husband paid for Terri's education - they refer to hubby as Chuck so I don't know for sure who Richard is. Confusing once again! moo

 

[gwenabob]

Alas the article we knew was coming. Sigh.

Wonder why they keep printing this stuff. Nothing bad here, just the way it is presented, as usual. Kaine's money, all husbands say that, even very, very wealthy ones. (I have to hear about it every day.) Bookshelf moved, probably a small one, but needed to be moved to clean behind or arrange some things. Sub teaching moved stuff, threw something out, probably threw out worthless stuff, maybe even old snack bars, old scrap paper. Teen J went away b/c he ultimately wanted to, didn't want to be there during the stress and fussing. A few off the cuff comments, probably said in the heat of whatever moment was going on. Keep moving folks, nothing to see here.

Just sigh.

Doesn't matter if the books were voluminous or valuable. They didn't belong to Terri and Terri left them in the rain to be ruined. Shows extreme selfishness.

Doesn't matter if the teaching materials were valuable or not. They did not belong to Terri. She had no business disposing of them. Period. Shows extreme self-centeredness and selfishness.

I think these little tidbits are very important and they show a pattern of behavior on Terri's part. It shows that Terri only cared about Terri.

 

[BeanE]

Why wasn't what he said about his mother (Terri) quotable? I don't get it. The story was about Terri, not Kaine. Kaine's response gets put in quotes but his mom's (the suspected kidnapper/whatever) doesn't and it's an article about her? :waitasec:

ETA: From article: "I've never seen Kaine cry until Kyron went missing," J said, adding that his mother was hysterical.

Me: Oh and by the way J also said his mom was hysterical. WHATTT

Interesting, isn't it?

 

[nurseratchett]

Interesting. Not that way where I live. I believe it's 30 % for the first child, and then I don't know how the percentages go.

Perhaps you are thinking of custody. If it's 50/50, nobody pays.

But otherwise, it's strictly percentage of income.

I can affirm that support is indeed based on percentage of time child spends with you. My grandson lives with me in Washington, his dad lives in Oregon. He spends every weekend with dad, and several vacations/holidays.
In the support paperwork that determines monetary amount to be paid, it is divided by the amount of time spent in each household, so if 10% is spent in non custodial home, then 10% of the standard support order is subtracted from the non custodial parent paying support.
Same goes for my son who pays support to a child living in Oregon, even though he works here.

 

[BeanE]

Who is they? Not Kaine. Not Desiree. Not Tony. Funny how the ONLY person aware of this supposed condition is Terri. Funny how she is the ONLY person aware of the suspected "autism." (according to today's article.) Sounds to me like she was pulling stuff out of her hiney as a cya move. And then she couldn't even decide which ailment he was supposedly afflicted with.

So again, who is "they?" AFAIK, he was never diagnosed by a professional. Just Terri's do-it-yourself childhood brain issue diagnosis kit.

I missed the autism reference. I just checked the Oregonian piece and didn't see it. Could you tell me which article it's in please?

Thanks!

 

[nurseratchett]

Why wasn't what he said about his mother (Terri) quotable? I don't get it. The story was about Terri, not Kaine. Kaine's response gets put in quotes but his mom's (the suspected kidnapper/whatever) doesn't and it's an article about her? :waitasec:

ETA: From article: "I've never seen Kaine cry until Kyron went missing," J said, adding that his mother was hysterical.

Me: Oh and by the way James also said his mom was hysterical. WHATTT

It's because the writer is initially stating a direct quote from the speaker, naming him, and in the second part, the writer is addending the /adding to the sentence. It's simply the rules of grammar, not a personal thing with the writer.
An English teacher could explain much better.

 

[eyes4crime]

for the record...the author has confirmed in an e-mail to me that it was TH who J said was hysterical. Not that ya'll doubted it. Hmmm....

Thanks for taking the time to E-mail that question. I appreciate the effort.

 

[gwenabob]

Hmmm...


*And the comment about the boat...what money was he planning on using for that? Was it part of the settlement from Chubby's or the car accident that Terri had said she'd save for Jxxxx to use for college? That would rub me the wrong way too. A BOAT?? Please. Another thing where we are not getting the whole story. If this is the worst stuff ex-in-laws can come up with, then I hope LE has other options. They sounded so ungrateful when it seemed like Terri was trying to do nice things. Makes me love my wonderful MIL even more!

Read the story again. It was not her husband who was buying the boat. It was her husband's father. Why in the world would it be Terri's business how her father in law spends his money? That is what's so insulting. That she fully expected her in-laws to give all their money to this boy they were not even related to! That speaks volumes.

 

[Jade2010]

The quote sounds like the husband paid for Terri's education - they refer to hubby as Chuck so I don't know for sure who Richard is. Confusing once again! moo

FYI

Horman went to school, earning a bachelor's degree in elementary education at Northwest Christian University. Chuck Ecker, a high school teacher, encouraged his daughter-in-law to become a teacher.

It's not clear who her birth mother is — the agency and the state of California will not release that — but Horman once told her second husband, Richard Ecker that her parents said she came from a prominent family.

Richard Ecker said he paid for her education, which remains a sore point for his parents.

 

[Emma Peel]

thanks for writing.. I was going to!
That was driving me nuts for no reason.

What? You can't trust me by now? :dance:

 

[Jade2010]

Read the story again. It was not her husband who was buying the boat. It was her husband's father. Why in the world would it be Terri's business how her father in law spends his money? That is what's so insulting. That she fully expected her in-laws to give all their money to this boy they were not even related to! That speaks volumes.

I think it's possible that when J was adopted by Richard it was a big thing before and after. That there was a lot of conversation about you are now my son, these are your grandparents, we are your grandparents, maybe even talk about everything would go to you (J), etc., in bonding ways... and Terri said that in ways that they had bonded, in a fun way.

 

[gwenabob]

The author of the article (Lynne Terry) is the same person that wrote the article about her interview with Terri's mother (CM) and reported what CM told her as fact.

Lynne Terry is also a member of the Terri's support page on Facebook.

She appears unbiased in the new article, but one must wonder what all she is leaving out, and or smoothing over.

She also said on that facebook page that she is considering writing a book about it.