GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #5

[SurfieTX]

I have sent an e-mail to Ethan Brown, author of Shake The Devil Off, and
I have not heard back from him. I guess he thinks the e-mails that we are
sending to him are junk or he does not want to be involved. Who knows?

Thanks for the interesting tour of Six Flags New Orleans. It reminds my of the
abandoned amusement park in the ghost town of Pripyat, Ukraine. It was closed
down due to the Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

You're welcome. I sent him an email too, but he hasn't responded.

Have you seen this?

Kiddofspeed - GHOST TOWN - Chernobyl Pictures -
Elena's Motorcyle Ride through Chernobyl

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

"

May I ask why the pier and picture of Jaren with her daughter is important? I mean, what might that have to do with her case?
Don't a lot of people from the two areas go to places in the other area for recreational purposes?

Could Jaren have simply taken her daughter to the beach? Is there another beach area that she more logically would/should have gone too?
Are peeps trying to connect her to a specific person/people there?[/QUOTE"

Her remains were found in several different locations across the MS Gulf Coast between Bay St. Louis and Long Beach. If the pier in the picture(s) with her daughter, which look recent based on the age of both, is the one in Long Beach then her head was located just west of where the pic was taken.

It could be just a bizarre coincidence that she was recently there with her family or it could place Jaren in MS on several occasions with close acquaintances who could also be linked to the FQ club scene before her murder. The missing puzzle piece is the one that connects MAS and TS to the MS coast for some reason other than just being an easy place to get to for a day at the beach- JMO.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Ok, bare with me on this.....
Jarens torso was found on the beach at the end of bay oaks dr, bay st. Louis (note- bay oaks dr is within feet of Waveland city limits).
Two leg parts were found in pass Christian ( other side of bay bridge). Her head, leg part and clothes were found in long beach.
The winds blew from the west and the gulf waters enter and exit the actual "bay" in bay st Louis as the tide rises and falls. I would think that it would be more likely than not that the above mentioned remains would naturally flow into the bay (assuming torso washed up first). If you look at the coast line, the other found body parts totally skipped the opening to the bay. I find this strange.

Sorry if this is confusing. Does anyone get my train of thought on this?
It's been in the back of my brain since the beginning.
Input anyone? Is it possible that there was more than one dump site? Scattered intentionally?

Yes, strange. Also strange that the head and some clothes would end up in the same location. Although, I'm not sure how far apart they were found. Wouldn't the weight of something along with buoyancy factors affect how far and the way it moved within the water? Also if it would continue to flow or be likely to get caught up in something. What's the shoreline like near the shore? Is it all unobstructed water?

If things were dumped from a boat offshore, is it natural for them to be pushed inland toward shore? Would the heaviest thing reach shore first? Or would lighter items reach shore first. What would be dumped first? A head? The clothes? Torso last? Would they toss everything at the same time after they finished? If done on/from a boat, would they toss as they separated?

Also, wasn't there a brief period of time that the winds went one way and then shifted the other way during the night in question. I mean early morning hours of Wednesday.

I'm sorry to post these thoughts.

 

[Clodumbo]

You're welcome. I sent him an email too, but he hasn't responded.

Have you seen this?

Kiddofspeed - GHOST TOWN - Chernobyl Pictures -
Elena's Motorcyle Ride through Chernobyl

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/

No, but thanks for sharing the pics. It looks very interesting!:thumb:

 

[Clodumbo]

Ok, bare with me on this.....
Jarens torso was found on the beach at the end of bay oaks dr, bay st. Louis (note- bay oaks dr is within feet of Waveland city limits).
Two leg parts were found in pass Christian ( other side of bay bridge). Her head, leg part and clothes were found in long beach.
The winds blew from the west and the gulf waters enter and exit the actual "bay" in bay st Louis as the tide rises and falls. I would think that it would be more likely than not that the above mentioned remains would naturally flow into the bay (assuming torso washed up first). If you look at the coast line, the other found body parts totally skipped the opening to the bay. I find this strange.

Sorry if this is confusing. Does anyone get my train of thought on this?
It's been in the back of my brain since the beginning.
Input anyone? Is it possible that there was more than one dump site? Scattered intentionally?

I tried to Google Earth this area. It's confusing me more. I think that you maybe on to something though.

