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[21merc7]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3074601&postcount=121

But it's not on any local news here...

Oh, post 121, I thought it was 123. Thank you! I thought I was loosing it!

 

[indicat]

I cant even express how glad I am a deal for Caylee's remains was not made, her smug arrogance will be her own undoing and there is justice in that.

 

[sarah7855]

It was post # 123, but now it is gone.

I linked post #121, see above, that one's still there, was there another?

 

[21merc7]

I linked post #121, see above, that one's still there, was there another?

Nope, that's it. I am looking for some links just in case, can't find any yet. There will be plenty soon I am sure!

 

[impatientredhead]

well I am not sure if this is the correct thread to post this- it does say discuss evidence- the Mods can move it or erase it if they want- I just heard Phil Keating on Fox news remark about that lady that said the area was dry when she took those pics of it- and couldnt understand why LE didnt find the body back them and people are saying maybe the body was moved- well he just said that tim walked back there and said that the body would have been missed if it was placed under one of those big bushes- it would of went unnoticed-

If she just chucked her down that slope the bag could have gotten wedged under the bush it was found under. It may have been submerged but remained pretty much were it landed. The vegetation coverage in there in August would be different than December as well, changing lines of sight.

 

[sarah7855]

Oh, post 121, I thought it was 123. Thank you! I thought I was loosing it!

Welcome :blowkiss:

 

[nursebeeme]

When the sheriff's office is ready to announce the identity of the body, they will so at their office and not at the crime scene... per www.myfoxorlando.com

just some interesting info...seeing as fox seems to think the results are forthcoming. Is there a webcam up at the SO to notice any increase in activity??

 

[Meemom]

There are many sizes of duct tape. A few months ago I went to Lowe's for that and some other things, the many varieties and sizes were baffling to say the least!

Here's 1 site that offers gaffer's tape up to 4" wide....if this was AH's tape, very possible

http://www.uline.com/BL_3110/?pricode=wf725

 

[21merc7]

just some interesting info...seeing as fox seems to think the results are forthcoming. Is there a webcam up at the SO to notice any increase in activity??

No, the webcam is aimed at the cruisers, not where any reporters could be. I don't know????

 

[scandi]

I keep thinking of the description LE gave of the tape. They said it was keeping the mouth taped shut. To me, it sounds like the tape was wound around the entire circumference of the head, but covering only the mouth area. A small child wouldn't be able to remove tape that had been applied in such a manner.

The tape (if mouth covered only) makes sense to me if Caylee was still alive and Casey was afraid she'd scream. Taking this a step further, Casey could easily have prevented this by using her own hand to cover Caylee's mouth. That's why I believe she probably chloroformed Caylee first, applied the duct tape, then left Caylee alone, perhaps to drown in the water.

Good Morning and Hi Indigo,

I'm wondering if the tape was used to keep the tongue in.

I posted a link previously that said SS within the first 36 hours the tongue protrudes from the mouth.

If the killer or Casey did wrap the body a couple of days after death it could have grossed her out to prompt her to do this. Maybe that is why she wound the tape all the way around the head, to make sure it stayed in. It also would make sense that the mouth taping would have taken place when she taped the outside of the bag - just seems logical to me. ??

What I wonder about is if she would wait 2.6 days to ensconse {sp} the body in 2 bags and tape it shut so long after death. I would think she would do that right away knowing how quickly the body would change. She evodently had some knowledge of this from what I've read.

XOX

 

[maur33]

It is in print in Geraldo's blog from the day the body is found, he says that there was a 10-15 year deal on the table in exchange for the location and exact details of what happened and Casey wouldn't take it. I am glad she didn't, with time served and Florida's credits earned during your sentence she could have been out before her 30th. Shows the level of how much she doesn't want to take responsibility for her actions, that was an amazing offer, if it existed.

Wow...how incredibly foolish of her, what a deal that would have been. Most people would have snatched that up like candy.

What does she think is going to happen here, that she will NOT be doing time in prison?

