LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #28

[cityslick]

I don't know who altered the particular photo in question...the one with the broken windshield. I'm unsure if this is the same one where you can see a driver that many referred to as having a black head. I would like to know who did it to see how they came up with these images.

But I will say one thing.... Most of the pics I have seen have ONLY been altered by either cropping, enlarging or changing the contrast of the photo's LE released. These types of alterations are absolutely essential in determining what is being seen. I have these photo's and have enlarged them and I do see blue/teal in the original photo's. Now I think it is a reflection on LE taking a pic of the video to provide a quick pic for the media.

If you are going to rely on the pics released by LE without increasing their size or trying to sharpen the images en you may as well not ever look at the photo's period because you will never see anything but another white truck.

I know people who have been in LE in all aspects for many many years. They hire experts to take stills of each frame of a video and they use several types of programs to clarify the images. They want to see every blade of grass if they are able. So if someone here has the skills and capability that these experts do to clarify these images then i want to see them! Seriously, what does it hurt? Of course, they need to be labeled with what type of alterations were made.

Guess it bothers me that members are so against some of the very minor alterations that have been made. Cropping, enlarging and changing the contrast does NOT change what is in the image. It makes it clearer. It doesn't make a blurry blob look like a bicycle if it isn't one to begin with.

There have been a lot of wild and somewhat crazy theories I've seen pass through this thread. Sometimes I read a post and and think the person has been under a rock for fifty years to even think it's possible but I respect their opinion and appreciate the thought they put into it.

As ole Sherlwhen says...."When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"

IMO, due to having experience in dealing with enhancing and cropping photos, you're never going to see anything conclusive with the photo in question in this case. No matter how much you blow it up or crop it. The distance from the camera that you are focusing on is too small (just a number of pixels when blown out, maybe even 1-2). That is way too small of a number to make out anything, even a color. This is to due to a wide variety of factors, not the least of which that it's low resolution to begin with.

 

[Island hopper]

I know the truck comment is directed at me (the Kenner truck) & I'm just relaying info my hubby (after watching the video) who has been in LE for over 35 stated "it looks just like it in my opinion, since the pics released by Lafayette pd are very grain." I own a silver car & when photo'd in the dark using a video cam, it shows up white & not silver. I do agree that there are stickers on the LE pic released but you cannot see it in both shots. All of the Chevy Z71 series that have been seen in my area are all farm truck & duallies. I Have o sy this too, I called Mr. A last Sat about the truck towed from my area (on a "flat bed" tow truck, not a regular tow truck) & he was at that place of biz it was retrieved from (I saw him w/my own two eyes on Mon & asked the owner of the biz, was that who I thought it was & it was yes) so I guess the fact that I gave my name, hubby's name, which LE agency he's with (BTW he knew hubby, so he took the call as legit) & all phone numbers we could be reached at. This case has gotten completely off the focus...FIND MICKEY! The nit-picking & "alien theories" are getting absurd. How can anything be taken seriously especially if it comes from, "I heard this on such & such website". Bouncing theories & ideas of where MS is located has long been deserted...it analyzing crappy pic, distorting them, seeing Elvis in turquoise jumpsuits, beating a dead horse!!! This thread became nearly 20+ threads on DWT only...what happened to MS? It's gotten so ridiculous that if something does seem "par for the course" it's immediately posted here w/o verifying then that turns into page after page of jibber-jabber! FYI: if the interstate is shut down its due to a wreck...not to shoot a movie...movies are shot all over the state everyday (there are 4 movie studios in LA w/a 5th one being build...I do movie make up so I always know where they shoot...most pursuits will be done green screen). The truck is only a VOI...the police are too busy w/this & other crimes to chase EVERY little rumor. They have their dept. problems they are dealing with, same as any dept in LA.

Hello?? I work in films And i am not a make-up artist. Highways and entire sections of cities are shut down all the time. I just worked with TC the day he flew into Baton Rouge and I can assure you, his films and many others I have worked on do cause a lot of traffic and deadlock.

Again, this thread is here for members to find out what happened to Mickey. As there is little evidence and no recent updates, all people have to do is hypothesize on every tidbit of info we can come across. It can't all be right of course but who is to say that some idea you think is crazy isn't what solves everything? If you discount every item you mentioned then the only thing anyone will be able to post every day is "where is Mickey" with no one responding.

I respect your husband's opinion as an LEO or just a person giving an opinion. But that is all any of us have with possibly the exception of ACI...and that is an opinion.

