Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions....

[For The Kids]

Women do it all the time, I know I did. I don't think Kaine is the kind of man who does both....I have no evidence of it..If you evidence that he ever did, please share. TIA

He is working now apparently and has no woman in his life...

 

[Calliope]

IMO, regarding the below statement, I took it as Kyron's mom was hysterical.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html

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"I've never seen Kaine cry until Kyron went missing," J said, adding that his mother was hysterical.

I disagree. The article was on Terri; if he'd been talking about Desiree, it would have said so.

 

[Calliope]

Ask Helen Keller.

Ok, that was good.

Really good.

 

[BeanE]

Yes. I am suggesting she transferred "ownership" of her son to the man with the most $. Plain and simple.

BBM. Children are not chattel. Adoption is not human trafficking. Dear God.

 

[For The Kids]

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BBM
If the in-laws were against the adoption, that's their business. Their son loves J and has stated such! To be honest, I find it alarming and DISTASTEFUL that adoption is being talked about in such a pejorative manner. MOO MHO

I am adopted and am not at all offended by anything anyone has put on here in that respect. I AM offended by what Terri said about the inheritance thing though cause i think it makes her look totally money grabbing.

 

[For The Kids]

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BBM
If the in-laws were against the adoption, that's their business. Their son loves J and has stated such! To be honest, I find it alarming and DISTASTEFUL that adoption is being talked about in such a pejorative manner. MOO MHO

I am adopted and am not at all offended by anything anyone has put on here in that respect. I AM offended by what Terri said about the inheritance thing though cause i think it makes her look totally money grabbing. I personally think she married Ecker for m onetary reasons which again is what i find alarming.

 

[BeanE]

Desiree works tho and do we know she didnt pay maintenance?

Im not sure its the same thing at all. JMO

I haven't seen anything about whether Desiree pays child support. It's unfair to assume she doesn't. The same as it's unfair to assume, with no indication that it's so, that Terri - or any parent - uses child support for themselves or any purpose other than the child's needs.

 

[Calliope]

Ah, I'm only up to page 14 and my eyes are starting to glaze over lol.

Just bringing this forward once more for puf; if you answered in the last 9 pages or so, forgive me because I missed it. Just let me know and I'll search it out. Thanks.

BTW, puf ...

I was thinking about starting a thread along these lines, but I wasn't sure where to take it. I'm glad you did, thanks.

Reckless and selfish. Have you seen her arrest record? Her marital history? Her dragging her son from bad marriage to bad marriage and changing his name along the way?

Not wanting to change the direction of this thread, and trying to stay on topic... but she's been arrested for much more than one DUI and burning leaves in her yard.

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Now that we have something with such detail about her past, could you clarify and source what you said here (bolded above)? I noticed the article didn't state any other arrests but the one for DUI. TIA.

And just so you know why I asked, and that it's ok to answer:

FWIW, I asked grandmaj about starting a thread regarding Terri's past, specifically wanting to ask you to clarify and source this information you posted. She said that was fine, and asked me something to the effect of finding another thread where it would fit but if not, it was ok to start a thread. I'm not much for call-out threads, so I figured I'd try to find one where it does fit. Since this article deals with her life and past, and it does bring up her arrest history for the DUI --- but no mention of other arrests --- I feel it fits well here and you could therefore clarify your claim that she was arrested for much more than the DUI. Arrest history is certainly more relevant to this case than what her MIL has to say about bouquets or her ex-roommate says about bookshelves left in the rain.

Thanks.

 

[Calliope]

Yet look where the baby is now. Not with Terri. And Terri isn't fighting for her, either. Indeed, she wants to give Kaine his divorce, but bifurcate the child custody case from the divorce case, which means it could be two years before she is allowed to see the baby again. Why? Why do that? She hasn't been charged with a crime yet. Her chances of at least winning visitation with the baby are good right now, if she'd go to court and settle the divorce and child custody case now instead of bifurcating and abating.

Why? Does she not want to be deposed on the record in the divorce case? That's inevitable. She'll have to be deposed sometime, whether it's now or two years from now. What on earth could she not want to discuss in a deposition? What on earth could she not wish to be revealed in discovery?

Why would two years from now make it better for her than now? Two years without the daughter that she loves so much.

She's not the only one in this family who allowed her children to go away and didn't fight for custody. It was Desiree's business then, and it's Terri's business now.

 

[For The Kids]

There is another article saying her first husband used meth, do you think keeping a baby around a meth user is healthy? I give her credit for getting her baby out of that situation.

The information that daddy #1 changed years later is great for everybody. IMO keeping a baby in a meth environment is child abuse. MOO MHO and an oink.

Would that be like the Hiv she claimed he had that he miraculously recovered from? I dont think Tarver is so bad..he at least is looking after his son...unlike the mother who sent him away

JMO

 

[For The Kids]

His parents sure do a lot of speaking for their grown adult son = maybe we should talk about enmeshed boundaries here. They sound like horrible people. Questions the gesture of flowers, poems, their son adopting a boy, his marriage, their son's education...how old was he???????moo

How about Terris mother talking for her? When she claimed that Kyron would probably be scared of cops...even though his step father was one and Kyron wanted to be one when he got older. Her father has said things also...so how old is Terri cause it works both ways to be honest.