Her goose is cooked, not only is she now looking at the very real possibility of doing life, the prosecutors might just put the DP back on the table.

It's amazing how sometimes it seems that certain criminals are just destined to NOT get away with their crime...and casey anthony has just joined their ranks.

 

[RiverRat]

It is in print in Geraldo's blog from the day the body is found, he says that there was a 10-15 year deal on the table in exchange for the location and exact details of what happened and Casey wouldn't take it. I am glad she didn't, with time served and Florida's credits earned during your sentence she could have been out before her 30th. Shows the level of how much she doesn't want to take responsibility for her actions, that was an amazing offer, if it existed.

Well, if it's any consolation, an Inmate in the Florida Department of Corrections MUST serve At Least 85% of their sentence. Soooo, even if she turns out to be a model prisoner without any infractions, only 15% of her sentence COULD be shaved off, although with a high profile case like this, I have a feeling that more than one or two protests letters would be sent to the commission and will help ensure that Casey's spends what it should be - 100% of her Sentence.

However......I'm not too worried about lesser charges that the above info would apply to because IF she is convicted of First Degree Murder and receives a Life Sentence, she will be imprisoned until she dies. :boohoo: NO Time Off for Good Behavior, but what the hey, why should she start now?!

 

[Dr. Pennypacker]

I am so right there with you on this! And he followed up by refusing to give DNA, fingerprints, etc. without a subpoena. I really hope they take a long hard look at LA's possible collusion.

He sure isn't making any friends with LE.
He better hope he's real clean and doesn't need a favor from them

 

[21merc7]

Okay, last few minutes some cameras being put up then moved around on web cam. (As far as the posts about announcement.)

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

 

[impatientredhead]

Good Morning and Hi Indigo,

I'm wondering if the tape was used to keep the tongue in.

I posted a link previously that said SS within the first 36 hours the tongue protrudes from the mouth.

If the killer or Casey did wrap the body a couple of days after death it could have grossed her out to prompt her to do this. Maybe that is why she wound the tape all the way around the head, to make sure it stayed in. It also would make sense that the mouth taping would have taken place when she taped the outside of the bag - just seems logical to me. ??

What I wonder about is if she would wait 2.6 days to ensconse {sp} the body in 2 bags and tape it shut so long after death. I would think she would do that right away knowing how quickly the body would change. She evodently had some knowledge of this from what I've read.

XOX

The skin is starting to seperate from the body in sheets by day day two so I don't think wrapping tape around the head would be less horrific than the protruding tongue, but who knows.

I am starting to think she wrapped the tape around the head of a crying Caylee who was just drug out of grandma's house still in her swimsuit to shut her up. Rage filled act and then throws her in the trunk sometime shortly after. If the tape was in the car (Amy's from May?) it may have just been an opportunistic tool. The chloroform confuses me, as does ZFG being at Sawgrass June 17th????

The pesticides and the stain in the trunk lead me to think she was unbagged in the trunk for some period and that she bagged her at the Anthony home one of the days the neighbor sees her coming and going. If she then chucked her down the side of the road the day she says she ran out of gas (the 20th) we have her in the right location, walking away from an abandoned vehicle that she can't easily leave a body in.

I think it was rage filled and intentional but not nearly as well thought out as I originally gave her credit for. She is a deal with it when you no longer have a choice ill tempered lazy brat. Not the criminal mastermind one would expect. I think George and Cindy have systematically lied about the circumstances of their last seeing Casey and Caylee and the gas cans and is what they want immunity for.

 

[indicat]

He sure isn't making any friends with LE.
He better hope he's real clean and doesn't need a favor from them

He is being so childish, they are going to get what they need regardless so he is just thumbing his nose at them and making them get court orders, that is just the maturity he has shown if you ask me.

 

[suspicious1]

I want them to search Lee's house and property so bad I can't stand it.

Have you ever noticed the ones most guilty are the first ones to want to help with the investigation. Remember Scott Peterson and the fliers, Mark Hacking and the search for Lori, Ken Register that killed Crystal Faye Todd and then was a pall bearer at her own funeral.

