LA - Officer fatally shoots Alton Sterling outside store, Baton Rouge, 2016

[Irish_Eyes]

Mzopinion, how long was it from the time they arrived on the scene until that occurred exactly? I missed that.

 

[ninij9]

Sterling's mother revealed to the media that Sterling had a prior history with police that included felony arrests. Court records show his arrest history includes:

9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
8/13/15 failure to register as a sex offender
4/08/16 failure to register as a sex offender
6/14/16 ecstacy and marijuana possession

http://www.wafb.com/story/32384244/sterling-shootingpolice-dispatch-tapes-obtained

This is the life that is supposed to matter so much that officers shouldn't have shot him and maybe one of them would have died? Um, not in the world I want to live in.

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[Dionysia]

Once again, none of those charges - and we don't know which of them he was convicted of - carry the penalty of death.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Once again, none of those charges - and we don't know which of them he was convicted of - carry the penalty of death.

Correct. I don't think anyone here has stated otherwise.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Once again, none of those charges - and we don't know which of them he was convicted of - carry the penalty of death.

I agree with you on that point and it's quite possible the officers didn't know who he was or anything about his record when they approached.

They did know they were called to the scene because he was brandishing a gun. If LE knows you are armed and not complying that is a recipe for disaster and that could certainly end in your death.

 

[bluesneakers]

KATC INVESTIGATES: Both Baton Rouge officers have prior use of force complaints

The two Baton Rouge police officers involved in the shooting death of Alton Sterling earlier this week were the subject of five internal affairs investigations, including three for use of force, according to documents obtained by our investigative team.

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The documents list three IA investigations for officer Blane Salamoni, a 4-year BRPD veteran, and two for Lake.

Salamoni was investigated for use of force during an arrest in August 2015. The subject of the arrest required stitches to close a head injury from Salamoni punching him several times. Salamoni said the person tried to take his taser, which ended in the altercation so the suspect would release his taser.

 

[tangelo]

KATC INVESTIGATES: Both Baton Rouge officers have prior use of force complaints



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you missed this bit

The officers were exonerated in all of the investigations

 

[Elley Mae]

Alton Sterling Arrest Record, Criminal History & Rap Sheet [DOCUMENTS]

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/alton...ke-shot-charges-video-youtube-facebook-watch/

eta, Sterling’s offense is described as committing “carnal knowledge of a juvenile.” He was convicted on September 20, 2000 in Louisiana and released on October 3, 2004.

 

[bluesneakers]

you missed this bit

10% rule.

 

[al66pine]

An Aug 11, 2015 affidavit stated AS' height as 5'11" and weight as 310 pounds, not a dainty build facing the 2 LEOs. JM2cts.
For our metric friends 180 centimeters & 140.6 kilograms.

Page 36 at https://www.scribd.com/document/317643395/AS-Court-Documents#fullscreen&from_embed

Other doc's, w prior dates, in same scribd doc, give his ht as 6 feet & wt as 300 pounds.

 

[Everyday Grace]

Muflahi released his video Wednesday afternoon through a lawyer, Joel Porter, who told The Advocate he kept it from police because he doesn’t trust them. Instead of giving up the potential evidence for police to use, Muflahi released the video to The Advocate, as well as to the FBI.

“There is additional footage,” Porter told The Advocate. “We’ll let Baton Rouge city police create a narrative, and then we will knock it down inch by inch.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/07/alton-sterling-videos/490283/

Porter also claimed more videos and witness accounts of the shooting have not yet been made public. He warned they will serve as a check on what local authorities tell the community about the shooting.

Neither video shows the events leading up to the officers’ takedown of Sterling. Baton Rouge police have provided few details. Muflahi has described the officers as aggressive.

Arthur “Silky Slim” Reed said the first video was shot by Stop the Killing Inc., a group he founded. He would not identify specifically who shot the first video, but said his group routinely tracks shootings in Baton Rouge for documentary work.

He said his crew was able to be at the scene of the shooting because they routinely track violence by listening to police scanner traffic and tapping his sources in the city.

He said his group is trying to raise awareness of violence in the black community among young people, whether it is by the police or is black-on-black crime.

http://theadvocate.com/news/1632891...lice-killing-of-alton-sterling-in-baton-rouge

 

[animlzrule]

Alton Sterling, Eric Garner and the double standard of the side hustle

"In cities where short-term rentals remain technically illegal, we don't typically think of Airbnb hosts as operating in a black market. Nor do we consider Uber drivers skirting the law — making, for instance, illegal airport runs — to be "hustling." But the kind of parallel activities Dash cites have been heavily criminalized, with the further help of anti-loitering laws. Black children selling candy bars come to be treated as criminals."

More at link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...double-standard-of-the-side-hustle/?tid=sm_tw

 

[bluesneakers]

Statement from President Obama:

All Americans should be deeply troubled by the fatal shootings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota. We've seen such tragedies far too many times, and our hearts go out to the families and communities who've suffered such a painful loss.

Although I am constrained in commenting on the particular facts of these cases, I am encouraged that the U.S. Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation in Baton Rouge, and I have full confidence in their professionalism and their ability to conduct a thoughtful, thorough, and fair inquiry.

But regardless of the outcome of such investigations, what's clear is that these fatal shootings are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of the broader challenges within our criminal justice system, the racial disparities that appear across the system year after year, and the resulting lack of trust that exists between law enforcement and too many of the communities they serve.