 

[SurfieTX]

Ok, bare with me on this.....
Jarens torso was found on the beach at the end of bay oaks dr, bay st. Louis (note- bay oaks dr is within feet of Waveland city limits).
Two leg parts were found in pass Christian ( other side of bay bridge). Her head, leg part and clothes were found in long beach.
The winds blew from the west and the gulf waters enter and exit the actual "bay" in bay st Louis as the tide rises and falls. I would think that it would be more likely than not that the above mentioned remains would naturally flow into the bay (assuming torso washed up first). If you look at the coast line, the other found body parts totally skipped the opening to the bay. I find this strange.

Sorry if this is confusing. Does anyone get my train of thought on this?
It's been in the back of my brain since the beginning.
Input anyone? Is it possible that there was more than one dump site? Scattered intentionally?

You are not the only one Vann. Bessie said the same thing from the get-go, and she's a local.

 

[Vann]

You are not the only one Vann. Bessie said the same thing from the get-go, and she's a local.

Yeah I'm a local also. It was one of those little details that kept gnawing at me. I am trying to find info on the tides for the Thursday JL was found. The weather was awful on Friday through Sunday so I'm not sure what part that played. I do know it hindered LE from searching during that time.
I drive across the bay bridge on almost a daily basis and replay different scenarios in my head as to how the disposal unfolded.
For me, her clothes being found is what sticks out in my head as suspicious. It just seems like an item that would have been long gone. Its one of those items that would have been easily caught up in grass, rocks, pilings, ect. It feels so suspicious to me.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

6/21/2006 to 1/27/2009- Terry Speaks was incarcerated in NC serving a percentage of his 4 year sentence he received.

** it is this intermediate time period which needs to be filled in which includes an arrest in California in 2010(I'll edit in exact dates for that arrest). I ALSO BELIEVE HE WAS IN FACT ALREADY IN NOLA DURING A PORTION OF THIS INTERMEDIATE TIME AS WELL**

Not certain when TCS was picked up by LE in San Diego. That may have been in 2005/06 (versus 2010) leading up to the reason why he was incarcerated beginning in June of 2006. He left NC without permission and without registering. In other words he disappeared thus 'Absconder'. At some point he evaded capture in Pennsylvania. That may have happened in 2010 or 11. I'm not sure how the mugshot was obtained in 2011. After he got out of prison, end of January 2009, I wonder how long he remained accounted for. Did he stay where he said he was staying or did he make trips 'home' to satisfy his parole/RSO requirements? On what date did authorities realize he stopped meeting those conditions? I'm not sure we can tell from looking at his records. We can't pinpoint when whatever happened in PA occurred. They never caught up to him until he was connected to Jaren in Temptations.


December 2011- Terry Speaks is known to be in NOLA, specifically the FQ

Decemeber 26 2011- Terry Speaks creates his online Facebook profile under the alias Allen Rice I presume

Very interesting that MAS wrote that Author Rice is her favorite. If you read Rice's bio, Allen is another name with connections to her. To me, this may indicate complicity of things to come on MAS's part.

March 4 2012- Terry Speaks and Margaret Sanchez are "married" in a ceremony that took place in the FQ. (*note that for reasons unbeknownst to me this marriage was not official thereby making Terry Speaks aka Allen Rice and Margaret Sanchez NOT LEGALLY HUSBAND/WIFE)

May 2012- Terry Speaks is terminated/fired from his position at Stilettos Club(next door to Temptations) for tampering with the clubs video surveillance equipment.

Is Stilettos where TCS tampered with cameras? Two other places have been mentioned (one place by a neighbor in Kenner) and I can't recall the other place but I'm confused about the various claims made regarding TCS's employment. Manager said he worked at Stilettos for about a year while a woman 'Christy' said something different.

June 5/6 2012- Both Terry and Margaret are known to have been inside his recently former place of employment, Stilettos Club late night/early morning of June 5/6. While in Stilettos its alleged by atleast two of the dancers who were working that night that they were each at different times approached by Margaret Sanchez and propositioned with similar offers.. both state that Speaks sat back and allowed Margaret to approach and proposition the girls first with an offer to go home with the couple as a sexual "treat" for the husband(Speaks) ..when declined atleast one of the girls stated that Margaret seemed very intent on persuading the dancer to accompany the couple home, stating that she saw a "hunger and desperation in Margaret's eyes"..after relentless pursuing of one of the dancers, including even stationing herself(MAS) outside of the dancers dressing room.. her final proposition was for the young woman to go with the couple to a party across town that was in need of entertainment and that she would be paid $700 for this gig.. when she again declined she says that Margaret went back to Speaks where they briefly spoke and then left out of Stilettos Club.

