Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[Kimster]

We can comment on a blogger but let's not carry it on too far. This is about the article on the first page of this thread. <steering everyone back on topic>

 

[Donjeta]

Whoever she is, she is supportive of the child who explicitly went against FBI orders and went public with the post 8.45 sighting of Kyron...(the now debunked sighting)

At the time the child made that statement I did an informal...non-scientific poll...and discovered not a single person who supported the Grandmother's decision to place her grandson in the spotlight.

Therefore,my logic, based admittedly on unscientific data, leads me to believe that the so-called psychic is likely someone closely related to the one person who thought ignoring the FBI was a good idea.

BTW her statements are internally inconsistent...and therefore totally unreliable to put it nicely.

He/she also says that the police don't want people to know that the baby was with Terri at the science fair. Gee, if that's so, don't you think there might be a REASON, such as differentiating true and false sightings of Terri that morning, and you maybe shouldn't post about it on a forum?

Earlier he/she says that the baby was with a babysitter.

 

[wondering1]

She asked a couple of other guys to kill KH, too? I missed that. Pleeze fill me in! thx

msm has reported that when the police told Kaine about lawn guy, they suggested to him that if she had done it once, she might do it again. And he left with the baby based on that conversation. The source was identified as a source "familiar with the conversation."

 

[Indianagirl]

I'm just REAL curious who tipped the LE off to this guy.

The way I understand it, is LE asked Terri and Kaine about any and everyone who had possible contact with Kyron in X amount of time before the disappearance and Terri mentioned the landscaper. LE found it highly suspicious that Kaine didn't know about this landscaper and when they interviewed him, he told the story of Terri asking him to kill Kaine.

 

[AlexisFresca]

LOL - and why didn't she contact them before it happened? Sheeesh!

Not that I am sticking up for her, as I have mixed feelings on psychics, but I do not think they are able to predict the future. They may well have visions of something that happens in the future, but they don't usually know the who?, what?, where?, why? or when? - or 'the players involved', so to say. Does that make sense?

Also, me? I take what they say with a grain of salt. I file it away and look it up after arrests and see how accurate their 'visions' really were. I will never forget the outrage and anger towards certain psychics who swore on visions of Torri Stafford, being alive, her abductors seen at a McDonalds drive-thru to get her food and bring it back to where she was taken, a description of the area she allegedly was and so on. Oh, it was awful, just awful. Due to these 'visions' from these psychics, many believed she was still alive. You can imagine the shock when it was discovered she died within hours of her abduction. The anger at these psychics for the false hopes.

 

[AlexisFresca]

He/she also says that the police don't want people to know that the baby was with Terri at the science fair. Gee, if that's so, don't you think there might be a REASON, such as differentiating true and false sightings of Terri that morning, and you maybe shouldn't post about it on a forum?

Earlier he/she says that the baby was with a babysitter.

This case is just so bizarre. Imo, thinking of me in that scenario, I'd be saying, '...and daughter/son and I waved bye to him' or whatever the account would be. I am curious now, how many on the questionnaire mentioned seeing the baby or not? Though, I glanced at the questionnaire and nowhere did I remember seeing a question of if anyone else was with her? Does anyone else?

 

[Aedrys]

Supposing she thought that the landscaper wasn't going to do it or if she asked anyone else and they weren't willing, she might have eventually figured out that it was too risky to have Kaine killed because her reluctant hitman candidates could have revealed her plans to LE if they heard of Kaine dying.

Exactly. Or maybe she was just lazy. Her reasoning defies logic, just as Casey Anthony's does. We all keep asking ourselves why Casey didn't just leave her home if things were so bad. Heck, why didn't she leave not long after murdering Caylee? Why stick around and get into trouble? In her case, she was lazy and thought someone else (parents and brother) would clean up her mess and help her get away with this crime. She never imagined the police would ever be involved or that she would get into any trouble over it.

