LA - ***ARREST*** Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #34

[Unscripted]

Excellent first post and food for thought, SLBG.
RE: but I'm wondering if any of this could affect the actual case at all?
'Imo, forums such as websleuths can be a valuable resource for the prosecution, as well as the defense, to insure that fair and impartial Justice is served. Especially when many locals participate in the discussions..
Due to the awareness these forums create and the many questions raised, the MS media are forced to ask LE the hard questions which lead to more questions and answers. This process also insures a thorough and complete investigation for the innocent victim and their family..imo
'Interesting read on cameras in the courtroom from 1986'.. Twenty years later with Court TV & live stream capabilities, many trials are now televised in high profile cases. Imo, from past cases in other states, there is usually live stream allowed, although the Judge has the final say.jmo
United States Court of Appeals,
Fifth Circuit.
March 31, 1986.
http://openjurist.org/785/f2d/1293/united-states-v-w-edwards
Given the Supreme Court's indication that the First Amendment right of access to criminal trials does not extend to include a right to broadcast such trials.. Read more

BBM

And LE does monitor sleuth-based discussion boards including WS for leads etc. (just in case everyone thinks their efforts here are in vain).

In the February, 2004 disappearance of Maura Murray from North Haverhill, New Hampshire the NHSP includes copies of WS forum conversations in their case file: http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2012/02/records-show-scope-of-police.html

Ongoing discussion of this 8-year-old unsolved mystery here: [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8137284"]NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #9 - Page 4 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame] (or ask resident expert OldSteve for an update )

 

[Foxfire]

Hmm, what if bsl started working on the skirting around his house to justify these cuts and bruises. In other words, if he sustained injury during the abduction a little remodeling would certainly 'cover' his fresh cuts and bruises. If neighbors saw him working out there they would be potential witnesses for the defense.

This of course makes me ill but he spends a lot of time attempting to stay ahead of LE and covering his tracks.

'Confusing Editor's note, IMO'...
Surprised that hairdresser Bourriague, didn't ask him how he was injuried..or that he offered the info, to prevent reinjury of the wound during the haircut..

Obviously Bourriague, wasn't aware of Brandon Scott Lavergne's status as a tier 3 RSO or she may have put the pieces of the puzzle together while cutting his hair.
She would surely have been traumatized by this experience, even more so than she is now..

Crowley hairdresser: Lavergne had ‘knife’ wound on neck

http://www.theind.com/news/10922-crowley-hairdresser-lavergne-had-knife-wound-on-neck

* [Editor's Note: This story has been altered to reflect that Bourriague says she is uncertain what type of cut was on Lavergne's neck, saying only that it could have been made by a knife.]

 

[Mrs. B]

I posted earlier the same situation. I really think this is how it went down too. Had a fight with the GF and her family and he was looking for some love.

I'm not sure what you mean "looking for some love" sometimes the meaning of a statement in text can be misunderstood. That said, I have to point out that IMO these predators are not looking for "some love" and love has nothing to do with unwanted advances. I think this person was looking for a victim. These crimes are not being committed by men who are just lonely or had a fight with their gf/wife. Too many people still equate rape with lust, rape is a violent assault of a sexual nature. :twocents:

 

[SLBG]

Excellent first post and food for thought, SLBG.

RE: but I'm wondering if any of this could affect the actual case at all?

'Imo, forums such as websleuths can be a valuable resource for the prosecution, as well as the defense, to insure that fair and impartial Justice is served. Especially when many locals participate in the discussions..

Due to the awareness these forums create and the many questions raised, the MS media are forced to ask LE the hard questions which lead to more questions and answers. This process also insures a thorough and complete investigation for the innocent victim and their family..imo


'Interesting read on cameras in the courtroom from 1986'.. Twenty years later with Court TV & live stream capabilities, many trials are now televised in high profile cases. Imo, from past cases in other states, there is usually live stream allowed, although the Judge has the final say.jmo

United States Court of Appeals,
Fifth Circuit.

March 31, 1986.

http://openjurist.org/785/f2d/1293/united-states-v-w-edwards

Given the Supreme Court's indication that the First Amendment right of access to criminal trials does not extend to include a right to broadcast such trials..
Read more

Thanks... My husband and I ran into a colleague of his thats a well-respected criminal defense attorney here and I asked him the same thing. From his POV the main concern is with jury selection, change of venue and possible thrown out evidence. He didn't get to elaborate much, and my husband doesn't do criminal law so he wasn't much help Just wanted to get another take on it.

Y'all definitely challenge people to open their minds to different possibilities. IMO Hopefully a few members of the LE check in on this site every now and then to get fresh views and ideas.

I'm sure many people around here would've loved for that case to have been televised back then!! ha!

I have mixed emotions on the heavy media coverage of these high profile cases. I can't help but wonder if the jurors felt sorry for Casey Anthony bc she was so vilified before she was even brought to trial and if that had any bearing on their decision. And I have read on here where people have considered BSL as "charming". Vomit. Let's just hope the evidence is hard enough to nail him WITHOUT any sympathies.

