GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #3

[melwltrs58]

New information: (bolding and italics are mine and to make these statements stand out)

"A surveillance or security video shows murder victim Jaren Lockhart with Margaret Sanchez and Terry Speaks in Mississippi at a point in time after a video showed the three of them leaving a Bourbon Street strip club together, according to the Hancock County Sheriff's Office."

http://www.wwltv.com/news/Two-in-custody-now-named-suspects-in-death-of-Bourbon-Street-dancer-158990875.html

I just saw on WDSU Channel 6 News, the Hancock Co. Sheriff Office says, at this time, this might just be a rumour, but they are checking the video surveillance at businesses along the coast.

 

[stormsurge]

Ive been reading here for the last week but just got approved today.

:seeya:

I do financial crimes investigations (not as LE) and a couple things here I wanted to add (and some that have already been covered)

1) Service industry in the Quarter. If you havent figured it out by now from memoryfoam and others, there's two degrees of separation between everyone who's worked in the Quarter for more than 6 months. Very close group. I know several people well who knew JL and knew it was MAS as soon as the video was posted.

2) TS's criminal background. After reading the article on how he got his RSO status and seeing what else he's been charged with, he comes across as, to coin a phrase, a ' criminal'. He has the misdemeanor assault charge, but mostly its property crimes of opportunity. He doesnt have the 'violent psycho' background. The kind of guy you aren't scared of, but you wouldnt leave him near your valuables unattended. He doesn't seem to be the 'kill her on purpose, chop her up and feed her to the fish' kind of guy. The people on the board who have met him, let me know if this does or doesnt fit your impression of him.

3) He does seem like the kind of guy who would be way more concerned about his own butt as a fugitive than he would be about coming forward with information about JL. Think "I cant bring her back by going to prison, so screw her". As far as I can tell, their activities since 'the incident' are entirely consistent with fleeing because he's a fugitive and knows he was seen with her.

4) The bail amount. That goes both ways.

a) They didnt raise it above the minimum, which suggests that neither the interviews or the warrant gave them anything of value.

b) They got information that the 'incident' happened in MS. There is probably cause, but nothing in LA to increase her bail amount -here-. She isnt going anywhere, so leave nothing that can be appealed.

c) They only get one shot at a prosecution and if they dont win, they go free. They arent going to charge with murder unless they have a good shot at winning. They can charge them when the evidence is available.

5) If they were seen together in MS, that changes a whole lot of stuff.

I'm fairly confident (better than 80%) that they know what happened to JL. I'm much less confident (less than 50%) that they were the direct cause of it.

And wow is this board efficient. Dayum.....

 

[missgulfsouth]

Would a Mississippi local please post a list of Bay St. Louis/Hancock County local news websites? Thanks in advance.

WLOX - very good reporting here!
Sea Coast Echo - newspaper
Sun Herald - newspaper

 

[glezell]

I really think she left with the promise of something.... don't know what don't know that it matters. I think when they approached her they did not do it with murder in mind. May have done it with the idea of stiffing her on their end of the bargain, but I really don't think when they walked down bourbon they were looking for someone to kill. Once they left there things got out of hand and something happened that caused them to kill her. Then, being on drugs or just being out of their mind decided it best to cut her up and dispose of her.

I wonder if any evidence could survive in the ocean about if TCS had sex with her prior to dismembering her. Also someone mentioned about possibly restraining her. I don't know if they would be able to tell since hands/feet haven't been found??

 

[Annie1004]

Been at work and trying to catch up here. Question do we know how long TS had been in the area before Jaren walked out of the club? I mean had he been in that area for months or what?

I have read anywhere from two years to six months to a couple of months, depending on what news report and also according to her neighbors.

 

[rhapsdy]

I just saw on WDSU Channel 6 News, the Hancock Co. Sheriff Office says, at this time, this might just be a rumour, but they are checking the video surveillance at businesses along the coast.

Interesting - it was def reported as fact in that article I linked too. Of course, the news these days seems to be fluid and an article can get changed multiple times after posting (which is SO frustrating!). I do hope that if this is true so that they can nail them if they did indeed carry this out.

 

[pufnstuf]

Thinking.....where in MS would there be video cameras? Wow. They could have been here in BSL! We are just 1 hr east of NOLA, then another 20 min to Gulfport, another 10 to Boloxi. Casinos, Walmart? I wish I could see that video! Has it been posted here yet?

It hasn't been released yet.

Cameras are everywhere now... convenience stores, retail stores, restaurants, and certainly casinos. Really no way to guess.

Like you, I am anxiously awaiting more news about this video.

 

[KateB]

Below is the timeline that I compiled a couple days ago.. I've added a couple other details as I only have just a few mins available to check in.. later this evening when time allows I will attempt to further flesh out this timeline as well.. anyone please feel free to add/edit to either of the timelines

This is great but I think you're looking at the wrong calendar. Double check your numbers to the days of the week, they're off. Sat was june 9, etc. Thanks for doing this.

