Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

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Also I will have to think about the statement Terri made to the gardener that Kaine had had an affair. True? Also the article states there's other people who can support the gardner's claims - who?

How does this all fit together is almost beside the point as I am starting to hope Kyron will be found soon ALIVE. Dare I hope?

I always wondered if that email that Kaine sent to everyone at Intel was really for one person only. He couldn't communicate with that person, so he did it that way.
 
  • #843
At this time we ONLY have Terri saying Kaine had an affair.. At this time I'm thinking Terri may lie a whole lot..And I'm not convinced Terri didn't want Kyron dead or that he isn't...JMO

If Terri is telling the gardener..that Kaine had a affair and thats why she wants him killed etc..well really IMO..that means little. She was trying to hire this guy and get sympathy from him.
 
  • #844
okay, I've made the rounds of papers and blogs and just stopped back home to say:

Time for a nice salt bath.

Then some fireworks!

Respectfully edited. This is getting to be waaayyy too much drama for me. "Oh! The Susan Hayward of it all!" Think I'll have me a blue-cheese burger and watch Jaws :D

Cheers, everyone! :toastred:
 
  • #845
Thanks, that page no longer exists, and when you go to the latest article it does not have extra-marital relationship in it, only that he hurt her.
Strange!

Yes, this story has been updated and the more salacious details have been removed.
 
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If the landscaper thought she was joking, I can see where he wouldn't bother reporting it to the police. Telling a joke in poor taste is not yet a crime in this country.

But when Kyron goes missing just 7 months later, that changes the context. What may have looked like a joke originally could look very different.


Important point. Do we know for a fact that the solicitation was made 7 months ago?

From my reading, TH hired him 7 months ago...presumably to do yard work...and the solicitation for murder could have happened later...which would in many ways make more sense... as this would allow time for her to develop some trust for him...rather than blurting out her unusual request for additional value-added services on Day 1 !

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
  • #848
Context matters.

If the landscaper thought she was joking, I can see where he wouldn't bother reporting it to the police. Telling a joke in poor taste is not yet a crime in this country.

But when Kyron goes missing just 7 months later, that changes the context. What may have looked like a joke originally could look very different.

I have an example (I always have an example; it's the results of an ill-spent but very interesting life).


Many years ago, I was engaged in a lighthearted discussion that involved gallows humour with a doctor I knew. At one point, that doctor told a joke:

"There's the Heimlich maneuver" (she pantomimed it on herself) "and then there's the Kevorkian maneuver" (she pantomimed pinching her nose and covering her mouth).

I am completely certain that it was just a joke. I remember laughing heartily at the time.

But if I learned that seven months later this doctor was suspected of responsibility in the death of an elderly patient, that joke would suddenly look very, very different. Maybe not so much like a joke and more like a prediction.

Of course I did not report that joke to the police at the time. That would just make me look ridiculous, destroy the friendship and waste police resources. But if there had been a later suspicion about that doctor? You betcha I'd report it, even seven months later.

I will use that line in the future!

*back to the topic now*
 
  • #849
If Terri is telling the gardener..that Kaine had a affair and thats why she wants him killed etc..well really IMO..that means little. She was trying to hire this guy and get sympathy from him.

I've been on this same train as you guys for a long time now, every time that lady opens her mouth seems to me to be a lie. It's so hard not to want to look into what she says, but I think she is the absolute queen of misinformation, red herrings and 'oh poor me.' Now it will be she was beaten, tied in a closet, mind-melded to Satanists and the only way out was to take Kyron. Whatever.
 
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At one point my thought was "well, Kaine could have been setting her up big time"

What if he found out about the for hire thing - and sent Kyron away to be safe and decided to get even with Terri?

I don't know why I just don't want her to be responsible for it - not that I want him to be, but SOMEONE is - what if all this other crap, is in fact just extra crap that doesn't matter to the Kyron part of the story?

Although the Media no discussion thread has the sheriff saying he has a lot of decisions to make this week - wonder what those are....
 
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Hmmm?? What is it that ladies possess and can give away that men might want? lol

High heels?

(humming Monty Python's "I'm a Lumberjack and I'm okay..."
 
