LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #28

[Island hopper]

Usually with most cases on here, theorizing is fine, but I would think that those theories have to have at least some basis of fact or evidence that collaborates the theory. If not, we can start throwing alien abduction theories out there.

:abduction:

It's my opinion that alien abduction is unlikely but I respect ALL opinions. If we only relied on the very limited facts we were given then there would be a lot of possibilities excluded. There are very few theories I believe anyway...I think she was hit by a car or truck either accidentally or intentionally and whoever hit her either took her to cover the accident or abducted her for whatever purpose. To me it is all about figuring out who did this so her family can have her back.

 

[Angree Cajon]

Hello?? I work in films And i am not a make-up artist. Highways and entire sections of cities are shut down all the time. I just worked with TC the day he flew into Baton Rouge and I can assure you, his films and many others I have worked on do cause a lot of traffic and deadlock.

Again, this thread is here for members to find out what happened to Mickey. As there is little evidence and no recent updates, all people have to do is hypothesize on every tidbit of info we can come across. It can't all be right of course but who is to say that some idea you think is crazy isn't what solves everything? If you discount every item you mentioned then the only thing anyone will be able to post every day is "where is Mickey" with no one responding.

I respect your husband's opinion as an LEO or just a person giving an opinion. But that is all any of us have with possibly the exception of ACI...and that is an opinion.

Thank you for your honesty...and you're so right, this IS to FIND MICKEY & that's why I've been so frustrated over the DWT. It's just a VOI; with LE not releasing if the driver HAS indeed been found, then the rest is speculation. I have respect for ACI; who is a "foot soldier" in this case, & I want to say THANKS for your work. I hoped that the Lake Charles area would get up more groups to go...I know a last minute (& I mean last minute) group did go but they ended up @ an area searched 3xs. I know, it does pay to go back over your areas, but there was so much foot traffic.

This is also to those re: JD8... There is a discussion group on here for them.

 

[Jefferson]

OK I've complained about the lack of information LE has provided to the public and about the press' failure to ask questions. So here I want to go through the different camera angles and why it would be important for LE to release either the video of each or the photo frames (if the camera had photos and not continued video). And the questions I still have. If anyone can answer I'd appreciate it.

First is the camera at Midsouth Bank on Versailles:

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Sorry about the size. Photo comes directly from the LPD's website.

If the video or more photos from this camera were released, we could determine if the DWT was following her or if any vehicle was following, if there was a person or persons near the car on the right and if the car moved after Mickey passed and possibly the make and model of the car. We could also see what the big white blob is covering to the left, if at anything.

 

[Jefferson]

Here we have the camera from the 200 block of St. Landry:

It's from the first business after the LCG's building on St. Landry. There is only one street between this camera and the LCG camera which is Brashear.

We see the old car and what appears to be a DWT eastbound (which we can assume is the DWT in the turn lane shown in the LCG photo). There has never been another photo released.

Do we know for certain if Mickey was not seen by this camera? Do we know for certain if the westbound DWT was ever seen in this photo. If neither was seen, then we can assume both turned on Brashear. Release of the video or photos would tell us this and would give us additional shots of the eastbound DWT.

 

[jujube]

Yes, it adds color. But not necessarily the true colors. Just because a shirt may show up as 'teal' it does not mean it actually was teal in real life. So these photo enhancements may be taking us all off track, imo.

Never said it added true color, only that it added color.
They may be taking some off track but not others. Life is not a one size fits all.

 

[kgeaux]

When working with photo editing programs, there is a button - One step photo fix. It automatically adds color to a photo but it also sharpens it a bit as well. The good thing about it adding color is it can also delineate shapes. I will be the first to admit that I cannot see certain things that others see in the pictures.
Most of us who worked with the photos did so only because we felt it was a way we could contribute to help to find Mickey. LE has other things going on besides Mickey's case. However, if it helps Mickey more to sit here and criticize the work of others who were only trying to help, then that's fine too.

I think it is unacceptable to add random color and then present that color as being in the photos LE released. I think it unacceptable to change the photos in such a way to make the windshield appear to be busted, thereby falsely strengthening the supposition that Mickey was hit by the truck.

I do believe it is possible that someone "changed" the photo without any intention to deceive and mislead, but the change DID mislead and deceive.

And, IMO, that needed to be pointed out.

 

[kgeaux]

Never said it added true color, only that it added color.
They may be taking some off track but not others. Life is not a one size fits all.

It certainly misled every person who thought they were seeing a person wearing a blue shirt!

 

[kgeaux]

Here we have the camera from the 200 block of St. Landry:

It's from the first business after the LCG's building on St. Landry. There is only one street between this camera and the LCG camera which is Brashear.

We see the old car and what appears to be a DWT eastbound (which we can assume is the DWT in the turn lane shown in the LCG photo). There has never been another photo released.

Do we know for certain if Mickey was not seen by this camera? Do we know for certain if the westbound DWT was ever seen in this photo. If neither was seen, then we can assume both turned on Brashear. Release of the video or photos would tell us this and would give us additional shots of the eastbound DWT.

LE stated that the still pic of Mickey by the circle k is from the video in which Mickey is last seen.