 

[berberry08]

Ive been reading here for the last week but just got approved today.

:seeya:

I do financial crimes investigations (not as LE) and a couple things here I wanted to add (and some that have already been covered)

1) Service industry in the Quarter. If you havent figured it out by now from memoryfoam and others, there's two degrees of separation between everyone who's worked in the Quarter for more than 6 months. Very close group. I know several people well who knew JL and knew it was MAS as soon as the video was posted.

2) TS's criminal background. After reading the article on how he got his RSO status and seeing what else he's been charged with, he comes across as, to coin a phrase, a ' criminal'. He has the misdemeanor assault charge, but mostly its property crimes of opportunity. He doesnt have the 'violent psycho' background. The kind of guy you aren't scared of, but you wouldnt leave him near your valuables unattended. He doesn't seem to be the 'kill her on purpose, chop her up and feed her to the fish' kind of guy. The people on the board who have met him, let me know if this does or doesnt fit your impression of him.

3) He does seem like the kind of guy who would be way more concerned about his own butt as a fugitive than he would be about coming forward with information about JL. Think "I cant bring her back by going to prison, so screw her". As far as I can tell, their activities since 'the incident' are entirely consistent with fleeing because he's a fugitive and knows he was seen with her.

4) The bail amount. That goes both ways.

a) They didnt raise it above the minimum, which suggests that neither the interviews or the warrant gave them anything of value.

b) They got information that the 'incident' happened in MS. There is probably cause, but nothing in LA to increase her bail amount -here-. She isnt going anywhere, so leave nothing that can be appealed.

c) They only get one shot at a prosecution and if they dont win, they go free. They arent going to charge with murder unless they have a good shot at winning. They can charge them when the evidence is available.

5) If they were seen together in MS, that changes a whole lot of stuff.

I'm fairly confident (better than 80%) that they know what happened to JL. I'm much less confident (less than 50%) that they were the direct cause of it.

And wow is this board efficient. Dayum.....

very awesome points, it is my 2nd day on here as well. These people are much better than some LE agencies I know (achmmm Dallas)!!!

 

[SmoothOperator]

Moo but Jaren was definitely killed June 6 at some point.. they've got to find the link to MS between Speaks/Sanchez. Moo is she likely never was at their home in Kenner but rather now it seems there is definitely a locale in MS as to where all of his occurred including murder/dismemberment.. and then disposal all done in MS and then the couple returned back over state lines to LA.. hoping this footage will lead to info that will make this Ms crime scene location known to LE...moo is there just may be someone else with atleast knowledge of this murder and disposal.. jmo

 

[missgulfsouth]

Originally Posted by rhapsdy View Post
Yes - those unsolved murders in your area that are similar to this need to be checked out. This seriously makes me wonder what was their connection to Mississippi? Why there? Why not in the bayous or waters of Louisiana. There has to be some kind of draw for them to go that far.


As far as I know, there haven't been ANY similar murders here! No dismembered bodies have washed up on our beaches.

 

[tiredblondy]

Welcome Stormsurge....

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And to our other new members...

:welcome3:

 

[katydid23]

They're pretty much working for tips.

And I think the amount of money they make has been exaggerated somewhat. I am sure some girls make quite good money. But many don't. They may have a good night or two. But some nights are probably not so great. Jaren's boyfriend had to leave the hotel that morning because he didn't have the 50 bucks to stay the night. So she did not have a stash of $ saved up, imo.

 

[pufnstuf]

Quickly just wanted to make sure you saw what I went back & edited:
Editing to add that my other sis is a bartender at Margaritaville casino in Biloxi -Believe me; word travels faster-than-light in the casinos here - so I would know if they were at a casino & so would you guys.

Yeah, I know... I have a very close friend who's a dealer supervisor at the Isle.

Keep us updated if you hear anything, and I will do the same.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Waiting to hear more on the video from Mississippi. For me, the sighting of them there has put a twist on things. I'm curious to see where they were and if anyone else was with them. I also would like to see what Jarens demeanor was in that video.

If an agreed threesome was the plan, IMO then it would make more sense to just go to Kenner or get a nearby hotel room. I don't know Jaren, but I don't see her getting involved in a threesome with these two.

After the failed attempt to get the other dancer to go with them, they could have used a different approach on Jaren. Since TS had worked as a door man and kind of protector of the girls then she may have trusted him. Especially, if there was no word around the quarter of him ever doing anything bad to any other girls. I would hope that if a male that was a customer or fellow worker ever got out of line, that the girls would warn each other. If it's true that he worked in the quarter as reported for two years (I'd like more clarification on this) then it seems unusual that there wouldn't have been other incidents to some degree of creepiness.

If there was a prearranged party in MS going on, where is the connection to TS or MAS. There is a lot more under the table we still don't know about the associates of MAS it appears.

They needed another woman that night for some reason, more than just their pleasure, unless they so brazenly walked in and picked her up in front of everyone that knew them and set off to murder her.