Or is it only wrong for someone to give a interview if they say negative things about Terri?

 

[Calliope]

These concepts are archaic, ignorant, and damaging to children.

If he hasn't seen his son (and adoption means J IS his son), then he has no one to blame but himself. Period.

 

[BeanE]

I disagree. The article was on Terri; if he'd been talking about Desiree, it would have said so.

wondering1 posted last night. She emailed the reporter, and the reporter confirmed that J was talking about Terri, not Desiree.

 

[BeanE]

Would that be like the Hiv she claimed he had that he miraculously recovered from? I dont think Tarver is so bad..he at least is looking after his son...unlike the mother who sent him away

Terri didn't claim he miraculously recovered from HIV. She wrote that *he* claimed he miraculously recovered from "AIDS positive".

In 1998 she filed a restraining order against her first husband citing his drug use saying:"No parenting time due to use of meth, use of needles, was AIDS positive, then said he's negative now."


http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/national/12001604928232/

 

[For The Kids]

This is so true. You can write anything you want in an application for a RO. It's simply hearsay until proven. Thanks for pointing that out.

True..but if someone just put whatever they want in a RO it would be up to the other person to prove its BS. IF the other person isnt willing to do that even when its about her minor child...then people will think what they will.

JMO

 

[PaulaF513]

Yet look where the baby is now. Not with Terri. And Terri isn't fighting for her, either. Indeed, she wants to give Kaine his divorce, but bifurcate the child custody case from the divorce case, which means it could be two years before she is allowed to see the baby again. Why? Why do that? She hasn't been charged with a crime yet. Her chances of at least winning visitation with the baby are good right now, if she'd go to court and settle the divorce and child custody case now instead of bifurcating and abating.

Why? Does she not want to be deposed on the record in the divorce case? That's inevitable. She'll have to be deposed sometime, whether it's now or two years from now. What on earth could she not want to discuss in a deposition? What on earth could she not wish to be revealed in discovery?

Why would two years from now make it better for her than now? Two years without the daughter that she loves so much.

It's reasonable to assume that she is operating under legal guidance. As the matter now stands, her chances of winning any custody issue are about as good as a snowball's in hell.

 

[For The Kids]

Terri didn't claim he miraculously recovered from HIV. She wrote that *he* claimed he miraculously recovered from "AIDS positive".

In 1998 she filed a restraining order against her first husband citing his drug use saying:"No parenting time due to use of meth, use of needles, was AIDS positive, then said he's negative now."


http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/national/12001604928232/

Actually...that just makes me think Terri lied about it all...but thanks

 

[stmarysmead]

IMO, there is something morally repugnant about a woman who takes years of child support from a man who is neither her son's father nor an active participant in her son's life....while she is supported comfortably by another man.

Terri Horman does not work. She lives a comfortable life. Yet her values are such that she feels justified in accepting this man's money every month for years. Two men, neither of whom are this boy's father, support him...not her. Not HER!

In taking that money, I believe it is incumbent UPON HER to facilitate a relationship between her son and the man who monthly pays for part of his support...while SHE is supported by another man.

I'm not surprised her former in-laws are bitter. To assume that ALL responsibility for maintaining a relationship with the child falls on this stepfather...assumes that Terri can just keep taking his money with no moral responsibility except to cash the check.

What a negative example she has set for her child!

Terri married and fathered a child with a "Meth-user" by her own description. She left him to marry a man who had been her friend. This man paid for her education and adopted her child. Sounds pretty decent to me.

But, once again, in order to give Terri every benefit of the doubt, one must assume HE is the culprit.

So-o-o-o, first husband is a Meth user; second, a physical (but not FINANCIAL deserter of her son); Kaine is cheap and controlling; the Landscaper/Hit Man a Liar; the Sexting Partner just a "form of release"; only Terri is a sympathetic, wonderful figure in this case....

The police focus on Terri indicates, at the least, that she cannot have been completely absolved of any responsibility in this case. The decision of the police to share information with Kaine...that essentially broke up a marriage...certainly cannot have been a cavalier, reckless unsubstantiated bit of police gossip, or can it?

This is a woman who writes "Okay, I love you" to her husband a few days before she starts "sexting" a friend of his. This is a woman who lets her second husband educate her and adopt her child, then, with no contact, takes his money every month while she sits home supported by her THIRD husband...or drives around in her sports car for hours, or goes body-building, with no attempt to provide any support for that child HERSELF.

Yes, certainly, she is a woman of strange contradictions.

 

[Calliope]

I think lots of in-laws take everything a daughter-in-law says the way they want to take it. She may have even been baiting them a bit.

Yeah. I can't imagine that she didn't pick up on their obvious dislike for her.

They sound like the types who feel no one is good enough for their baby.

Been there, done that. Glad to have rid myself of it.

 

[Calliope]

IMO, there is something morally repugnant about a woman who takes years of child support from a man who is neither her son's father nor an active participant in her son's life....while she is supported comfortably by another man.

Respectfully snipped

It was his choice not to be involved in HIS son's life. How she is supported is of no consequence. The money is for support of the child.