Laura Babcock: Dellen Millard & Mark Smich charged w/Murder in the First Degree #1

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A police spokesman would only say that investigators obtained another search warrant for the property after receiving “further information” in relation to Ms. Babcock’s disappearance. Toronto police initially searched the farm in late May, but said at the time that no evidence had been located.

Waterloo police wouldn’t say why their drug unit helped with the search, referring all questions to Toronto police. But speaking in generalities, Staff Sergeant Gerry Nugent said the squad is typically tapped to assist with drug investigations and to handle drug-related contamination, adding that the unit could be called in to briefly assess hazardous materials that aren’t drug-related.


Ms. Babcock and Mr. Millard had begun a sexual relationship in the first half of 2012 while Mr. Millard had a girlfriend, according to Shawn Lerner,

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...suspect-dellen-millards-farm/article14217664/
 
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Here is a short interview with LB's parents. How horrifying it must be to have a child missing. I hope for the best for their sake, but if DM is found to be responsible for her disappearance, he would be one sick, heartless, sorry excuse for a human being. Praying for LB. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2013/09/09/21110671.html
 
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No wonder DM's GF may be an "important witness": that's pretty disrespectful

No wonder he feels free to strike something up with "Dee"

This is the word of what may be a jealous boyfriend. Was he there when the 'sexual relationship' occurred ? How would he know unless he was there.
If LB had told him that she was having a relationship with DM, maybe she said that as a way to break up with SL.... I hardly think SL's word can be taken as absolute truth unless he witnessed the sexual act......:scared:
 
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This is the word of what may be a jealous boyfriend. Was he there when the 'sexual relationship' occurred ? How would he know unless he was there.
If LB had told him that she was having a relationship with DM, maybe she said that as a way to break up with SL.... I hardly think SL's word can be taken as absolute truth unless he witnessed the sexual act......:scared:

SL has shown more PROOF of DM's guilt than DP has of his innocence in MSM.

DP might want to get some of that mind mapping/3d/Napoleon stuff going.
 
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SL has shown more PROOF of DM's guilt than DP has of his innocence in MSM.

DP might want to get some of that mind mapping/3d/Napoleon stuff going.


DP does NOT have to show any proof of innocence at this stage. I have not seen any PROOF from SL apart from some cellphone records....and apparently his misled that situation by claiming that DM was the last person Laura contacted.... he showed the cellphone records and based his claim on that, we now know that there were other contacts as per the links previously posted. So what other proof has SL shown? TIA
 
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SL has shown more PROOF of DM's guilt than DP has of his innocence in MSM.

DP might want to get some of that mind mapping/3d/Napoleon stuff going.


I wonder if he's using the trial download (no pun intended) or if he dished out for the $20 full version of the 3d timeline software.

http://www.beedocs.com/
 
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DP does NOT have to show any proof of innocence at this stage. I have not seen any PROOF from SL apart from some cellphone records....and apparently his misled that situation by claiming that DM was the last person Laura contacted.... he showed the cellphone records and based his claim on that, we now know that there were other contacts as per the links previously posted. So what other proof has SL shown? TIA


Like I said more proof from SL than DP.

He better saddle ole pumpernickel and get going or he's going to meet his Waterloo.
 
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I wonder if he's using the trial download (no pun intended) or if he dished out for the $20 full version of the 3d timeline software.

http://www.beedocs.com/

He could likely use the trial version but he should have the full version since this is a multidimensional, multi-jurisdictional, multi-suspect, multi-crime scene case. Napoleon and Pumpernickel likely never had a case this complex.
 
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Such good people. Laura's mom always struck a chord with me, trying to keep a smile speaking to MSM knowing that's what she had to do even if it wasnt her style.

I am sure they would prefer the thousands of barn images be replaced with images of Laura for everyone to see. I hope the call they get from LE is that the lead was false and there was no sign or trace of Laura.