 

[cityslick]

Hello?? I work in films And i am not a make-up artist. Highways and entire sections of cities are shut down all the time. I just worked with TC the day he flew into Baton Rouge and I can assure you, his films and many others I have worked on do cause a lot of traffic and deadlock.

Again, this thread is here for members to find out what happened to Mickey. As there is little evidence and no recent updates, all people have to do is hypothesize on every tidbit of info we can come across. It can't all be right of course but who is to say that some idea you think is crazy isn't what solves everything? If you discount every item you mentioned then the only thing anyone will be able to post every day is "where is Mickey" with no one responding.

I respect your husband's opinion as an LEO or just a person giving an opinion. But that is all any of us have with possibly the exception of ACI...and that is an opinion.

Usually with most cases on here, theorizing is fine, but I would think that those theories have to have at least some basis of fact or evidence that collaborates the theory. If not, we can start throwing alien abduction theories out there.

:abduction:

 

[Darcyline]

I still have this horrible feeling that while we are obsessing over a picture and what we see in blobs that LE knows the vehicles aren't related and that is why we don't see more urgency from them or more photos released. Simply, I don't think they see the pictures to be as important as we do. I hope I am wrong!

 

[cluciano63]

I still have this horrible feeling that while we are obsessing over a picture and what we see in blobs that LE knows the vehicles aren't related and that is why we don't see more urgency from them or more photos released. Simply, I don't think they see the pictures to be as important as we do. I hope I am wrong!

Even Mickey's family has not been talking about the white truck...they may have already been advised it has been ruled out. You'd think they would be posting about it daily if it was truly the clue everyone assumes it to be, JMO.

 

[Island hopper]

LOL, it's not my link, but THE official source of info--LPD. It includes all pics of the vehicles. Unless there was some other pic that was removed that I don't remember? The only one that they have taken off is the pic of MS in front of Circle K, and I'm not sure why they took it off, but I'm pretty sure all the pics of the VOI's are still here.

If you carefully read Update V, it says the first pic is an "updated picture of the initial vehicle of interest" which would be the WT in Update IV. It goes on to state "It is evident from the new photo that the vehicle has a bed cover and tinted windows" which we KNOW has been identified and cleared according to Update IX: "Lafayette Police have identified the operators and occupants of both the older model 4-door car and the white 4-door pickup truck with the bed cover, which were captured on surveillance video. Investigators have ruled out any involvement by these individuals and they offered no additional clues for the investigation. Investigators continue to seek information on the newer model white Z-71 pickup truck."

This means we are looking at ONE picture of ONE VOI: a white 4 door Chevy Z71, which is labeled Picture 2 on Update V. (Of course, however, there is some confusion since LE has also told someone "off the record" that the two trucks in front of Circle K were the same). But, this is the official information, on their website.

Sorry...I am going to beat the so called dead horse again. So anyone that does not agree with me...please feel free to ignore my opinion. It doesn't matter who states that the white truck turning left on St. John St (?) is the same truck as the one with the bed cover...I will never ever believe it. Doesn't matter if it is LE or an official website, I won't believe it. I can see that it's a different truck and has many different features. I am guessing either it's a communication error or now that the pic was released they want less focus on it. I could be wrong of course but I will believe until proven otherwise.

 

[LafayetteMom]

Sorry...I am going to beat the so called dead horse again. So anyone that does not agree with me...please feel free to ignore my opinion. It doesn't matter who states that the white truck turning left on St. John St (?) is the same truck as the one with the bed cover...I will never ever believe it. Doesn't matter if it is LE or an official website, I won't believe it. I can see that it's a different truck and has many different features. I am guessing either it's a communication error or now that the pic was released they want less focus on it. I could be wrong of course but I will believe until proven otherwise.

The truck is on St. Landry St. Is this the pic you thought was not included? Or is there some other pic you are referring to?

 

[wenderella]

Just curious; IS Charlene shunik off of Facebook now? It used to be that you could click on her page and get info. Maybe she has taken it down?

Charlene is still on Facebook. In fact I sent her a private message this morning letting her know how many people are praying for Mickey. Also let her know about this website and how many people all over the country including those there in Layfayette whom have taken pics/videos for the rest of us to see what the area is like and come up with ideas on what could have happened to her sister Mickey. I encouraged her to have a close friend come visit Websluths as it would be too overwhelming for her and maybe discredit/give ideas(of course not to hurt the investigation) so we can focus on the FACTS.

I also agree-this thread is getting way off subject-I cant keep up reading things(although just as importent) that belong on their own threads.not Mickeys!