 

[cluciano63]

I think that after the domestic assault charges, which were not pursued I guess, and the sexual assault, which was, he decided he would stick to assaulting women who did not know him, since the ones who did tended to report him. He felt safer in grabbing strangers off the street, rather than risk going to prison by beating up girlfriends, etc...

 

[Excalibur Jay]

'Confusing Editor's note, IMO'...
Surprised that hairdresser Bourriague, didn't ask him how he was injuried..or that he offered the info, to prevent reinjury of the wound during the haircut..

Obviously Bourriague, wasn't aware of Brandon Scott Lavergne's status as a tier 3 RSO or she may have put the pieces of the puzzle together while cutting his hair.
She would surely have been traumatized by this experience, even more so than she is now..

Crowley hairdresser: Lavergne had ‘knife’ wound on neck

http://www.theind.com/news/10922-crowley-hairdresser-lavergne-had-knife-wound-on-neck

* [Editor's Note: This story has been altered to reflect that Bourriague says she is uncertain what type of cut was on Lavergne's neck, saying only that it could have been made by a knife.]

4 weeks after Mickeys disappearance -- BSL got a Haircut on June 20th to which a neck wound was observed.

With my friendly inquisitive mind, I certainly would have said 'ohhhh what happened to you'. :what:

Continued Prayers for Mickey :angel: and her family.

 

[Cajun Girl]

I think that after the domestic assault charges, which were not pursed I guess, and the sexual assault, which was, he decided he would stick to assaulting women who did not know him, since the ones who did tended to report him. He felt safer in grabbing strangers off the street, rather than risk going to prison by beating up girlfriends, etc...

I wanted to thank you for you post but it truly brought tears to my eyes. And sadly yes, I believe you are correct. To type that makes me sick.

 

[SLBG]

IMO...

And he probably got some "advise" about victim selection from other SO inmates during his 8 yr. prison stay. He may have smartened up a little bit but not enough! Didn't I read somewhere on here that he counseled other SO's while in prison??? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me... Sounds like a good opportunity for sickos to swap stories and learn from other inmates mistakes.

 

[LafayetteMom]

'Confusing Editor's note, IMO'...
Surprised that hairdresser Bourriague, didn't ask him how he was injuried..or that he offered the info, to prevent reinjury of the wound during the haircut..

Obviously Bourriague, wasn't aware of Brandon Scott Lavergne's status as a tier 3 RSO or she may have put the pieces of the puzzle together while cutting his hair.
She would surely have been traumatized by this experience, even more so than she is now..

Crowley hairdresser: Lavergne had ‘knife’ wound on neck

http://www.theind.com/news/10922-crowley-hairdresser-lavergne-had-knife-wound-on-neck

* [Editor's Note: This story has been altered to reflect that Bourriague says she is uncertain what type of cut was on Lavergne's neck, saying only that it could have been made by a knife.]

She may have asked him, like "Oh wow, what happened?" and he just told her something. If she'd been contacted by LE prior to this interview, they may have told her not to disclose that info. But, it seems like if LE had contact with her, this article may not even exist b/c they may have just told her to keep the whole thing hush hush. But, obviously there were other employees and customers in the salon when she found out so they probably got some immediate scoop.

On the other hand, she may not have asked him. Hairdressers have to get really close to people. They see lots of "stuff" and don't always ask about it. I'm sure they sometimes talk to one another about it after the customer leaves! But IMO if that customer is asking you on a date, you'd be more inclined to engage in chit chat and find out what that big noticeable scar is from.

 

[Foxfire]

Thanks... My husband and I ran into a colleague of his thats a well-respected criminal defense attorney here and I asked him the same thing. From his POV the main concern is with jury selection, change of venue and possible thrown out evidence. He didn't get to elaborate much, and my husband doesn't do criminal law so he wasn't much help Just wanted to get another take on it.

Y'all definitely challenge people to open their minds to different possibilities. IMO Hopefully a few members of the LE check in on this site every now and then to get fresh views and ideas.

I'm sure many people around here would've loved for that case to have been televised back then!! ha!

I have mixed emotions on the heavy media coverage of these high profile cases. I can't help but wonder if the jurors felt sorry for Casey Anthony bc she was so vilified before she was even brought to trial and if that had any bearing on their decision. And I have read on here where people have considered BSL as "charming". Vomit. Let's just hope the evidence is hard enough to nail him WITHOUT any sympathies.

SLBG, yes, Casey Anthony is a perfect example of a tremendous amount of pretrial publicity. Tried in the court of public opinion, yet she was found not guilty. There was only a partial change of venue in the Casey Anthony trial.

They brought the clueless jurors in from another county, yet held trial in the county where the crime occured. By clueless I mean they said that the jurors said that there was very little media coverage where they lived. A few said that they didn't have internet, cell, or cable tv access..