 

[Isabelle]

New information: (bolding and italics are mine and to make these statements stand out)

"A surveillance or security video shows murder victim Jaren Lockhart with Margaret Sanchez and Terry Speaks in Mississippi at a point in time after a video showed the three of them leaving a Bourbon Street strip club together, according to the Hancock County Sheriff's Office."

http://www.wwltv.com/news/Two-in-custody-now-named-suspects-in-death-of-Bourbon-Street-dancer-158990875.html

OK, MAS bail needs to go up to 1million5!

 

[JurysOut]

New information: (bolding and italics are mine and to make these statements stand out)

"A surveillance or security video shows murder victim Jaren Lockhart with Margaret Sanchez and Terry Speaks in Mississippi at a point in time after a video showed the three of them leaving a Bourbon Street strip club together, according to the Hancock County Sheriff's Office."

http://www.wwltv.com/news/Two-in-cu...death-of-Bourbon-Street-dancer-158990875.html

If there's no evidence in the house, where are the implements used to dismember the victim?

If JL was seen alive in Mississippi at some point in time after she left the club, it's still possible that there's a third or even fourth person involved. Or why not do it in the city?

Even if it wasn't planned, why drive? JL must have believed that whatever she'd been promised was waiting at the end of that drive.

Did they tell her there was a heavy hitter on the hook in Mississippi? Aren't there any girls in Mississipi?

I'm troubled that MAS hasn't given up a lot of info. Maybe she's not as fragile as she appears.

-Where are the tools?
-Why go to MS?
-Why JL, specifically?

She was a beautiful girl, but there must be other beautiful girls between where JL worked and Mississipi.

There's a reason they drove to Mississippi, in my opinion. And there's a reason it was Jaren they took there.

 

[missgulfsouth]

Ive been reading here for the last week but just got approved today.

:seeya:

I do financial crimes investigations (not as LE) and a couple things here I wanted to add (and some that have already been covered)

1) Service industry in the Quarter. If you havent figured it out by now from memoryfoam and others, there's two degrees of separation between everyone who's worked in the Quarter for more than 6 months. Very close group. I know several people well who knew JL and knew it was MAS as soon as the video was posted.

2) TS's criminal background. After reading the article on how he got his RSO status and seeing what else he's been charged with, he comes across as, to coin a phrase, a ' criminal'. He has the misdemeanor assault charge, but mostly its property crimes of opportunity. He doesnt have the 'violent psycho' background. The kind of guy you aren't scared of, but you wouldnt leave him near your valuables unattended. He doesn't seem to be the 'kill her on purpose, chop her up and feed her to the fish' kind of guy. The people on the board who have met him, let me know if this does or doesnt fit your impression of him.

3) He does seem like the kind of guy who would be way more concerned about his own butt as a fugitive than he would be about coming forward with information about JL. Think "I cant bring her back by going to prison, so screw her". As far as I can tell, their activities since 'the incident' are entirely consistent with fleeing because he's a fugitive and knows he was seen with her.

4) The bail amount. That goes both ways.

a) They didnt raise it above the minimum, which suggests that neither the interviews or the warrant gave them anything of value.

b) They got information that the 'incident' happened in MS. There is probably cause, but nothing in LA to increase her bail amount -here-. She isnt going anywhere, so leave nothing that can be appealed.

c) They only get one shot at a prosecution and if they dont win, they go free. They arent going to charge with murder unless they have a good shot at winning. They can charge them when the evidence is available.

5) If they were seen together in MS, that changes a whole lot of stuff.

I'm fairly confident (better than 80%) that they know what happened to JL. I'm much less confident (less than 50%) that they were the direct cause of it.

And wow is this board efficient. Dayum.....

Good insight! I disagree wholeheartedly on the last point, though. Look at MAS mugshot. That is what guilt looks like......at least that's what I would look like if I chopped someone to pieces! I'd be a hot mess, too! (JMO)

OH! And I'd be asking to call my daddy!!!!

 

[stormsurge]

If there's no evidence in the house, where are the implements used to dismember the victim?

If JL was seen alive in Mississippi at some point in time after she left the club, it's still possible that there's a third or even fourth person involved. Or why not do it in the city?

Even if it wasn't planned, why drive? JL must have believed that whatever she'd been promised was waiting at the end of that drive.

Did they tell her there was a heavy hitter on the hook in Mississippi? Aren't there any girls in Mississipi?

I'm troubled that MAS hasn't given up a lot of info. Maybe she's not as fragile as she appears.

-Where are the tools?
-Why go to MS?
-Why JL, specifically?

She was a beautiful girl, but there must be other beautiful girls between where JL worked and Mississipi.

There's a reason they drove to Mississippi, in my opinion. And there's a reason it was Jaren they took there.

This is kinda where I'm at. And I think MAS is the kind to crack like a china doll under interrogation.

 

[Isabelle]

If MAS makes bail and gets out, can MISS LE arrest her and she won't be able to fight extradition? They can't arrest her in Louisiana can they?? Not sure how this works.