I hope I have not offended anyone-just want Charlene and her family to have there dear Mickey HOME!

 

[LafayetteMom]

Even Mickey's family has not been talking about the white truck...they may have already been advised it has been ruled out. You'd think they would be posting about it daily if it was truly the clue everyone assumes it to be, JMO.

I just asked Charlie. We'll see what she says. Then maybe, just maybe, we can stop talking about DWT's lol.

 

[LafayetteMom]

Charlene is still on Facebook. In fact I sent her a private message this morning letting her know how many people are praying for Mickey. Also let her know about this website and how many people all over the country including those there in Layfayette whom have taken pics/videos for the rest of us to see what the area is like and come up with ideas on what could have happened to her sister Mickey. I encouraged her to have a close friend come visit Websluths as it would be too overwhelming for her and maybe discredit/give ideas(of course not to hurt the investigation) so we can focus on the FACTS.

I also agree-this thread is getting way off subject-I cant keep up reading things(although just as importent) that belong on their own threads.not Mickeys!

I hope I have not offended anyone-just want Charlene and her family to have there dear Mickey HOME!

She does know about this site, as well as others, and spends hours and hours reading them!

 

[jujube]

I just waded through the last six or seven pages of the previous thread.

I am absolutely horrified about the doctored pictures of the truck, in which so many are seeing not only a driver, but a passenger, AND a cracked windshield.

NONE of those things are visible in the photo released by LE. NOT EVEN ONE OF THEM.

I do not know who is responsible for doctoring the picture, but I do know that we are all responsible for going along with it if we don't challenge such things when they happen. I don't know if the person who doctored the picture did it truly trying to help, or if they are deliberately muddying the water. But I do know that if we choose to wade in the muddy water, we are perpetuating a fraud, even if it was good intentions that led to it.

PLEASE ASK YOURSELF: How can I possibly see a blue/teal shirt in a black and white photo?

It is so obvious when comparing the doctored photo to that of LE that substantial things have been done to change the photo.....and I am not talking about just changing contrast and blowing the photo up, either.

WE ARE HERE TO HELP FIND MICKEY. It does not help in any way to change a photo so much that we can now "clearly" see things that aren't there.

When working with photo editing programs, there is a button - One step photo fix. It automatically adds color to a photo but it also sharpens it a bit as well. The good thing about it adding color is it can also delineate shapes. I will be the first to admit that I cannot see certain things that others see in the pictures.
Most of us who worked with the photos did so only because we felt it was a way we could contribute to help to find Mickey. LE has other things going on besides Mickey's case. However, if it helps Mickey more to sit here and criticize the work of others who were only trying to help, then that's fine too.

 

[Island hopper]

IMO, due to having experience in dealing with enhancing and cropping photos, you're never going to see anything conclusive with the photo in question in this case. No matter how much you blow it up or crop it. The distance from the camera that you are focusing on is too small (just a number of pixels when blown out, maybe even 1-2). That is way too small of a number to make out anything, even a color. This is to due to a wide variety of factors, not the least of which that it's low resolution to begin with.

This I agree with which is why I think the blue that is there must be a reflection. I have an iPad and all I have to do is pull the image to make it larger and I do see the blue/teal and I know my iPad didn't add it. Some people have also referred to the images as black and white when in fact they are greyscale. Greyscale will at least give some dimension to colors but will not show the color itself but you can see the difference between a light red and a dark red.

I do believe, however, that a video forensics expert can enhance these video's as part of the investigation. To a degree so can some of the art people I have worked with. Google video forensics and look at images. Some of the images these experts enhance is amazing. They can even take a completely blacked out video image and and enhance it to near perfection.

 

[Jefferson]

LOL, it's not my link, but THE official source of info--LPD. It includes all pics of the vehicles. Unless there was some other pic that was removed that I don't remember? The only one that they have taken off is the pic of MS in front of Circle K, and I'm not sure why they took it off, but I'm pretty sure all the pics of the VOI's are still here.

If you carefully read Update V, it says the first pic is an "updated picture of the initial vehicle of interest" which would be the WT in Update IV. It goes on to state "It is evident from the new photo that the vehicle has a bed cover and tinted windows" which we KNOW has been identified and cleared according to Update IX: "Lafayette Police have identified the operators and occupants of both the older model 4-door car and the white 4-door pickup truck with the bed cover, which were captured on surveillance video. Investigators have ruled out any involvement by these individuals and they offered no additional clues for the investigation. Investigators continue to seek information on the newer model white Z-71 pickup truck."