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I always wondered if that email that Kaine sent to everyone at Intel was really for one person only. He couldn't communicate with that person, so he did it that way.

Didn't he use the words "this incident"
 
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For those interested, here is a profile of a murder for hire person (mastermind) - and the doer.

~~SNIP~~

Unlike rapists, sex murderers, pathological fire setters, and pedophiles, murder-for-hire masterminds do not conform to a general psychological profile. They are men and women of various ages and backgrounds who solicit their murders pursuant to a diverse range of motives. Murder plotters, compared to murder doers, tend to be older, more commonly female, and are less likely to have histories of crime or violence. Given the pre-meditated nature of a murder-for-hire plot, masterminds, while sociopathic, desperate, depressed, drug-addled, or simply not very bright, are not psychotic and therefore not mentally ill enough to be found legally insane. Without the benefit of the insanity defense, masterminds, when their backs are against the criminal justice wall, tend to throw themselves to the mercy of the court. They often cite, as justification for their murderous intentions, abuse, depression, and addiction to drugs and/or alcohol. Generally, these pleas for mercy and understanding fall on deaf judicial ears, particularly when the mastermind was motivated by greed as in avoiding the cost of divorce, benefiting from a life insurance policy, or inheriting the victim’s estate.
~~SNIP~~

http://jimfisher.edinboro.edu/hire/overview.html

There's no justification for planning to kill. I'm just thinking motive to the plot or to TH's defense might be a woman suffering through hormonal changes and a cheating husband flaunting his affair in her face threatening to take this new baby, and leaving her to care for his son while he's out cheating.

Remember the preacher's wife that killed him but got sympathy over the high heels shoes he made her wear. Anything can be used in a defense to gain sympathy.

Just want to add that it wouldn't take a mastermind to plot something crazy, you'd just have to be FEARLESS to try to pull it off. Narcissists are often fearless that way, and can't see the flaws in their plan.
 
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I would also imagine that if she had known the landscaper for 7 months then there is a possibility that there is alot of phone activity between the 2 of them, this may have been more proof to LE that this guy was legit and not just some whackadoo wanting in the middle of a high profile case.
 
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Important point. Do we know for a fact that the solicitation was made 7 months ago?

From my reading, TH hired him 7 months ago...presumably to do yard work...and the solicitation for murder could have happened later...which would in many ways make more sense... as this would allow time for her to develop some trust for him...rather than blurting out her unusual request for additional value-added services on Day 1 !

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
If she solicited to have him murdered 7 months ago and maybe used a few people.why isn't he dead yet?Some thing is not right with this story.
 
  • #856
I always wondered if that email that Kaine sent to everyone at Intel was really for one person only. He couldn't communicate with that person, so he did it that way.

Can you please expand on your what you are thinking about the email? Without naming names ...what role did this other person at Intel have in this story?
 
  • #857
With all the twists and turns in this case, I am now more suspicous then ever of all kinds of people. Especially because there have been no arrests for anything.

The clue has to be in how Kyron was removed from the school.
 
  • #858
He did not report an attempt to hire him to kill someone. I believe that is a crime.
I hope they take into consideration, if he is here illegal or not, that he was probably afraid the whole thing would be denied by TH, turned on him with her well-off hubby not believing a word he says, and that he would be the one prosecuted. Just a thinkin' out loud, but I know I'd be scared to cross that woman!
 
  • #859
There's no justification for planning to kill. I'm just thinking motive to the plot or to TH's defense might be a woman suffering through hormonal changes and a cheating husband flaunting his affair in her face threatening to take this new baby, and leaving her to care for his son while he's out cheating.

Remember the preacher's wife that killed him but got sympathy over the high heels shoes he made her wear. Anything can be used in a defense to gain sympathy.

I'm thinking if this was the other way around and the guy was the suspect (non person of interest of whatever), that we wouldn't have any sympathy at all, or be saying that he was suffering through hormonal changes, or anything else. I think that the female can be just as deadly as the male, and this case is a perfect example of that.
 
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Can you please expand on your what you are thinking about the email? Without naming names ...what role did this other person at Intel have in this story?

I think human was thinking if there was an affair, she's at Intel. But Human, correct away :)
 
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