June 6 2012- at 1:47am Terry Speaks and Margaret Sanchez are seen entering into the club next door to Stilettos, named Temptations ..

At some point very soon thereafter Jaren asks for permission to leave early from her shift that wasn't due to end til 3am..she states the purpose of her leaving early was for an opportunity to make $500 for dancing at a party(supposedly the party in east NOLA but no confirmation on that detail)

Just to be 100 percent sure that the man we see entering Temptations on the video is TCS, I'd like to see proof that TCS added the right arm tatoo to his 'marks' description.

2:05am of June 6 2012- just 17 short minutes from the time they are seen entering into Temptations the couple are seen leaving the club along with Jaren Lockhart.

LE never released the video of Jaren walking out of the club with MAS and TCS. Right?

2:05-just shy of 2:30am June 6- surrounding businesses on Bourbon streets video surveillance shows the 3 adults walk several blocks and round a corner out of sight en route to what's believed to be Margaret's car which she regularly parked off of Bourbon St when working/frequenting the FQ.

June 11 2012- unannounced and unexpectedly the supposed husband/wife Margaret and Terry show up at a friend of Margaret's home..this individual is known to and been friends with Margaret since 2011 when both women were receiving psychiatric treatment at a local facility for bi polar.. Margaret / Speaks spent that night at the home of this friend, her husband, and their young daughter.. Margaret told this friend they'd been evicted from their home.. Margaret also on multiple occasions that night they stayed with the couple mentioned about the "stripper who got killed and whose body had washed ashore"..both Margaet/Speaks dyed their hair in the home kitchen of this friend (blue/orange)

Yes, Monday night they slept at the friend's house. This is the 6th day (counting Wednesday) after the crime. Friends say they used both sinks - bathroom and kitchen - small detail but I read it somewhere.

June 12 2012- Terry Speaks and Margaret Sanchez were pulled over in routine traffic stop and were subsequently taken into custody in Tangipahoa Parish after being met with mild-medium resistance during the arrest..

Things are not looking good for either of them now. Just throwing out a comment that TCS did have something else he was running from. He knew he'd be returning to prison if caught regardless if he is responsible for Jaren's murder. Now, it boils down to if he's in prison for the rest of his life or if he has a chance of ever getting out again.

After eating in a restaurant? Or had they visited family members at an outdoor picnic/party? Why I'm I confused about this detail? MAS and TCS were arrested in Tangipahoa parish, the same parish that Jaren's people live in and where her home was outside of New Orleans. MAS lived in Jefferson Parish but told her friends that she had been evicted from the Kenner house. If MAS has family/and children in Tangipahoa parish, why wouldn't she go to their house? Did the family suspect her of wrongdoing and tell her to leave the Kenner house on Sunday/Monday? There could be some truth to her claim, although I don't know why they didn't keep on driving unless they were trying to get their hands on some money.

Comments/questions in GREEN by Woe.

 

[babycat]

Judging from the weather patterns during that time - Waveland, Pass Christian
and Long Beach areas could be a possibilities. After all, the winds were blowing from
the west. Can someone from these areas, please give me an idea about how long it
takes to drive from Bourbon St in New Orleans to this area of Mississippi? I’m just
trying to figure out the timeline. Thank you very much!


P.S. I’m really interested in reading the latest posts. We have some really great
minds working together here.

Depending on traffic, from Biloxi it's right around an hour, give or take a few. At least it is for me and DH, when we ride over.

 

[Vann]

Things are not looking good for either of them now. Just throwing out a comment that TCS did have something else he was running from. He knew he'd be returning to prison if caught regardless if he is responsible for Jaren's murder. Now, it boils down to if he's in prison for the rest of his life or if he has a chance of ever getting out again.

After eating in a restaurant? Or had they visited family members at an outdoor picnic/party? Why I'm I confused about this detail? MAS and TCS were arrested in Tangipahoa parish, the same parish that Jaren's people live in and where her home was outside of New Orleans. MAS lived in Jefferson Parish but told her friends that she had been evicted from the Kenner house. If MAS has family/and children in Tangipahoa parish, why wouldn't she go to their house? Did the family suspect her of wrongdoing and tell her to leave the Kenner house on Sunday/Monday? There could be some truth to her claim, although I don't know why they didn't keep on driving unless they were trying to get their hands on some money.

