LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #28

[wenderella]

I am sure that something along those lines is exactly what happened!

These are not in the correct sequence. Mickey rides past Circle K at 1:47. The white z71 follows behind her at 1:48. Then the white trucks passes going in the opposite direction turning left presumably. Cannot quote me on this but I think it was about 5 minutes later. Does anyone know?

Why is the picture of Mickey passing the Circle K so clear, yet the truck photo looks so distorted? Is the truck moving faster?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Why is the picture of Mickey passing the Circle K so clear, yet the truck photo looks so distorted? Is the truck moving faster?

They looked equally unclear to me. JMO.

 

[RTC]

I think he said an emergency.

Well that is truly strange and could add a wierd twist since he got home somehwere near the time frame Mickey should have. no?? I know he is a victim but everything needs to be accounted for. Most Dads attend graduation unless of course he was helping cops look for Mickey which was a freaking emergency!!!

 

[jujube]

Why is the picture of Mickey passing the Circle K so clear, yet the truck photo looks so distorted? Is the truck moving faster?

That's a question for LE. It "appears" that the truck's brake lights are on so I don't know how fast it was going. I did not get this from any picture enhancing except LE's. Note how bright the rear lights are.

 

[Island hopper]

I keep asking myself what is the most simple way to explain how Mickey vanished. I can not think of any. Every scenario I have read or thought of is complicated.
-Being hit in front of Circle K---That assumes LE released a photo of the accident, that none of the people at Circle K heard or noticed anything, it was a bloodless accident and more.
-The theory of a drunk driver might be the most logical and simple. The problems I see with that are that nothing was found, no bike parts or blood. And, dumping the bike at WS does not seem to fit with that.
-My first theory (that I hope is wrong) is that someone fixated on her and planned this well, knew where the cameras were in advance and dropped the bike as a taunt.
-My second theory is that a perp(s) drove by her and decided to take her spur of the moment and got lucky that there were no cameras around and got lucky that they did not leave any evidence behind when they got her.

Take a google look at bicycle accidents. Quite often they are bloodless accidents or with very little blood. Even some of the fatalities....there is no blood. Or if a person ends up on the hood of a car, the evidence leaves the scene with the car.

Who knows, there could be blood evidence and no one has found it.

 

[justwannahelp]

Would be nice to see them on a map with dates and arrows directing the order of events.

ETA: like a 'connect the dot' on a map.

what cities did each girl disappear from?

 

[slowlybutshelly]

These are not in the correct sequence. Mickey rides past Circle K at 1:47. The white z71 follows behind her at 1:48. Then the white trucks passes going in the opposite direction turning left presumably. Cannot quote me on this but I think it was about 5 minutes later. Does anyone know?

I doubt 5 minutes was the time frame. A third car appears in another photo. Would the two other cars in the circle K be hanging out for 5 minutes? 5 minutes seems like a long time to be at a gas station. IMHO....

 

[Island hopper]

Would be nice to see them on a map with dates and arrows directing the order of events.

ETA: like a 'connect the dot' on a map.

There is somewhere out there in google land. I came across it but didn't take too much of a look.

 

[Amster]

Well that is truly strange and could add a wierd twist since he got home somehwere near the time frame Mickey should have. no?? I know he is a victim but everything needs to be accounted for. Most Dads attend graduation unless of course he was helping cops look for Mickey which was a freaking emergency!!!

What?? :waitasec:

He came home on Sunday.....:what:

 

[Island hopper]

Could all this have happened in 4 minutes? I don't remember where I got that timeline, but it seems to be the timeline people I have discussed in public with people.

Yes... Because of the timeline. When the story originally came out in my area, Nancy Grace perhaps, it seemed implied that she passed the Circle K at 1:47. The white truck at 1:48. I feel like we were led to believe that the same truck passed again going in the opposite direction within 3-4 minutes. Being that it was the last time she was seen...seemed logical that the truck either hit or grabbed her that fast.

 

[RTC]

Here's the timeline: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203177667984633076348.0004c12cae7cc5698843c&msa=0

This is awesome, especially for us out of towners. Why wouldnt M just take Congress home, looks like a straight shot?


In the Lauren Spierer case there was a detailed map created by a member and it showed all potential camera locations by street. It was awesome. Unfortuantely not the smoking gun but it helped build a time frame scenario. Maybe that should be protocol with the Missing. That is how the public can help by identifying the surrounding area and looking for potential video coverage and encouraging the bus or res to hand it over to the authorities. It is in everybody's best interest since it is a community. The cops are busy so instead of bashing them they should give the community tasks that help but wont impede the prosecution process.

 

[LaffySleuth]

Alright, been gone all day. My post this morning was very short and I need to say something that maybe hasn't been said.

We are looking at 3 different white trucks. Yes, I know. Worst fear ever = confirmed.

The one on St. Landry looks like a Ford Ranger.

The one in front of Circle K looks like a Chevy/GMC 2500HD/3500HD Non-Dually.

The one in front of LCG is the 2009 - 2011 Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71 I've been MobyDicking.