I think it's the same thing in some ways here. Why didn't TH just take the baby and leave if things were so bad? Instead, she sticks around seven months or so after looking for a hitman to take out her husband. Maybe she was comfortable in the fact that since the hit never went through, she'd never get into trouble for it? And who knows if she wasn't looking for another way to take Kaine out?

I think she believed she had everyone fooled, and if she did get into trouble, then Kaine (definitely) and maybe Desiree and Tony would stand up for her and help her not get into trouble because they wouldn't believe she had anything to do with this. I think, like Casey, she's not as good at lying and pulling the wool over others as she thought she was. All this time, she thought she had a handle on what people thought of her and how her life was going. Now she's finding out the truth, that she was fooling no one, and that now she's in serious trouble that I doubt she ever thought she would be in.

That's the thing about sociopaths and narcissists (I think she's one of these, or has the tendencies of both) - they think they have everything under control and nothing bad can possibly go wrong. I can totally see her thinking about and even asking around for a hitman at one time, and when that didn't work, then it was back to the drawing board to find something else to hurt him with. She probably thought she had all the time in the world to do something to him, so why hurry? It's all under control, there won't be able trouble, so why move faster and possibly make mistakes?

I'm not surprised there was such a length of time between the hitman and then Kyron going missing. TH was trying to pull off the perfect crime and she obviously took her time in doing it. It makes me wonder if LE has searched her computer and found searches for weapons, household weapons, how to murder and get away with it, poisons, you name it. I bet she was planning something for quite awhile.

Only it seems Kyron became her focus for some reason, and that took priority over killing Kaine. He probably didn't even realize he'd done something to make her want to do away with him, poor kid. What have you done, TH? Where is Kyron?

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Maybe the only thing she may be guity of is she was hurt by him and thought she wanted him dead.But wasn't going to do anything about it. It was just a thought. Maybe she would not pass the lie dector if she was asked the question did you want him dead or want to kill him. I mean really how many people think about hurting some one but do not do it. I don't know,Maybe or maybe not she wanted to hire anyone to kill him. But I am having a real problem believing the landscaper because he didn't say anything for 7 months. Even when Kyron came up missing he didn't say anything. LE sought him out. I'm real curious who tipped LE off to this guy?Did I make any sense at all there LOL.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

The way I understand it, is LE asked Terri and Kaine about any and everyone who had possible contact with Kyron in X amount of time before the disappearance and Terri mentioned the landscaper. LE found it highly suspicious that Kaine didn't know about this landscaper and when they interviewed him, he told the story of Terri asking him to kill Kaine.

Oh,That would make sense.Terri tipped LE to the landscaper and he then implicates her.Yes,This is very intersesting.

 

[LadyL]

Whoever she is, she is supportive of the child who explicitly went against FBI orders and went public with the post 8.45 sighting of Kyron...(the now debunked sighting)

At the time the child made that statement I did an informal...non-scientific poll...and discovered not a single person who supported the Grandmother's decision to place her grandson in the spotlight.

Therefore,my logic, based admittedly on unscientific data, leads me to believe that the so-called psychic is likely someone closely related to the one person who thought ignoring the FBI was a good idea.

BTW her statements are internally inconsistent...and therefore totally unreliable to put it nicely.

I agree. I've caught several contradictory statements within those posts.

 

[nonfictionrocks]

He/she also says that the police don't want people to know that the baby was with Terri at the science fair. Gee, if that's so, don't you think there might be a REASON, such as differentiating true and false sightings of Terri that morning, and you maybe shouldn't post about it on a forum?

Earlier he/she says that the baby was with a babysitter.

This is another great question that has never been answered for sure.

 

[Kimster]

This thread will be closing soon. The psychic issue has gone way too far.

 

[Kimster]

How many of us have questions about this development?

Why didn't the landscaper report this before now?

Is this report even true since LE won't comment on it?

Does Intel have excellent benefits, including a life insurance plan?

How does Kyron's disappearance fit in with a murder plot of this type?



