LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #28

[Ivorywolf]

All of those girls were connected; lemme clear that up, many of the girls had the same "baby daddy" or "baby daddy" was bf/pimp to girls.

This idea is probably the reason why the case hasn't been solved yet. It's obvious they are all linked, but what if the link is they were easy targets. They died over a fairly large time frame. If it were drug or baby daddy related, wouldn't they have been closer together? If I were a Bundy-type serial killer, I'd want to go back where there isn't pressure to solve the case.

What has never been mentioned was the death of a woman, who ran w/these girl (she was killed in a car accident) & her hubby (girl in car accident...we'll call her "Mom of 3") Mo3s body was found to be very, very intoxicated...she had just left one of the JD8's family's home

There's a very large difference between driving drunk and killing yourself in a car accident and being found nude and murdered in a canal.

Sierra was originally from Houma (replicator due to Katrina) or Bayou LaFourche

Yes, but she was killed in Lake Charles area. That's about an hour away. There's another unsolved murder in Houma (about 45 minutes away)with the woman being dumped in a swamp. Alexandria is an easy 1 hour drive from Lafayette, so I think the missing women there could be relevant, and I counted 10 different cases of nude or partially nude women's bodies found dumped in Houston. These are also plausibly connected- particularly if there is some type of oilfield worker link.

If I look at it from that perspective- targets of opportunity in or near areas accessible to major highways near oilfield cities, it makes sense to me that there could be some type of serial killer.

Serial killers are also generally highly intelligent Sociopaths. Many avoid detection for a long time because they are smart enough to hide the clues, and to travel.

In Mickey's case, the white truck, to me, screams oilfiled. I know National Oilwell Varco and a few other service companies use Z-71 truck.

 

[dice410]

IMO, they dumped the bike after leaving Mickey elsewhere...not "hidden away" but most likely deceased, sorry to say. Leaving the bike would be the final bit of evidence to get rid of. If Mickey was alive and so well-hidden, why not keep the bike with her? The bike is the least of their worries if the "hiding place" is discovered.

Sadly, I agree...

 

[Jefferson]

IMO, they dumped the bike after leaving Mickey elsewhere...not "hidden away" but most likely deceased, sorry to say. Leaving the bike would be the final bit of evidence to get rid of. If Mickey was alive and so well-hidden, why not keep the bike with her? The bike is the least of their worries if the "hiding place" is discovered.

Unless the perp was heading out of town with MS tied in the back seat and he needed to get rid of the bike.

 

[chicken fried]

IMO, they dumped the bike after leaving Mickey elsewhere...not "hidden away" but most likely deceased, sorry to say. Leaving the bike would be the final bit of evidence to get rid of. If Mickey was alive and so well-hidden, why not keep the bike with her? The bike is the least of their worries if the "hiding place" is discovered.

I agree with your logic, except if the bike was put there as a ruse.

The problem with the ruse theory is that the bike would have been under 2-3 feet of water if it were dumped right away, due to the river stage at the time. Someone throwing it in as a ruse would have left it visible.

On the other hand.... if the bike were dumped the night before it was found
, and it being partially out of the water after being thrown, and then discovered the next morning, it could have been a ruse.

The only way to sort this out would be to know how throughly that area was searched, and when - to determine if the searchers should have found it if it were there.

I am not convinced it was dumped the same night, though LE has said they think this is the case.

 

[charminglane]

Also, maybe on OTHER video somewhere, BW and Mickey pass by the DWTIQ on their route.
I am grasping at straws-however-I am not finding images that are not there.

 

[kgeaux]

Well, regardless...we KNOW taht is Mickey in front of the Circle K... you think he bought Taco Bell with HER card and she got mad and left w/ out eating????

No, I don't think she left without eating, however I don't know that he didn't use her card.

Man, ask a simple question.

Sorry if I misunderstood. I thought you expressed an interest in the car, not the card.

Yes, Mickey used her debit card. Confirmed by her father and LE.

 

[Le Singe]

this is OT but i saw this guy brought up somewhere in one of the almost 30 threads...

Authorities say a man who claimed to have been the victim of a drive-by shooting in Montana confessed to shooting himself, The Associated Press reported.

