Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Curious Me]

If she solicited to have him murdered 7 months ago and maybe used a few people.why isn't he dead yet?Some thing is not right with this story.

:floorlaugh:

 

[DairyGirl]

Sorry SuziQ, I have no clue what the REAL reason is. I think Terri may have an obsessed hatred for kaine - a need for some kind of retribution, maybe due to her son needing to leave the home. If insurance policies were involved, important to remember they work both ways. I doubt Terri would get ins. money for Kyron, she is not the biological mom, Desiree is. moo

Yes, but Kyron could have been the main beneficiary and with him gone her (or her daughter) would get all the money. Unfortunately it is looking that way to me

Eta, also if she hates DY, which I believe that she does, she wants to make sure she gets none of the money.

 

[Sherbie]

From the KOIN article....

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton Sunday said he had "no comment" directly about the facts in the article, and he was "not sure how the information was obtained". However, Staton did imply that events could move quickly during the next few days. When asked for a timetable of upcoming developments, he told KOIN Local 6, "I should be able to answer a lot more questions this coming week. I've got a lot of decisions this coming week."

His wording makes me feel that the murder-for-hire plot was purposely leaked to the media in order to put more pressure on Terri, and his remarks above are designed to do the same.

Suddenly, he's going to start answering a lot more questions for the media this coming week? That's surely a change from the no-comment policy that's been in place all along. He has a lot of decisions to make, he says...perhaps including whether/what to charge someone with?

I think the leak and all he said are directed toward Terri, with the hope that she feels the squeeze so much that she finally cracks. Perhaps there's communication between the DA and her attorney as well. Maybe they're offering not to seek the harshest penalty at trial or are agreeing to a plea deal if she is willing to tell what she knows so they can find Kyron?

His comments are, IMO, designed to turn the heat up, to let her know they're not gonna pussyfoot around with her any longer; that things will be happening and happening soon, so if she wants any sort of consideration, she better spill it and fast.

 

[just]

I'm thinking if this was the other way around and the guy was the suspect (non person of interest of whatever), that we wouldn't have any sympathy at all, or be saying that he was suffering through hormonal changes, or anything else. I think that the female can be just as deadly as the male, and this case is a perfect example of that.

You are right on this. I personally have a bit more sympathy than for say a Ward Weaver only in that I doubt she was a SO, ya know? The men tend to be sooooo horrific in what they do to these babies. But I for one was upset that the preacher's wife used the high heel thing and I believe it worked, didn't it? Or Andrea Yates and the bathtub. I guess it's just so hard to believe that a woman, who by nature are nurturers, would do such a thing.

 

[eyes4crime]

There's no justification for planning to kill. I'm just thinking motive to the plot or to TH's defense might be a woman suffering through hormonal changes and a cheating husband flaunting his affair in her face threatening to take this new baby, and leaving her to care for his son while he's out cheating.

Remember the preacher's wife that killed him but got sympathy over the high heels shoes he made her wear. Anything can be used in a defense to gain sympathy.

I do remember the preacher's wife - no comment.lol

Hormones could have a play in this...early menapause? We don't know if Terri's request to murder her husband was sincere - no money exchanged hands and there wasn't a plan. So was it a big wish, something she investigated as being possible? Or was she going to carry it out?

I doubt she can stand her husband - he has a history of using his children against the woman he is with. I can't think of anything that would get a loving mom more outraged.

On the other hand, maybe Kaine's insurance policy interested Terri - and it became her incentive to get rid of him. This still doesn't answer the question of 'where is Kyron' because I would be shocked if she murdered him. She clearly is not a 'hands on murderer'. moo mho

 

[human]

I know that we are not supposed to sleuth the landscaper.

But someone beat me to the "cabana boy". They don't have a pool.

My hubby said on a show of Desperate Housewives someone was having an affair with the landscaper and someone was shot. He really doesn't watch it so he was sketchy on the details .