My main issue with this, and most others, is if you want an ID...you have to tell us what to look for. I've heard a lot of different stories about how these VOIs came forward and were ruled out. I've read ONE not two white trucks were eliminated.

I know I can't be nuts here. I've looked at these photos, and looked at the products in person. I've taken a billion pictures of the trucks (dealership) in person. You can't expect me to believe that two of those trucks are the same, because they're not.

Currently, I am assembling a cornucopia of facts to which I will have accompanying photos. Then and only then, maybe LE will come forward and say, "Maybe there is a third truck."

 

[jujube]

I doubt 5 minutes was the time frame. A third car appears in another photo. Would the two other cars in the circle K be hanging out for 5 minutes? 5 minutes seems like a long time to be at a gas station. IMHO....

It could take several minutes. The people don't have a credit card and have to go in to pay for gas but there are people ahead of them, maybe they have to use the bathroom, buy cigarettes, something to drink, plus pump gas, etc. There could be many reasons why the cars would still be there.

 

[wenderella]

That's a question for LE. It "appears" that the truck's brake lights are on so I don't know how fast it was going. I did not get this from any picture enhancing except LE's. Note how bright the rear lights are.

If the break lights were on..either something happened? or the truck was slowing down to see if they knew anyone hanging out at the Circle K-which would mean that that truck had to be local...thinking out loud.

 

[jujube]

If the break lights were on..either something happened? or the truck was slowing down to see if they knew anyone hanging out at the Circle K-which would mean that that truck had to be local...thinking out loud.

Again, many reasons, maybe they were unfamiliar with where to turn, thinking they might need gas, etc, or yes, something might have happened.

 

[Island hopper]

That is really scary! I would have taken the phone and package it came in to LE and demanded it be tested for fingerprints. If he knows how to send it to you he would also know how to find you. Be careful Please!

That is exactly why I didn't. I remember everything and am quite observant. He told me three major things...his first name, the city he lives in and the type of product he sells. That was enough for me to track him down. I know more about him than he does me at this point! I have the envelope put away. It does baffle me as to why he returned the phone.

If he lived locally I would have contacted LE. But...knowing there is nothing they will do other than question him, left it alone. Maybe I got lucky that night. Don't want to aggravate him or remind him of me.

 

[chicken fried]

The fact, as far as we know it here, is that MS was not seen again after that pic of her in front of Circle K. Full stop.

There's no evidence or anything to indicate she is NOT under truck, right? There's even less to indicate she's NOT under the truck than there is to indicate she (or something) IS under the truck.

I disagree that there is more evidence that points toward the truck running Mickey over, than not.

On the side of Mickey not being under the truck:

1. The laws of physics.

2. Luminol applied by A.C.I, who personally inspected the asphalt.

3. The idea of LE releasing to the public a still of Mickey under truck.

4. The idea of the family seeing her run over and acting like they are.

5. The idea of completely concealing from the public that a truck ran her over, instead of coming out and saying, "hey, this truck ran Mickey over - we need to find it!

6. The people at the gas station hearing/seeing nothing.

7. The distortion caused by the plexiglass globe surrounding the camera.

8. The distortion from taking a still frame from the low-budget video system that makes the front part of the truck abruptly higher - evidenced by the broken line of the front of the roof above the windshield.

9. The pristine, freshly laid asphalt without a single scratch, which I personally inspected.

10. The fact that LE is not loudly splashing that truck everywhere, and telling people to look for damage.

On the side of Mickey being under the truck:

1. Looking at a badly pixelated, distorted still frame from a video - NOT from a still camera.

 

[Labikegirl]

I thought that asking about the grips was odd to begin with, then was even more confused by the vague answers from LE. I have also noticed that the condition of the bike has been described as anything from some damage to the back tire to mangled at different times. I am thinking that the questions about the grips were to probe about possible damage from being hit/run over by a vehicle of some sort.

Could grips get mangled'/come off if bike scooted across the concrete? Oh man, it almost makes me want to risk a heated discussion and email an old friend who is a bicycle mechanic.

LA

 

[who knew?]

To me, the simplest explanation is that Mickey was approached by someone she was familiar with, and either accepted a ride or was caught off guard by a ruse or trick to get her into the vehicle. That is the only easy way I can explain no evidence being found.

And actually, I am not a hundred percent convinced that a vehicle was initially involved! People do live along that route, and if she was familiar with a resident of the area, she could have stopped to chat and been tricked onto going indoors. The bike could have been loaded into a vehicle later for disposal.

I'm not married to any particular scenario, however. I am finding it easier to rule scenarios out rather than in!

ITA with your first scenario. But your second scenario makes a lot of sense, too. It would be the easiest method for the perp, having privacy and time on his/her side.

 

[jujube]

Could grips get mangled'/come off if bike scooted across the concrete? Oh man, it almost makes me want to risk a heated discussion and email an old friend who is a bicycle mechanic.

LA

Thanks for posting this. It reminded me to ask someone who rides a bike. When my children were young and rode their bikes, they sometimes wanted to change the grips. Those suckers were hard as heck to remove. My husband had to use oil or WD-40 to get them off-I couldn't do it. Are the grips now easier to remove than they were back say 12-30 years ago?