Ray Dolin, 39, of West Virginia, told police he was walking along U.S. 2 near Glasgow when a pickup pulled over and the driver rolled down his window and shot him in the arm. Dolin, a freelance photographer, said he had been hitchhiking across the country working on a memoir titled "The Kindness of America" when the incident happened.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/15/12240711-police-hitchhiker-writing-the-kindness-of-america-confesses-to-shooting-himself?lite

 

[charminglane]

pparently there is video of Mickey and Brettly going through the Taco Bell drive thru. Here's Nancy Grace:
Quote:
We`ve contacted Taco Bell. We learned that video shows corroboration that she was there, driving through that evening.
Quote:
Very quickly, to you, Chief Craft. Again, thank you for being with us. I know that you have obtained surveillance video from Taco Bell. You can see the car with Brettly in it driving through. It`s my understanding you can`t get a good shot of her, but her ATM confirms she was there. They used it for the order. So we know she was there, correct?

CRAFT: That`s correct. We were able to see him in the video shot, but we can`t see her. But her ATM card was used there. And we have information from a friend -- in that conversation, she said, We just went to Taco Bell, went to pick up something to eat.

GRACE: And on that video, you may also look toward the tail end of it, when they get the food, Brettly turning to her, handing her food, gearing (ph) it (ph) to further corroborate it.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../24/ng.01.html

So here's more evidence not released.

This is still assuming in my book. Many people use each others atm cards.
I want to know what car BW drives.

 

[charminglane]

I am not sleuthing BW--I am wondering if they were followed to/from Taco Bell.

 

[Jefferson]

This is still assuming in my book. Many people use each others atm cards.
I want to know what car BW drives.

Because there is a video of BW in the drive in with someone in the passenger seat, because we know he used her card and because MS told her friend she went with BW to taco bell, I think we can safely assume she was with him at Taco Bell.

And nothing from seeing BW in videos lead me to believe he is involved or is lying.

 

[LafayetteMom]

Yes, but she was killed in Lake Charles area. That's about an hour away. There's another unsolved murder in Houma (about 45 minutes away)with the woman being dumped in a swamp. Alexandria is an easy 1 hour drive from Lafayette, so I think the missing women there could be relevant, and I counted 10 different cases of nude or partially nude women's bodies found dumped in Houston. These are also plausibly connected- particularly if there is some type of oilfield worker link.

Not trying to get into the SK theories, but this just caught my eye. You'd have to be sticking the pedal to the metal to get there that fast. I drive there often. It's more like an hour a half.

 

[kgeaux]

pparently there is video of Mickey and Brettly going through the Taco Bell drive thru. Here's Nancy Grace:
Quote:
We`ve contacted Taco Bell. We learned that video shows corroboration that she was there, driving through that evening.
Quote:
Very quickly, to you, Chief Craft. Again, thank you for being with us. I know that you have obtained surveillance video from Taco Bell. You can see the car with Brettly in it driving through. It`s my understanding you can`t get a good shot of her, but her ATM confirms she was there. They used it for the order. So we know she was there, correct?

CRAFT: That`s correct. We were able to see him in the video shot, but we
can`t see her. But her ATM card was used there. And we have information from a friend -- in that conversation, she said, We just went to Taco Bell, went to pick up something to eat.

GRACE: And on that video, you may also look toward the tail end of it, when they get the food, Brettly turning to her, handing her food, gearing (ph) it (ph) to further corroborate it.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../24/ng.01.html

So here's more evidence not released.
This is still assuming in my book. Many people use each others atm cards.
I want to know what car BW drives.

Brettly DID use her card in the sense that he is the one who handed the card to the TB employee. Mickey was on the phone at the time of the purchase, and again at Brettly's house saying she was buying/was eating Taco Bell.

We KNOW Mickey was in Brettly's car! That is verified through her phone conversations.

I am sure I am not the only one on this forum who knows what car BW drives, but I am NOT going to post it. We are not allowed to sleuth him!

 

[Ivorywolf]

Not trying to get into the SK theories, but this just caught my eye. You'd have to be sticking the pedal to the metal to get there that fast. I drive there often. It's more like an hour a half.