At any rate, I am really wondering if the landscaper is really attractive. Just for interest sake on my part.

I have to amuse myself a bit as I am living in an alternative universe right now, apparently, that is filled with one crazy thing to the next.

 

[Ada]

I have been trying to reach the end of this thread all day! It just keeps getting longer and longer. So I give up. Sorry if this has been posted already, way on down the line.

Several have mentioned getting a 'Balloon Boy' feel from this case. I have felt that too. Also mentioned has been, 'follow the money.'

This case has felt weird from the start, leading some to wonder if it is a hoax of some kind. Desiree's distress seems authentic to me. Tony's concern for his wife and for Kyron seem authentic. KH seems very stoic. Still not sure how authentic that is. TH seemed like a frightened animal. To me, it wasn't grief and it wasn't concern, it was fear.

So if this was a hoax of some sort, I don't believe it involves more than one of those four people (possibly 2 but I think more likely 1).

We have reports that there was a 'murder for hire' plot several months ago. Now Kyron is missing.


So going on that (MOO only):

1) Plan A, hit put out on KH for insurance money. Lawn guy doesn't bite and it falls through.

2) Plan B, hoax kidnapping for ransom. Partner takes Kyron. Ransom is delivered. Partner and TH divide ransom.

The money is the only thing about this case that makes sense to me. It would also explain the 'Balloon Boy' vibes.

And this is why Desiree says 'Kyron is alive' with such conviction, why she said 'we thought he'd be home by now (paraphrase), and, why she implores with TH to cooperate.

 

[human]

Can you please expand on your what you are thinking about the email? Without naming names ...what role did this other person at Intel have in this story?

I think it would be TOS for me to give my idea. I don''t want TOS.

I just thought the email was very strange and the topics of the email were strange. I thought it was kind of code like.

 

[eyes4crime]

Yes, but Kyron could have been the main beneficiary and with him gone her (or her daughter) would get all the money.

Unfortunately it is looking that way to me

I think I'm missing something, certainly not the first time! If Kyron is the main beneficiary, why wouldn't the money go to his bio mom? Why would the money for Kyron go to Terri? Or was this another game Kaine played with his children?

 

[Barry]

I wonder when the next shoe will be dropped.

Me too. I have a feeling there's a lot of surprises left here, from all parties involved.

 

[Sherbie]

High heels?

(humming Monty Python's "I'm a Lumberjack and I'm okay..."

"I sleep all night, and I work all day..." :dance:

 

[Curious Me]

I'm thinking if this was the other way around and the guy was the suspect (non person of interest of whatever), that we wouldn't have any sympathy at all, or be saying that he was suffering through hormonal changes, or anything else. I think that the female can be just as deadly as the male, and this case is a perfect example of that.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy could be suspect if he was having an affair I'd sure want LE to find out who he was having/had the affair with in the case of a missing child. LE must know all about the affair because even that would be important to finding Kyron. Was it still going on and was that woman crazy in love to frame TH?

Don't mind me. I can't stop this spinning.

 

[Haeve]

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I doubt she can stand her husband - he has a history of using his children against the woman he is with. I can't think of anything that would get a loving mom more outraged.

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If this is indeed true--and we have no idea what went on between DY and KH with their divorce, most of that is hearsay and ROs can be SOP in these cases--TH knew this about him when she got involved with him. Why change her mind about him now? Why have a child with a man who you know is capable of such a thing?

 

[Chili Fries]

If Terri had given the landscaper a little taste of what he would get after he killed Kaine then he might have not come forward because he didn't want his wife to find out.

 

[just]

I have been trying to reach the end of this thread all day! It just keeps getting longer and longer. So I give up. Sorry if this has been posted already, way on down the line.

Several have mentioned getting a 'Balloon Boy' feel from this case. I have felt that too. Also mentioned has been, 'follow the money.'

