Laura Babcock Murder Trial 10.31.17 - Day 7

[SnooperDuper]

I highly doubt there is any DNA evidence. We know there was very little left that could be identified as TB, I assume there was nothing left of LB. Plus, even in recent articles LBs parents stated that they still held hope that she was alive somewhere. If cops had found remains they certainly would have informed the family.

Well they would have informed the coroner, and they never did, because they never found a body. They did inform the family that they beleived that Lb was dead.

If LB's body was stored in a tarp in the barn for 20 days there could have been body fluids that leaked and were left behind.

 

[Typhoo1961]

Well they would have informed the coroner, and they never did, because they never found a body. They did inform the family that they beleived that Lb was dead.

If LB's body was stored in a tarp in the barn for 20 days there could have been body fluids that leaked and were left behind.

Which explains the board the police brought out.

 

[paris_paris]

I only recall hearing about DM and LB phones going to Maplegate, but I haven't seen the Crown's opening posted yet:

"From opening: Evidence will show Millard, Laura phones travelling from Kipling station to Millard Maple Gate home" (from ABro's tweets that were opened up for Days 1 and 2)

The Crown will present cellphone records that indicate the phones of Millard, Smich and Babcock were all at or near Millard's Etobicoke home on July 3, 2012.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/laura-babcock-trial-blog-1.4367180

 

[musicaljoke]

The Crown will present cellphone records that indicate the phones of Millard, Smich and Babcock were all at or near Millard's Etobicoke home on July 3, 2012.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/laura-babcock-trial-blog-1.4367180

So far, no one has said that they were with LB, or saw or spoke to her on July 3rd. Is that correct?

 

[SnooperDuper]

How Far is LB's Parents home from DM's Etoboicoke home?

Their address has never been public, so...???

 

[ILoveDateline]

Some people aren't so free spirited anymore with the fentanyl crisis as it is and its appearance in other street drugs. Mr. ILoveDateline had a friend that did cocaine. He, Mr.I[emoji171]D, "vehemently" denied doing it for this reason. You partially have me convinced to confront the subject again, however, "Andreww said...." Isn't really a compelling argument. I will clarify that this occurance is while we're in our last 30s, not early to mid 20s.

I can tell you for certain, I would refuse cocaine. I do feel like the majority are with me.

Also, I say "had" and "did" in reference to the friend because he took his own life. He was in a similar mental state and life upheaval as LB. This is why I'm extra critical of the circumstantial evidence in this case.

 

[Busymom4]

I had a thought about the house that she was being dropped off at, in todays testimony, ......let me find it. It was Jessica Trevors testimony. I was wondering if it was actually their home or if it was Millards? I'll look for the details and see if I am able to post my thoughts.....depending on if that info is MSM or not...

 

[musicaljoke]

Considering how random some of LB's encounters were, the police apparently were able to track down the people connected to her final days, even after so much time had gone by.

 

[Busymom4]

Shannon Martin
Babcock stayed with Trevors for four days.

Trevors said Babcock mentioned she was an escort, which Trevors said she was "fine with."
A friend came over to Trevors' apartment, and Babcock again mentioned escorting and said Trevors should join her.

Trevors friend became uncomfortable and said it was time for Babcock to leave, which Trevors agreed with.

Babcock was very upset, the witness said, "She stomped around a lot."

Eventually she agreed to go, and Trevors drove her to a home in Etobicoke.

She says "a home in Etobicoke", then later says It was her parents home......Laura could have told her it was anyone's home would she really have known otherwise? I wonder if the pings will line up with this....why say "A" home in ....and not say I took her to her parents home right off the bat?

 

[deugirtni]

So far, no one has said that they were with LB, or saw or spoke to her on July 3rd. Is that correct?

Not yet. But crown seems to be getting closer to the date

 

[Busymom4]

I have been thinking back to the Dr's testimony the other day, after all this talk about her going away to Vegas or Disney paid for by the "dr" .....I am still very surprised that neither Millard nor Dungey cross examined him. I have a question, can they call him back to the stand later on, or is he done done now? Second does it bother anyone else that this man is a "well respected" behavioral pediatrician......<modsnip>

 

[Sphinx]

Which explains the board the police brought out.

And maybe the hay or straw that the policemen were dragging out in a tarp. Perhaps it was over, and under the body wrapped in a tarp. It is possible there were body fluids on that, even if very small traces. IMO

 

[canadiangirl]

Their address has never been public, so...???

The address is public. She lived by the golf course.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/07/21/golf_course_neighbours_are_open_for_business.html

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[Tealgrove]

I only recall hearing about DM and LB phones going to Maplegate, but I haven't seen the Crown's opening posted yet:

"From opening: Evidence will show Millard, Laura phones travelling from Kipling station to Millard Maple Gate home" (from ABro's tweets that were opened up for Days 1 and 2)

I know the route well. Took it for years and years when I worked downtown and lived in Etobicoke.

Subway to Kipling (end of the line). They either got on the Bloor West bus which would take them all the way from Kipling right through Markland Woods and practically to Millard's door. Or.... he parked at Kipling and drove from Kipling to his house on Maplegate.

 

[candlelady]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/07/21/golf_course_neighbours_are_open_for_business.html

This article wasfrom 2010 and LB was parking cars (using her driveway) for a golf tournament. This would give the general area of where her parents lived wouldn't it? Says to be about 15 min driving from DMs. (Using Google Maps)

Long time watcher but first time posting. I was wondering this too.... Until I remembered this article.

Oops should have refreshed my screen to fins someone already posted this...

 

[Busymom4]

The address is public. She lived by the golf course.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/07/21/golf_course_neighbours_are_open_for_business.html

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Thank you!

 

[Busymom4]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/07/21/golf_course_neighbours_are_open_for_business.html

This article wasfrom 2010 and LB was parking cars (using her driveway) for a golf tournament. This would give the general area of where her parents lived wouldn't it? Says to be about 15 min driving from DMs. (Using Google Maps)

Long time watcher but first time posting. I was wondering this too.... Until I remembered this article.

Thanks for helping me piece this together, I haven't seen this article before, but it does fit now!

 

[Tealgrove]

The address is public. She lived by the golf course.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/07/21/golf_course_neighbours_are_open_for_business.html

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This is a very nice area. It's not really close to Maplegate. You certainly wouldn't walk it.

Maplegate, which is in Markland Woods (New Money) is about as far west as you can go and still be in Toronto (Etobicoke). The Etobicoke Creek runs behind Maplegate and separates Toronto from Mississauga.

The area where the Babcock's live (lived) is the older part of Etobicoke (Old Money), a little north and on the eastern side, maybe middle of Etobicoke.

 

[Tealgrove]

I find it extremely sad to be seeing Laura's last days played out. I just can't imagine, going from place to place with a dog in my arms and all my stuff and begging people to let me stay with them. Sigh...

 

[Busymom4]

I find it extremely sad to be seeing Laura's last days played out. I just can't imagine, going from place to place with a dog in my arms and all my stuff and begging people to let me stay with them. Sigh...

It is horribly sad!! My heart is with her parents! This has to be so hard for them to sit through and endure!