They raised the speed limit Also- many Sk's travel. Bundy killed in 4 states, DTL in more than 1 city- they do travel more than 1 hr.

BTW-Info- Christina Spence- Missing South Crowley, LA- 14 hours ago.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/FindChristinaSpence

 

[Lauren3432]

Do we know what happened to the bike Shawn Hornbeck was on when he was snatched? It said his kidnapper bought him a new bike later that year, but what did he do with the original?

 

[Indy Anna]

Please note...it took a "beat down" to get this answer which was half-a**ed. If it had NOT been mentioned about the grips (being found separate) or however it was worded, no one would have EVER know that the grips were indeed removed. Someone tried to dismembered the bike & failed (that's my take on it). And if someone had the time to mess with the tips then what else could have been done? Chain removed? Seat removed? I know that the cops here in LC find bikes all the time; I've seen them hanging in a cage, waiting to either be claimed or evidence.

BBM
Is it possible that the grips were removed by the perp, hoping that the hollow handle bars would fill with water and sink the bike so it wouldn't be found?

 

[yupikgirl]

I saw that video from taco bell...can't remember exactly where (it was on my tv not online). It was Jane velez or nancy grace that showed it on their show.

ETA I had a point here, but can't remember what it was..sorry LOL

 

[kgeaux]

If I look at it from that perspective- targets of opportunity in or near areas accessible to major highways near oilfield cities, it makes sense to me that there could be some type of serial killer.

Serial killers are also generally highly intelligent Sociopaths. Many avoid detection for a long time because they are smart enough to hide the clues, and to travel.

In Mickey's case, the white truck, to me, screams oilfiled. I know National Oilwell Varco and a few other service companies use Z-71 truck.

Snipped a bit!

I agree that there are oilfield companies use four door white trucks, not necessarily the Chevy Z71.

Most of them are going to be easily identifiable, because they are usually marked with the name of the company in a highly visible manner.

I do not think Mickey's disappearance is linked in any way to the Jennings murders. Those poor women were easily found, not hidden away.

 

[LafayetteMom]

They raised the speed limit Also- many Sk's travel. Bundy killed in 4 states, DTL in more than 1 city- they do travel more than 1 hr.

BTW-Info- Christina Spence- Missing South Crowley, LA- 14 hours ago.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/FindChristinaSpence

I know the speed limit is 75 now part of the way there. (Like I said, I drive there often. I have family who lives there. I also have family who lives halfway b/t here and Alexandria) I still couldn't "easily" make it there in an hour without getting a ticket on the way. My cousin drives from there to down here in about an hour, but she gets tickets!

eta: I am also familiar with Christina Spence b/c I was attempting to start a thread here about her. However, the mod I spoke to agreed it might be best if we hold off, since she has contacted the Baton Rouge PD saying she's not missing, and her disapperance appears to be related to her recent marriage to a man she has a history of domestic violence with.

 

[cluciano63]

I agree with your logic, except if the bike was put there as a ruse.

The problem with the ruse theory is that the bike would have been under 2-3 feet of water if it were dumped right away, due to the river stage at the time. Someone throwing it in as a ruse would have left it visible.

On the other hand.... if the bike were dumped the night before it was found
, and it being partially out of the water after being thrown, and then discovered the next morning, it could have been a ruse.

The only way to sort this out would be to know how throughly that area was searched, and when - to determine if the searchers should have found it if it were there.

I am not convinced it was dumped the same night, though LE has said they think this is the case.

If he had someplace safe to go, why stop off and leave the bike? Risk being seen doing that? At that point, no one even knew Mickie, or a bike was missing. I really think the bike was placed there later, at least the next day, in hopes that LE would figure Mickey was there at WB too. And I believe WB was used so that a "serial killer" would be the first thing many people thought of, or at least a "professional criminal", whereas in fact perhaps this person is neither. JMO

 

[Ivorywolf]

Snipped a bit!

I agree that there are oilfield companies use four door white trucks, not necessarily the Chevy Z71.

My ex-husband drives a 2012 Chevy Z71- white, 4 door. It's a NOV company truck. SeaTrax Crane also has white Chevy Z71's in their parking lot. I drive past there on the way to work 5 days a week. None of the trucks have company logos, just the stock Z71 stickers.