This case has felt weird from the start, leading some to wonder if it is a hoax of some kind. Desiree's distress seems authentic to me. Tony's concern for his wife and for Kyron seem authentic. KH seems very stoic. Still not sure how authentic that is. TH seemed like a frightened animal. To me, it wasn't grief and it wasn't concern, it was fear.

I agree wholeheartedly - TH was scared and guilty looking, KH has seemed all along like this was expected? Like he wants everyone to go away -now - that he's hiding something.

So if this was a hoax of some sort, I don't believe it involves more than one of those four people (possibly 2 but I think more likely 1).

We have reports that there was a 'murder for hire' plot several months ago. Now Kyron is missing.


So going on that (MOO only):

1) Plan A, hit put out on KH for insurance money. Lawn guy doesn't bite and it falls through.

2) Plan B, hoax kidnapping for ransom. Partner takes Kyron. Ransom is delivered. Partner and TH divide ransom.

The money is the only thing about this case that makes sense to me. It would also explain the 'Balloon Boy' vibes.

And this is why Desiree says 'Kyron is alive' with such conviction, why she said 'we thought he'd be home by now (paraphrase), and, why she implores with TH to cooperate.

I think you're onto something, but my thoughts are if plan A fell through, this woman would try for plan B with someone else but not alongside KH, and that's where we're at - plan B. I also think she's narcissist enough to believe that if she waits everything out, she'll be Scott free, because she has the Ace in the hole which is 'KH beats me" but if the LE is already exposing that, then there goes her blackmail for KH not telling the LE *everything* he knows, and I think he knows more...

 

[sleuthy sleutherson]

I don't know what would make her do this, hormones, mental issues, being a body builder maybe she used steroids?

I will say this, nothing would surprise me.

I personally have to deal with an unstable girl dating my son's father. Just two days ago my son and I went to have a visit with his father at grandpas house. She found out he was coming to visit his son and called the cops to tell them he was driving without a license and that I had a no contact order with him so it was illegal for him to be around my son and I and they needed to arrest him....not true, I have a order for him to disturb our peace as he has turned pretty nasty since meeting this . I called the police myself and told them the order is to not disturb our peace, it is not a no contact order which is what I have on his girlfriend for my son and I.

Point being, she would rather him go to JAIL then visit his own child :crazy:

 

[Mylou]

I assume its safe to say that the lawnman hasn't been working at the Horman Home as of late, considering the shape of their yard in an earlier article.
Wonder when his services were dismissed?

 

[Chablis]

I would also imagine that if she had known the landscaper for 7 months then there is a possibility that there is alot of phone activity between the 2 of them, this may have been more proof to LE that this guy was legit and not just some whackadoo wanting in the middle of a high profile case.

Exactly. And think how long its been since Kaine filed for divorce? About a week, and its been pretty silent on her end, she has to know Kaine knows about her exploits, I mean he didn't even know she was having a landscaping guy over to his house, and then he finds out she was planning on having him killed? I tend to think the cops had to have been pretty certain she really did this to inform Kaine. jmo

 

[GrainneDhu]

And this in no way explains the RO, not based on one person's word. Not charged, not proven, no way.

The standard of proof for getting a temporary (ex parte) restraining order is very low, deliberately so. All it requires is for the party applying for the order to make allegations of a certain type. The allegations do not have to be proven.

This is so that people who are the victims of domestic violence can get quick action on the part of the courts.

The person targeted by a temporary restraining order has the right to apply for a hearing on the order, which must be granted within a certain time (usually very short time). That hearing is where evidence must be supplied to prove the allegations made in the original application.

Although it is rare, people do lie in applying for ROs. And people can also be misled into applying for one.

The proper point to contest a restraining order is at the hearing after a temporary restraining order has been granted.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

If Terri had given the landscaper a little taste of what he would get after he killed Kaine then he might have not come forward because he didn't want his wife to find out.

Well,his wife knows now.Wonder if she is still there with him LOL.