 

[jujube]

I think it is unacceptable to add random color and then present that color as being in the photos LE released. I think it unacceptable to change the photos in such a way to make the windshield appear to be busted, thereby falsely strengthening the supposition that Mickey was hit by the truck.

I do believe it is possible that someone "changed" the photo without any intention to deceive and mislead, but the change DID mislead and deceive.

And, IMO, that needed to be pointed out.

I'm not talking about manipulating the photo in order to change what is there. LE themselves said they "enhanced" the photos.

 

[Island hopper]

The truck is on St. Landry St. Is this the pic you thought was not included? Or is there some other pic you are referring to?

I'm unsure what you mean by 'included' but I am talking the two trucks in question as being the same or not

 

[Darcyline]

The one thing that has made me uncomfortable is people altering the photos and then those photos becoming the official photos. I have seen multiple times in this post a user altering an "official" photo that has already been altered by other posters and the result just cannot be accurate if you have multiple people altering the same photo with only one ever working from the actual original. I just feel like we need to keep in mind the originals and put HUGE BLINKING CAPTIONS on every significantly altered photo especially if it does stuff like outline faces in blobs or add color or break windshields.

 

[Jefferson]

Here are the LCG photos:

If we had the video or more shots we could more clearly see if the DWT turn lane truck is the same as the DWT following MS or if its the same as the one on Univ. We could also see if it passed before MS or after MS.

We would also see the old car and whether there were 2 or 3 cars at circle k. If 3 then we'd know the DWT in the turn lane is the same as the DWT heading east in the 200 block of St. Landry photo b/c the turn lane DWT has 3 cars at Circle K.

Again, I can understand LE's reasons for playing it close to the vest but this case is about to go cold. And I could give you a few stories about experiences I have had with the LPD and believe me, it would not give you confidence in them. But we've been warned not to bash LE.

I just wish that the press or the family or Abdella could persuade LE to be more forthcoming or at least to give a press conference. Anything.

 

[jujube]

LE stated that the still pic of Mickey by the circle k is from the video in which Mickey is last seen.

Some where on one of the 28 threads, a poster with LE contacts, said they were told by LE that there is later footage. They have not been able to view it though. The Circle K picture is the last one LE released.

 

[Jefferson]

LE stated that the still pic of Mickey by the circle k is from the video in which Mickey is last seen.

I've seen people say that here but I've never seen any story or press release where this has been said. And if this is the case, what about the DWT?

If the LCG photo is the last we see of MS and the last we see of the DWT (meaning neither is on the 200 block of St. Landry) then there is a very good chance the DWT is involved because it would be an extreme coincidence for both to turn on Brashear considering that is not an often traveled street.

If the DWT is seen on the 200 block of St. Landry but not MS, then it would lead to the chance that the DWT is probably not involved (unless it turned and on a later street and caught up with her).

Again, the lack of information and the lack of questioning does not help the public aid in this investigation.

 

[kgeaux]

I'm not talking about manipulating the photo in order to change what is there. LE themselves said they "enhanced" the photos.

The photos WERE manipulated in such a way that it DID change what was there. Suddenly there is a driver with or without a Mohawk, dreads, a bald head, a backwards baseball cap, wearing a blue shirt which may or may not button down, with or without a t-shirt underneath. This driver, who cannot be seen in the photos enhanced by LE is now accompanied by a passenger, who also may or may not be wearing a blue shirt, etc., who may or may not be a woman with a bob, or a huge man with his ear up against the headrest. There is also seen a dog whose head takes up the entire back passenger window! Oh, and the windshield is now busted!

It resulted in a worthless spinning of wheels which does nothing to help Mickey, and may even hinder the search if even one person believes we are now looking for a truck with a busted windshield, and discounts calling in a truck lacking that (completely fictionalized) detail.

There is enhancement, and there is manipulation.

 

[Isabelle]

Some where on one of the 28 threads, a poster with LE contacts, said they were told by LE that there is later footage. They have not been able to view it though. The Circle K picture is the last one LE released.

If the picture of Micky in front of the Circle K is the last one taken of her, are there cameras that would have captured her in the next block or two? If there are and she wasn't captured on video and the truck wasn't captured on video again, they would have had to turn off that street.

If there were no video cameras in the following blocks in the direction Mickey and the truck were traveling, here is no way of knowing where what may have happened or what direction was taken.

 

[kgeaux]

Some where on one of the 28 threads, a poster with LE contacts, said they were told by LE that there is later footage. They have not been able to view it though. The Circle K picture is the last one LE released.

Jujube, that poster said the video from the Martin and Castille funeral home had captured Mickey. The only problem with that is that there are NO cameras at the funeral home.

 

[Isabelle]

Given that the dogs came in so late after Micky was going, there was no way to try and track her from the point where she was last seen on video. This is do da.n frustrating!

 

[Isabelle]

What kind of vehicle does BW drive?

 

[jujube]

Jujube, that poster said the video from the Martin and Castille funeral home had captured Mickey. The only problem with that is that there are NO cameras at the funeral home.

It was not the Martin and Castille post.