I still would not be surprised if this search was actually not for LB rather for drugs and that was the "new information" from their investigation. Once again using Laura's disappearance for a different purpose but who cares, I guess if it gets her name and face out there thats all that matters. Maybe LB's family should get the Bosma's PR friend involved, he sure helped them get the word out fast. Imagine if the students of U of T were organized and mobilized to help Laura?

I have nieces here in Toronto. I have to admit while there was no direct connection, my own niece and LB have a "mutual friend" on FB, likely a UofT connection as my niece goes there too. It gave me goosebumps to see my own niece's photo near Laura's when I clicked on one of Laura's friends in what I think was one of her last posts (months before the disappearance though). Laura was a promising bright student. These things can happen to anyone.

I did question my niece but couldnt remember the mutual friend's name at the time. She didnt appear to know anything about LB or DM but she'd heard of the test drive murder victim from kijiji. (TB) I'm sorry but shouldnt LB's face be all over campus and posted everywhere within the younger community? What use is it being viewed only by people who watch the news?

I pray she is alive and doing what she wants to do. I also pray she finds out her family is looking for her and she decides to touch base so they can breathe again.
 
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If you read earlier in this thread, you'll see lots of us questioning why her disappearance was not given more coverage, including why her friends and family were not making more noise about it. There was a Facebook group, but a lot of people were more interested in privacy concerns (their own and Laura's) than in making the kind of racket necessarily to get the public listening when a free, unattached legal adult goes missing.
 
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Like I said more proof from SL than DP.

He better saddle ole pumpernickel and get going or he's going to meet his Waterloo.


For whatever reason he may have....and yes cellphone records exist but there were many other numbers she called and obviously SL knew that... She also contacted others after speaking with DM which SL forgot to mention..... hardly proof imo.... more like misleading information JMO
 
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Such good people. Laura's mom always struck a chord with me, trying to keep a smile speaking to MSM knowing that's what she had to do even if it wasnt her style.

I am sure they would prefer the thousands of barn images be replaced with images of Laura for everyone to see. I hope the call they get from LE is that the lead was false and there was no sign or trace of Laura.

I still would not be surprised if this search was actually not for LB rather for drugs and that was the "new information" from their investigation. Once again using Laura's disappearance for a different purpose but who cares, I guess if it gets her name and face out there thats all that matters. Maybe LB's family should get the Bosma's PR friend involved, he sure helped them get the word out fast. Imagine if the students of U of T were organized and mobilized to help Laura?

I have nieces here in Toronto. I have to admit while there was no direct connection, my own niece and LB have a "mutual friend" on FB, likely a UofT connection as my niece goes there too. It gave me goosebumps to see my own niece's photo near Laura's when I clicked on one of Laura's friends in what I think was one of her last posts (months before the disappearance though). Laura was a promising bright student. These things can happen to anyone.

I did question my niece but couldnt remember the mutual friend's name at the time. She didnt appear to know anything about LB or DM but she'd heard of the test drive murder victim from kijiji. (TB) I'm sorry but shouldnt LB's face be all over campus and posted everywhere within the younger community? What use is it being viewed only by people who watch the news?

I pray she is alive and doing what she wants to do. I also pray she finds out her family is looking for her and she decides to touch base so they can breathe again.


Yes her face and the fact that she's missing should have garnered the same ' motivation' as TB imo... I have often wondered why one case is so 'out there' and another is swept under the rug so to speak...... very odd imo
 
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<modsnip>yes cellphone records exist but there were many other numbers she called and obviously SL knew that... She also contacted others after speaking with DM which SL forgot to mention..... hardly proof imo.... more like misleading information JMO

Why would you <modsnip> when you don't have all the facts?

I believe this was already discussed ... that while LB may have had later contact with someone else other than DM, we do not know if that was by phone, text, email, ??? SL approached DM based on the phone records he had ... maybe he never was in possession of the phone bill subsequent to the one we've seen.
 
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