Let's stay on topic please.:angel:

 

[RubyRed]

I am wondering if the landscaper didn't report it because he was/ is incarcerated and hadn't heard about it.jmo

 

[Noway]

How many of us have questions about this development?

Why didn't the landscaper report this before now?

Is this report even true since LE won't comment on it?

Does Intel have excellent benefits, including a life insurance plan?

How does Kyron's disappearance fit in with a murder plot of this type?



Let's stay on topic please.:angel:

Do we know the landscaper did not notify any branch of LE prior to this?

IMO, it is the things that LE will not comment on that tend to be important.

Intel benefits? http://www.intel.com/jobs/usa/bencomp/benefits.htm They claim to have excellent benefits (including Life and Accident Benefits), but I don't work there ... so that is their opinion (as far as being "excellent") only.

I think this is Kaine's worksite: http://www.intel.com/jobs/usa/sites/hillsboro/facts.htm (there are facts on salary and compensation at this website too)

How does Kyron's disappearance fit in? If the plan was to make his death look like a suicide, she may have needed to provide a reason for Kaine to be depressed and for people to "buy it".

 

[oxymoran]

I doubt we'll ever know the truth about why the Landscaper came forward...but I cant help wondering if the person who pointed the finger at him was non other than TH.

Yes its counter-intuitive but TH is likely acting like a trapped wounded animal and lashing out in all directions. Maybe she thought she could defend herself by going on the offensive and picking someone else to sit on LE's hot-seat for the abduction of Kyron.

Plausible?

 

[Noway]

If/when she hired him, did she pay by check?

If LE checked the Horman's finances (and IMO they would have) then they may have found his name on a check and asked who he was. Answer: landscaper I hired. So they locate and talk to this landscaper who tells them the story. Later, when LE confronted Terri with the information, she denied any murder-for-hire scheme.

(Granted, paying your hitman for any services by check is downright dumb!)

You're going to want a link for that, aren't you? If not you ... someone will.

ETA

When questioned about the supposed scheme, Terri reportedly denied it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/05/earlyshow/main6647973.shtml

 

[K!tty]

I have seen several references to a suspected affair on KH's part (with a coworker?). I think this was mentioned on NG and I've seen it in several comments. Does anyone know where that information originated or any specifics?

 

[MsFacetious]

Why didn't the landscaper report this before now?

Possible reasons:

Criminal background
Illegal immigrant
Other reasons to fear law enforcement
"Didn't want to get involved" and felt turning her down was his only obligation
Perhaps she convinced him she'd changed her mind since he wouldn't do it


Is this report even true since LE won't comment on it?

I believe if it was not true LE would say that. Someone could easily go and carry this out, then claim Terri hired them. If they could come out and say "That is untrue" then they would do so for everyone's safety. I believe Sheriff Staton all but confirmed that it was true in his comments.


Does Intel have excellent benefits, including a life insurance plan?

Yes and yes in my experience.


How does Kyron's disappearance fit in with a murder plot of this type?

I don't know. Maybe she wanted Kaine's life insurance but that didn't work, so she decided to go for ransom for Kyron instead? (Again, I think it's highly likely that Kaine has at least 100k+ the bank.) Then it just backfired on her and now she isn't sure what to do?

Yes, she could have been planning to kill them both so that Kaine's life insurance would not be split between two kids... but that is a bit more evil than I am choosing to think right now.

This opens up the small possibility in my mind that Kyron could be alive. I am going to go with that for now. :woohoo:

 

[CementPond]

Well, I had an idea as to why he didn't come forward until now but when I mentioned it last night I got in trouble (not directly) for speculating/wondering/thinking and accused of spreading/starting rumors (even though it was my OWN thoughts and I said as much...and my post got deleted). So, now I'm afraid to mention it again. I don't know if it's ok to say or not. First we're told not to speculate. And then we're encouraged to (i.e., when questions are posted like....so, what do you think?). Sorry but it's too confusing at times. Not to be mean.