We have had this discussion before. SLBG, the next time you are at a gathering/party, ask who is aware of the Mickey Schunick abduction. All you will get is strange looks, crossed eyes, change of subject, or silence.
Most folks can't even tell ya who the VP of the US is..LOL

"Imo, the change of venue is simply a Cop out to justify the antiquated strategy of silence by LE & prosecutors".. Although motions for change of venues are routinely filed by defense attorneys. They are seldom granted.

A change of venue was not granted for Dexter Todd Lee; the most prolific serial killer in recent Louisiana history.. Doubtful that Brandon Scott Lavergne, will be granted one..
Don't take my word for it research it...

 

[NewYork625]

4 weeks after Mickeys disappearance -- BSL got a Haircut on June 20th to which a neck wound was observed.

With my friendly inquisitive mind, I certainly would have said 'ohhhh what happened to you'. :what:

Continued Prayers for Mickey :angel: and her family.

The wound was mostly healed (scar formation), and as a woman she may have felt it rude to ask about something that was disfiguring. JMO

 

[SLBG]

Or maybe she didn't really want to know. From reading her story, it sounds like she was pretty enthralled by him. And maybe didn't want to ruin it by asking a question that she may not really wanna know the answer to.

Not sure what he does (how he woos them, makes them blind with love/lust for him) to these women, but I can't imagine being dumb/desperate enough to make a life (date/plan to marry) with a man who I know served almost a decade in prison for sexual assault. (referring to his most recent girlfriend whose BIL saved her life)

 

[fairest of them all]

She may have asked him, like "Oh wow, what happened?" and he just told her something. If she'd been contacted by LE prior to this interview, they may have told her not to disclose that info. But, it seems like if LE had contact with her, this article may not even exist b/c they may have just told her to keep the whole thing hush hush. But, obviously there were other employees and customers in the salon when she found out so they probably got some immediate scoop.

On the other hand, she may not have asked him. Hairdressers have to get really close to people. They see lots of "stuff" and don't always ask about it. I'm sure they sometimes talk to one another about it after the customer leaves! But IMO if that customer is asking you on a date, you'd be more inclined to engage in chit chat and find out what that big noticeable scar is from.

Yes unless they are IMO shocked as all get out and giddy that someone gave them the slightest bit of attention that they forgot to think all together.......imo

 

[NewYork625]

Or maybe she didn't really want to know. From reading her story, it sounds like she was pretty enthralled by him. And maybe didn't want to ruin it by asking a question that she may not really wanna know the answer to.

Not sure what he does to these women, but I can't imagine being dumb/desperate enough to make a life with a man who I know served almost a decade in prison for sexual assault. (referring to his most recent girlfriend whose BIL saved her life)

I don't believe she knew about his record. Maybe she thought it was a knife wound, but also thought that he had been the victim.

 

[Ya-Ma-N-DEM]

Hmm, what if bsl started working on the skirting around his house to justify these cuts and bruises. In other words, if he sustained injury during the abduction a little remodeling would certainly 'cover' his fresh cuts and bruises. If neighbors saw him working out there they would be potential witnesses for the defense.

This of course makes me ill but he spends a lot of time attempting to stay ahead of LE and covering his tracks.

Could be to cover up any visible injuries he may have- "oh yeah I got cut up replacing the skirting on my house" but if the trailer has only been there about a year, Why would anything need to be replaced already?

 

[wfgodot]

Hello Ya-Ma-N-DEM, and welcome to WS.

 

[NewYork625]

Could be to cover up any visible injuries he may have- "oh yeah I got cut up replacing the skirting on my house" but if the trailer has only been there about a year, Why would anything need to be replaced already?

It's a rumor, and I don't know if it's true, but I read that some people are saying he was explaining the cuts and bruises by saying he was beaten up on Bourbon St.

 

[Foxfire]

She may have asked him, like "Oh wow, what happened?" and he just told her something. If she'd been contacted by LE prior to this interview, they may have told her not to disclose that info. But, it seems like if LE had contact with her, this article may not even exist b/c they may have just told her to keep the whole thing hush hush. But, obviously there were other employees and customers in the salon when she found out so they probably got some immediate scoop.

On the other hand, she may not have asked him. Hairdressers have to get really close to people. They see lots of "stuff" and don't always ask about it. I'm sure they sometimes talk to one another about it after the customer leaves! But IMO if that customer is asking you on a date, you'd be more inclined to engage in chit chat and find out what that big noticeable scar is from.

IMO, the wound on the back of his neck was a defensive wound caused by the fingernail/s of his victim..

 

[MamaRoux]

wow, that link shows his investigation report for the sexual abuse charge.

Yeah, but even after zooming, it's still so hard to read.

 

[Ya-Ma-N-DEM]

It's a rumor, and I don't know if it's true, but I read that some people are saying he was explaining the cuts and bruises by saying he was beaten up on Bourbon St.

I hope it is true because if that's the excuse/explanation he tries to use in court there are cameras every couple of feet on Bourbon Street so that could easily be proven/debunked.