To admit we've got a serious problem in no way contradicts our respect and appreciation for the vast majority of police officers who put their lives on the line to protect us every single day. It is to say that, as a nation, we can and must do better to institute the best practices that reduce the appearance or reality of racial bias in law enforcement.
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Let's come together as a nation, and keep faith with one another, in order to ensure a future where all of our children know that their lives matter.​

More:
https://www.facebook.com/potus/posts/507884336068078

 

[animlzrule]

Statement from President Obama:

All Americans should be deeply troubled by the fatal shootings of Alton Sterling in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and Philando Castile in Falcon Heights, Minnesota. We've seen such tragedies far too many times, and our hearts go out to the families and communities who've suffered such a painful loss.

Although I am constrained in commenting on the particular facts of these cases, I am encouraged that the U.S. Department of Justice has opened a civil rights investigation in Baton Rouge, and I have full confidence in their professionalism and their ability to conduct a thoughtful, thorough, and fair inquiry.

But regardless of the outcome of such investigations, what's clear is that these fatal shootings are not isolated incidents. They are symptomatic of the broader challenges within our criminal justice system, the racial disparities that appear across the system year after year, and the resulting lack of trust that exists between law enforcement and too many of the communities they serve.

To admit we've got a serious problem in no way contradicts our respect and appreciation for the vast majority of police officers who put their lives on the line to protect us every single day. It is to say that, as a nation, we can and must do better to institute the best practices that reduce the appearance or reality of racial bias in law enforcement.
...
Let's come together as a nation, and keep faith with one another, in order to ensure a future where all of our children know that their lives matter.​

More:
https://www.facebook.com/potus/posts/507884336068078

And, as usual, he will be condemned and pilloried, and told HE is the reason for the racial divide and discrimination sweeping the country right now. SMH.

 

[Elley Mae]

It appears that there are 4 districts that are patrolled. If I am not mistaken police work the same district all the time, they may go to a different district but they will stay there. They don't change districts that they on different nights..

https://brgov.com/dept/brpd/csr/

Below is the store front, as you can see there are ppl on the corner with a red canopy selling/free phones.



https://www.google.com/maps/@30.468...4!1szXNvps2b_qoaWsg4bGO1fQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Sterling’s offense is described as committing “carnal knowledge of a juvenile.” He was convicted on September 20, 2000 in Louisiana and released on October 3, 2004.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/alton...ke-shot-charges-video-youtube-facebook-watch/

It's my opinion that they knew before they got there they knew who it was they would confront. The store owner said he (alton) had been coming there for 5-6 years selling wares, cd's video's, they were friends, he said. I have to believe that the police knew who he was, and that he was armed. He knew he was going to jail. jmo idk

 

[katydid23]

And, as usual, he will be condemned and pilloried, and told HE is the reason for the racial divide and discrimination sweeping the country right now. SMH.

Right, because he has given the same kind of impassioned speeches after cops have been killed during traffic stops too. :no:

 

[CARIIS]

This continues to shock me. After the first couple of times with cell phone videos, I truly thought that this would stop. Kept going - I thought LE must not be watching the news in this country. Time and time, and very few get arrested.

Its on camera, it is mindboggling to me. I had hoped that "cell phones" would result in LE being careful, would become aware that the way things had been done, was over. It they like it or not.

Obvously , I was wrong. All this looking into "details" for ever - anyone watching the video can SEE he was not be threatening - he had no gun, what is there to investigate for two years ?

What was he doing that deserved to be shot dead?


His criminal history , has nothing to do IMO with being shot to death.

Everyone can see improper use of force moo

 

[bluesneakers]

Right, because he has given the same kind of impassioned speeches after cops have been killed during traffic stops too. :no:

President Obama Honors Fallen Police Officers in D.C. Ceremony

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President Obama: Violence against police ‘is completely unacceptable’
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Obama awards Medal of Valor to 13 police officers

"We know that you wait up late and you’re worried and you're counting down the minutes until your loved one walks through the door safe after a long shift. We know it never gets easier, and we thank you for that," Obama said. "And of course we honor those who didn't come home, including one hero we honor posthumously today."

 

[CARIIS]

Alton Sterling Arrest Record, Criminal History & Rap Sheet [DOCUMENTS]

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/alton...ke-shot-charges-video-youtube-facebook-watch/

eta, Sterling’s offense is described as committing “carnal knowledge of a juvenile.” He was convicted on September 20, 2000 in Louisiana and released on October 3, 2004.

When I first read sexual offender it had impact, not in deserving to be shot to death, but an "image". Obviously the age difference makes it criminal, when you read more, it was a 7 month relationship -it was 17 years ago when he was 20.

Those are the facts, and imo have no bearing on being shot to death.

There are laws regarding age differences with a minor, thats good. There are laws againist police shooting people without justification - which is clearly seen on video.

If one wants to go into the past, well one of cops had been investigated for excessive force before. Does anyone know the race in the other inicident? I will find out.

I am confident we will find that inicdent was investigated internally, solely.

 

[animlzrule]

Right, because he has given the same kind of impassioned speeches after cops have been killed during traffic stops too. :no:

Of course he has, but then again, it hasn't been an equivalent problem during his terms. The problem we face now is POLICE violence perpetrated AGAINST citizens. Hence, the urgent calls for police reform in this era of police negligence, lawlessness and disregard for policing with integrity.

Fewer police killed during Obama's administration than any two-term president in our lifetime

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...n-than-any-two-term-President-in-our-lifetime