I'm telling you, Lee is hiding something and I hope they do search his property. Afterall, he does just live a block away from the A's house and he was to talkative at the beginning as if trying to make himself look like a hero to take an suspician off of him.

I think KC killed Caylee alone, but she is too weak to have handled things afterwards without someone's help. Blood is always thicker than water and I don't think she would have trusted anyone except Lee.

He just makes my skin crawl.

I had to buy some duct tape a while back, and was amazed at all the colors of choice you can purchase it in. Does anyone know if they have said what color the duct tape is they found?

Mods, please feel free to move this post if not on the right thread.

I think you absolutely right. LA had already stated before in his interview that him and KC had a relationship unlike the parents. That's why in the beginning CA called LA to come home and talk to KC. CA thought that KC would tell LA what had really happened. I believe that after KC was incarcerated, she eventually did tell LA what happened.(he told her not to trust Baez, and that they should send letters).
Could he have been the one to move the body from one location to another?
Could he have been (screwing) the lady that claim to have photographs of the area when it was dry and there was no body (when she searched with Equusearch it was after the hurricane, the area would have been wet.)
SHe searched the area before she got with Equusearch?
Could his fingerprints be on the bag or duct tape? He refused polygraph (what does he know?) He refused fingerprinting (what are his fingerprints on that he does not want it to be matched back to him?)

Someone please help me figure this out.

 

[impatientredhead]

I think you absolutely right. LA had already stated before in his interview that him and KC had a relationship unlike the parents. That's why in the beginning CA called LA to come home and talk to KC. CA thought that KC would tell LA what had really happened. I believe that after KC was incarcerated, she eventually did tell LA what happened.(he told her not to trust Baez, and that they should send letters).
Could he have been the one to move the body from one location to another?
Could he have been (screwing) the lady that claim to have photographs of the area when it was dry and there was no body (when she searched with Equusearch it was after the hurricane, the area would have been wet.)
SHe searched the area before she got with Equusearch?
Could his fingerprints be on the bag or duct tape? He refused polygraph (what does he know?) He refused fingerprinting (what are his fingerprints on that he does not want it to be matched back to him?)

Someone please help me figure this out.

My read on Lee is that he and Casey are not really that close. Her cell records and text messages do not show any regular calls or texts. He is the "mr fix it negotiator" in this dysfunctional group. He gets called in when things are totally out of control, he finds out from Casey what she has done now, and then tries to negotiate with Cindy since C and C just scream at each other. He tried hard to do that early on in this scenario.

He is ill tempered like his father and a control freak like his mother. Once he realized he could not fix this situation, the only thing left for him to control is making them go the distance to get what they want from him (DNA, fingerprints, etc...). I find him unlikeable, like most of the crew, but I don't think he has done anything sinister.

 

[CASuzk]

My read on Lee is that he and Casey are not really that close. Her cell records and text messages do not show any regular calls or texts. He is the "mr fix it negotiator" in this dysfunctional group. He gets called in when things are totally out of control, he finds out from Casey what she has done now, and then tries to negotiate with Cindy since C and C just scream at each other. He tried hard to do that early on in this scenario.

He is ill tempered like his father and a control freak like his mother. Once he realized he could not fix this situation, the only thing left for him to control is making them go the distance to get what they want from him (DNA, fingerprints, etc...). I find him unlikeable, like most of the crew, but I don't think he has done anything sinister.

Oh man, what if LA did help KC get rid of the body and G and C are worried about BOTH of their kids getting nailed for this crime?

 

[Tally CIT]

Wow...how incredibly foolish of her, what a deal that would have been. Most people would have snatched that up like candy.


Exactly- most people would have snatched up a deal like that, but not a true sociopath. A true sociopath will continue to lie, and lie, and lie, (or in this case, stick to a lie) long after the lies have been disproved, and the evidence is shoved in their faces.

I may be wrong, but I don't think that Casey will EVER admit to anything other than passing her daughter off to the babysitter.