Comments/questions in GREEN by Woe.

I think they didn't flee ASAP because of the lack of money to do so. TS was fired from his job and MAS was a bartender. Bartenders live off their tips and I can't see MAS putting away for a rainy day. Sounds likely they stuck around to try and borrow money from family and friends. Failed attempt of course.

 

[2LuckyDogs]

Yeah I'm a local also. It was one of those little details that kept gnawing at me. I am trying to find info on the tides for the Thursday JL was found. The weather was awful on Friday through Sunday so I'm not sure what part that played. I do know it hindered LE from searching during that time.
I drive across the bay bridge on almost a daily basis and replay different scenarios in my head as to how the disposal unfolded.
For me, her clothes being found is what sticks out in my head as suspicious. It just seems like an item that would have been long gone. Its one of those items that would have been easily caught up in grass, rocks, pilings, ect. It feels so suspicious to me.

Just thinking out loud...

Could the walking track under bay bridge be a possible disposal site if at that time the water was moving out of the bay? Or at Henderson Point (since it is past the opening of the bay) when the current was moving west? Or did they drive down beach blvd from bay oaks drive and randomly pick spots?

The walking track under bay bridge at dusk is scary for me even with my german shepherd. It is secluded and I would imagine it being very dark after midnight.

 

[2LuckyDogs]

Yes, strange. Also strange that the head and some clothes would end up in the same location. Although, I'm not sure how far apart they were found. Wouldn't the weight of something along with buoyancy factors affect how far and the way it moved within the water? Also if it would continue to flow or be likely to get caught up in something. What's the shoreline like near the shore? Is it all unobstructed water?

If things were dumped from a boat offshore, is it natural for them to be pushed inland toward shore? Would the heaviest thing reach shore first? Or would lighter items reach shore first. What would be dumped first? A head? The clothes? Torso last? Would they toss everything at the same time after they finished? If done on/from a boat, would they toss as they separated?

Also, wasn't there a brief period of time that the winds went one way and then shifted the other way during the night in question. I mean early morning hours of Wednesday.

I'm sorry to post these thoughts.

After reading an article on decompostion in water.......I gathered the body part would first sink, decomposition gases would cause bloat and object would float to the top and then begin to drift. If a one body part decomposed faster than the others I can only assume the winds/tides could place them in different locations as they would surface to the top at different times. Does this sound right???

 

[bessie]

I think they didn't flee ASAP because of the lack of money to do so. TS was fired from his job and MAS was a bartender. Bartenders live off their tips and I can't see MAS putting away for a rainy day. Sounds likely they stuck around to try and borrow money from family and friends. Failed attempt of course.

Exactly! They were broke, which makes the story about the two offering hundreds of dollars to dancers for a "little treat" so suspicious. I don't want to call anyone a liar, but I'd like to know what MAS really told the dancer she approached on stage. If it's true MAS offered her money, whose money was it? I don't blame her for not mentioning any other names to a reporter. I only pray she's been upfront with LE. So when she turned them down, they asked Jaren, and possibly one other dancer before her who also refused. I'm pretty sure JL would have known those two didn't have $500 or $700 to throw around. So why did she leave with them, and even ask to get off early to do so? Who did she think would be paying for her time? Who??

 

[Vann]

Just thinking out loud...

Could the walking track under bay bridge be a possible disposal site if at that time the water was moving out of the bay? Or at Henderson Point (since it is past the opening of the bay) when the current was moving west? Or did they drive down beach blvd from bay oaks drive and randomly pick spots?

The walking track under bay bridge at dusk is scary for me even with my german shepherd. It is secluded and I would imagine it being very dark after midnight.

Those spots entered my mind in the beginning also. On the pass side of the bridge there is that little park. It's scary out there at dusk and at night. The waters edge is very rocky and there is a boat launch out there also. We went out there a couple of months ago to fish in the evening and I found it very creepy. The little park is under the bridge and I found it an unsafe place to put a park because it's within feet of the water. No lights either.