This means we are looking at ONE picture of ONE VOI: a white 4 door Chevy Z71, which is labeled Picture 2 on Update V. (Of course, however, there is some confusion since LE has also told someone "off the record" that the two trucks in front of Circle K were the same). But, this is the official information, on their website.

"your link" being the link you posted in your response. And at the time I was on my Ipad and didn't see the DWT in the LCG turn lane. I see it now.

And it's difficult to see how LE could claim the DWT in the turn lane on St. Landry is the same as the one on Univ considering the bed cover is apparently evident on the Univ photo but not the St. Landry photo. Also, you can see what appears to be a gas cap on the St. Landry photo but not the Univ photo. And the Univ photo doesn't look like an American made truck.

 

[Angree Cajon]

It's unfair and inaccurate to portray all the Jennings victims as being hookers or wanna be hookers. Their common thread seems to be that they were had alcohol and or drugs in their system and seemed to run in the same circles. Also, while their social circle and occupations are relevant in attempting connections, their lives were certainly no less as important as MS's and their deaths no less tragic.

I stated it wasn't said to offend & apologized, but if you didn't know this girls personally (I knew at least 3) & the "baby daddy" (he's baby daddy to a cousin's kid)...I am going on fact. What has never been mentioned was the death of a woman, who ran w/these girl (she was killed in a car accident) & her hubby (girl in car accident...we'll call her "Mom of 3") Mo3s body was found to be very, very intoxicated...she had just left one of the JD8's family's home (visiting w/her stepchild, in fact brought the child a present) & she's not be linked due to the wreck. I KNOW she was a member of the clique. She was afraid she was next, she came by to visit one day before the accident & said this in passing. She was messed up on something so she had loose lips.

 

[kgeaux]

If you are going to rely on the pics released by LE without increasing their size or trying to sharpen the images en you may as well not ever look at the photo's period because you will never see anything but another white truck.

I know people who have been in LE in all aspects for many many years. They hire experts to take stills of each frame of a video and they use several types of programs to clarify the images. They want to see every blade of grass if they are able. So if someone here has the skills and capability that these experts do to clarify these images then i want to see them! Seriously, what does it hurt? Of course, they need to be labeled with what type of alterations were made.

Guess it bothers me that members are so against some of the very minor alterations that have been made. Cropping, enlarging and changing the
contrast does NOT change what is in the image. It makes it clearer.

I don't know a single poster who is against enlarging or sharpening the photos. I think some of the pictures we have seen posted went beyond that. For instance, there is not a hole in the windshield of the photo of the truck which LE released.

Just curious; IS Charlene shunik off of Facebook now? It used to be that you could click on her page and get info.
Maybe she has taken it down?

Her FB is alive and well!

 

[dice410]

"your link" being the link you posted in your response. And at the time I was on my Ipad and didn't see the DWT in the LCG turn lane. I see it now.

And it's difficult to see how LE could claim the DWT in the turn lane on St. Landry is the same as the one on Univ considering the bed cover is apparently evident on the Univ photo but not the St. Landry photo. Also, you can see what appears to be a gas cap on the St. Landry photo but not the Univ photo. And the Univ photo doesn't look like an American made truck.

The bed cover is CLEARLY gone once the truck goes to turn left on University from St. Landry....these are NOT the same...the truck w/ the bed cover / tinted windows is a Ford F250

 

[charminglane]

Even Mickey's family has not been talking about the white truck...they may have already been advised it has been ruled out. You'd think they would be posting about it daily if it was truly the clue everyone assumes it to be, JMO.

That is a VERY valid point, cluciano--thank you for posting that.

 

[katydid23]

When working with photo editing programs, there is a button - One step photo fix. It automatically adds color to a photo but it also sharpens it a bit as well. The good thing about it adding color is it can also delineate shapes. I will be the first to admit that I cannot see certain things that others see in the pictures.
Most of us who worked with the photos did so only because we felt it was a way we could contribute to help to find Mickey. LE has other things going on besides Mickey's case. However, if it helps Mickey more to sit here and criticize the work of others who were only trying to help, then that's fine too.

Yes, it adds color. But not necessarily the true colors. Just because a shirt may show up as 'teal' it does not mean it actually was teal in real life. So these photo enhancements may be taking us all off track, imo.

 

[BunnyHop]

These are clearly 2 different vehicles.

Look at the front windows, door handles etc................

:rocker::rocker::rocker:

 

[dice410]

These are clearly 2 different vehicles.

Look at the front windows, door handles etc................

:rocker::rocker::rocker:

Ford F250 / Silverado or GMC Texas Edition