LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette; 19 May 2012 - #21

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  • #421
Here is a photo from intersection of Cherry and Brasherar.

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  • #422
There is no way this was someone hitting her while drunk. I've hit a pedestrian and believe me, there are signs left on the roadway. There would be blood on the road. The bike would be crushed.

It all depends on the angle of impact on if the bike would of been crushed, straight on yes, but would I emagine straight on no, I would think he/she tryed to avoid, due to being drunk, reactions slow and caught rear bike tire at a angle, thus damage to rear rim/tire and not the entire bike. As for blood, yes I would think so also, BUT we still have no reall answer where and what happend along what part of her route and which route. blunt force head trauma, doesnt mean blood and guts to kill
 
  • #423
Just a nice quiet little neighborhood

so it's possible that she she made it all the way down brashear to johston?
 
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I stopped by the exit at Whiskey Bay last night. It was a full moon and still very dark. I couldn't find the way to the river where the bike was dumped. Everything, signage and roads, takes you to the boat landing on the opposite side. It wasn't until I drove 3 times by this very small road that I could find the way under the bridge to the river. There are no markings.

And this was absolutely the best place to dump the bike because the perp could have done it at the first exit in Henderson, or at the next exit at Butte La Rose. But he chose Whiskey Bay apparently because he knew how fast the current of the river was. He apparently assumed the current would take the bike. And if he was there at night (probable), he knew where to find the very dark path/road to the river.

The perp was either familiar with the area or knew about it from the DTL case or just got lucky and came upon a very fast river (but unluckly that the current didn't take the bike).
 
  • #426
so it's possible that she she made it all the way down brashear to johston?

Very. Theres no cameras I saw on that section of Johnston for quite a ways. She couldve made it pretty far down
 
  • #427
She's got a temp job for the next month so is unable either. I have a feeling she probably wouldn't go again anyway ... she was pretty freaked out in the last area we searched ... think it really scared her.

Oh okay, that's understandable. It's not for everyone, that's for sure! I have been freaked out a couple times too. Once I lost sight of everyone in my group, all I could hear were birds, random leaves falling...momentarily wondered if I would know the right nuts and berries to survive on if I got stuck out there! Then immediately realized I had a whistle and a cell phone and was no longer so scared.
 
  • #428
As far as damage with vehicle bike accidents.
6yrs ago my wife was driving her jeep liberty at night and went to take a right, the road was a sweeping right NOT a hard right like most are accustomed to. Anyways, she did not see a man riding his 10 speed road bike, and he hit her in the front fender, him probably 25mph-ish , wife probably 20ish. Glancing blow, the ONLY damage to his bike was a couple bent spokes,(him couple scrapes &bruises) which I had to pay to get straightned out, wifes jeeps 0 damage.
 
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IF I was drunk in Lafayette, I would take I10 Direct to WB, the other route adds a lot of miles and small town cops who love to pull you over for anything on 190...............

I thought the same thing - when you are down there the signs let you know how close you are to Krotz Springs...main thing I know about Krotz Springs and alllllll the surrounding little towns around there is to not have any tint on your windows, have your seatbelt on and go 5 miles under the limit. :) At 2:00-something in the morning....EVEN MORE SO. Even if you are a local. I10 to WB is the most obvious, anything at WB is the most obvious. I think this is why it bothers me so much. If the bike was found 100 yards up the shoreline from the underpass as some reports said, It was sheer bad luck for the perp that it washed up right there?? I'm with you on the current - it hasn't been as bad the past few days...but its still a current and was much stronger earlier in the investigation.
 
  • #431
They need Booth and Bones on that case ASAP!

Yep seriously, Booth would have this solved by now lol. I love him.
 
  • #432
It all depends on the angle of impact on if the bike would of been crushed, straight on yes, but would I emagine straight on no, I would think he/she tryed to avoid, due to being drunk, reactions slow and caught rear bike tire at a angle, thus damage to rear rim/tire and not the entire bike. As for blood, yes I would think so also, BUT we still have no reall answer where and what happend along what part of her route and which route. blunt force head trauma, doesnt mean blood and guts to kill

an injured skull bleeds ALOT. my son at 3 years old fell backwards off his low to the ground tricycle when he rode into the culdesac curb. he had an inch of the back of his head stapled and there was blood EVERYWHERE. in the street, my house, me, my car, the emergency room. if she hit on accident, there would be a trace, thats just my opinion. also, when you look at the whiskey bay exit, even under the bridge, he still had to have sort of dropped it. there's a rocky drop offbefore it would hit the water. i think the tire was damaged while being hurriedly thrown in a trunk or shoved in backseat or was damaged when put in the water
 
  • #433
I appreciate that. Sincerely.

I speak from my gut.


If my sibling or loved one went missing, I think my demeanor would be different.
Just saying.

If my son went missing, I wouldn't be smiling and laughing on camera. (with doggie on shoulder)

Just saying...............
I would be pleading and crying.

Just my 2 cents.

PS: red flag for me.

No one can know how they would act or what they would say or do in a situation like this, unless they walk in the same shoes. I wouldn't wish it on the devil!
 
  • #434
Oh okay, that's understandable. It's not for everyone, that's for sure! I have been freaked out a couple times too. Once I lost sight of everyone in my group, all I could hear were birds, random leaves falling...momentarily wondered if I would know the right nuts and berries to survive on if I got stuck out there! Then immediately realized I had a whistle and a cell phone and was no longer so scared.