 

[Vann]

Exactly! They were broke, which makes the story about the two offering hundreds of dollars to dancers for a "little treat" so suspicious. I don't want to call anyone a liar, but I'd like to know what MAS really told the dancer she approached on stage. If it's true MAS offered her money, whose money was it? I don't blame her for not mentioning any other names to a reporter. I only pray she's been upfront with LE. So when she turned them down, they asked Jaren, and possibly one other dancer before her who also refused. I'm pretty sure JL would have known those two didn't have $500 or $700 to throw around. So why did she leave with them, and even ask to get off early to do so? Who did she think would be paying for her time? Who??

Hmmm...by brain keeps going back and forth. Still so many good questions and still so very few answers.

 

[Vann]

If anyone sees JUSTTHEFACTSMAM on here, then maybe he might know where those beach pics were taken at.

 

[friendofthecourt]

For those of us reading Shake the Devil Off, I stumbled across this video a year or 2 ago. I feel it is the perfect backdrop to the book.

Abandoned Six Flags New Orleans Tour - YouTube

Thanks for the link. I was really moved by it. I always meant to go to six flags, and have a kid I thought might have liked it. It is still in limbo. I drive by the park on the way to fish and it is always sad to see. Anything in east NO is sad to see for me. Still no recovery like you see in fla. I know you all in mississippi are still affected too.

 

[bessie]

Thanks for the link. I was really moved by it. I always meant to go to six flags, and have a kid I thought might have liked it. It is still in limbo. I drive by the park on the way to fish and it is always sad to see. Anything in east NO is sad to see for me. Still no recovery like you see in fla. I know you all in mississippi are still affected too.

A production company filmed a movie at Jazzland/Six Flags recently. Hooked up generators and actually ran some of the rides. So maybe there's hope for it yet. I don't know, but I'd rather see it demolished than left in its current state.

I couldn't watch the video.

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

Exactly! They were broke, which makes the story about the two offering hundreds of dollars to dancers for a "little treat" so suspicious. I don't want to call anyone a liar, but I'd like to know what MAS really told the dancer she approached on stage. If it's true MAS offered her money, whose money was it? I don't blame her for not mentioning any other names to a reporter. I only pray she's been upfront with LE. So when she turned them down, they asked Jaren, and possibly one other dancer before her who also refused. I'm pretty sure JL would have known those two didn't have $500 or $700 to throw around. So why did she leave with them, and even ask to get off early to do so? Who did she think would be paying for her time? Who??

Could TCS have been working as a driver or bodyguard for an "escort service" like the one referred to in the article out of Biloxi about the escort sting and prostitution bust you linked in an earlier post? (I haven't figured out how to cut and paste on this tablet yet.) Is it possible that his previous jobs at the clubs would have given TCS the connections to such services? I came across several articles dating from 2009-2012 covering the escort and prostitution busts on the MS Gulf Coast. None of the articles name the hotels where the arrests were made which makes me wonder if it was at casinos.

Maybe MAS assisted in finding dancers who would be willing to take the job and then she would drive them to the "party"? That might explain how Jaren ended up in MS with MAS and TS? But what would have led to her murder after she accepted the invitation?

 

[LadyBug86]

I'm posting my impression from the series of posts about MAS (when I see MS, I'm not sure if it's Mississippi or Margaret) and JL having a relationship. This is only my impression, as I have no proof but propose this theory.

The theory being, that is not a stretch of imagination imo, that if TCS (not necessarily MAS) made money dealing drugs (which is a reason why he may have wanted to adjust cameras too), and if Jaren and bf were/are users, then that may be the basis of their relationship and a reason someone may swing by MAS's house from time to time too.

It crossed my mind that TCS was bringing JL somewhere to score drugs. I'm sure somebody knows what they/bf used. I read earlier that there is an addiction involved so I'm not thinking about recreational drug use. Therefore, there would be a relationship with the drug dealer. Was TCS the dealer? Did he bring JL to his supplier? Did something happen in relation to that exchange? Could the tragedy have nothing to do with sex/dancing and everything to do with drugs and greed?

One can extend the theory to involve other people who, in the end, tried to rob JL of all of her money not following through on a fair exchange of drugs for the agreed upon amount of money or tried to engage her in other activities that she wasn't willing to participate in. JL probably was dragged into a situation blindly and caught off guard.

It would be interesting to know if MAS's drug use escalated as her relationship with TCS became tighter. She seemed totally strung out at the time of their arrest. Was she like that before she met him?

I don't know if drugs were involved or not...I just know MAS and TCS were looking for a "treat" they made that known so I think they could have used drugs as maybe a get away for them with her...but I think it was mainly about their sick fantasies IMHO