We got separated from the group yesterday and the heat was rough, I definitely had a few seconds where I wasn't sure where I was or why - we had quite a few (much) older searchers with our group and I was very concerned for a couple of them. They all agreed that had they known what they were getting into they would have volunteered their time/energy in some other way because they couldnt do much to help - brush too thick, machetes too heavy, heat thorns and bugs all after you...and lets not get started on the snakes and poison ivy. I think they thought they would be looking on road sides, up and down city streets, etc. BUT - help is help - searching somewhere in some capacity is better than not searching at all. Everyone stays SO positive out there.
 
  • #435
It all depends on the angle of impact on if the bike would of been crushed, straight on yes, but would I emagine straight on no, I would think he/she tryed to avoid, due to being drunk, reactions slow and caught rear bike tire at a angle, thus damage to rear rim/tire and not the entire bike. As for blood, yes I would think so also, BUT we still have no reall answer where and what happend along what part of her route and which route. blunt force head trauma, doesnt mean blood and guts to kill

Falling from a bike on a road would cause blood on the road.

Here's another thing, if this was an accident, the driver was from that neighborhood. There is no reason to drive down those streets unless you live there or you're going to a home there. Those are not streets like University with high traffic.

If she was abducted in the Saint street areas and the white truck is the perp, this is the probable scenario:

MS crosses University from St. John onto St. Landry. Perp is driving down University northbound (we know this b/c we don't see a white truck from the University camera) or immediately following her on St. John. He bumps her to impair her and then so on.

IMO he went out looking for a girl at 2 am and was cruising that area which is packed with people leaving downtown (where most of the bars are) back to the campus area, less than a mile away. The fact that he took the bike with him leads me to think he had this planned.

IMO this is not the perp's first rodeo.
 
  • #436
As far as damage with vehicle bike accidents.
6yrs ago my wife was driving her jeep liberty at night and went to take a right, the road was a sweeping right NOT a hard right like most are accustomed to. Anyways, she did not see a man riding his 10 speed road bike, and he hit her in the front fender, him probably 25mph-ish , wife probably 20ish. Glancing blow, the ONLY damage to his bike was a couple bent spokes,(him couple scrapes &bruises) which I had to pay to get straightned out, wifes jeeps 0 damage.

that's the thing, if he didn't hit her bad enough to kill her, then why would he take her?

if he did hit her bad enough to kill her then there would be blood or tissue somewhere that someone would have noticed.
 
  • #437
I thought the same thing - when you are down there the signs let you know how close you are to Krotz Springs...main thing I know about Krotz Springs and alllllll the surrounding little towns around there is to not have any tint on your windows, have your seatbelt on and go 5 miles under the limit. :) At 2:00-something in the morning....EVEN MORE SO. Even if you are a local. I10 to WB is the most obvious, anything at WB is the most obvious. I think this is why it bothers me so much. If the bike was found 100 yards up the shoreline from the underpass as some reports said, It was sheer bad luck for the perp that it washed up right there?? I'm with you on the current - it hasn't been as bad the past few days...but its still a current and was much stronger earlier in the investigation.

I think I missed something. There are reports that the bike was 100 years up the shoreline? What does this mean? Upstream of the overpass? Not under the bridge as most think?
 
  • #438
Wrong info, sorry, deleted.
 
  • #439
Yes. Absolutely possible.

my goodness though, johnston street is a busy street even at 2am, especially on a saturday and its well lit right? how could she have been taken there? but how coulkd she have been swiped in a nice neighborhood? i know its possible, but it just seems so excuse the term, ballsy to take someone off both johnston and brashear. the behind colisium area was only place that seemed like an easy "good" place to snatch someone, but she didnt go there. i cant remember how established that she didnt take thatroute, but i know we did last night after camera discussion ruled that route out
 
  • #440
an injured skull bleeds ALOT. my son at 3 years old fell backwards off his low to the ground tricycle when he rode into the culdesac curb. he had an inch of the back of his head stapled and there was blood EVERYWHERE. in the street, my house, me, my car, the emergency room. if she hit on accident, there would be a trace, thats just my opinion. also, when you look at the whiskey bay exit, even under the bridge, he still had to have sort of dropped it. there's a rocky drop offbefore it would hit the water. i think the tire was damaged while being hurriedly thrown in a trunk or shoved in backseat or was damaged when put in the water

Ive seen it both ways though - had a good friend with a bad head and other bodily injuries from a bike accident and he had the smallest scratch on his forehead and a big knot on the back of his head..large scrape on one hand...otherwise looked absolutely fine. Was in a coma for a few weeks - it was told to us by the doctors that the damage was all internal swelling and bleeding and if he had not gotten to the hospital fast enough he would not have made it. If I remember correctly they purposefully had him in that coma for part of the time working on the brain swelling and other internal injuries.

I do agree that an accident 'should' have a trace and it would have been much more difficult to get the entire bike, Mickey and her belongings all in the truck without anyone seeing/hearing and without leaving something, anything behind.

Not sure I can speculate on how the bike got damaged until they show us or tell us more - I absolutely agree it could have been damaged while shoving into a trunk/truck...not sure about the drop off. Its not exactly rocky as much as muddy and the bike would have had to have been thrown 15-20 yards OUT from the 'cliff' to make it to the water after somehow making it through very very thick forest/brush that we had difficulties cutting through with a machete. Still scratching my head on that one and still assuming the report on the exact spot of the bike was just off...as so many other details have been.
 
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