Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.03.17 - Day 10

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  • #261
Why does it matter that MS didn’t give MM the iPad? Seems like a red herring.

He didn’t give it to her because he is an awful human being, which is why he killed at least one person.

Seems like not seeing the forest for trees, in my opinion.
It's controversial because it was DM, not MS, that promised an iPad to MM, however it appears MS took the iPad immediately. It implies MM knew about LBs iPad before MS assumed ownership of it. The question is how?

ETA: but it is my belief (for no reason really) that DM promised A iPad not necessarily THAT iPad. Also, it's the timing of LB being with DM and the iPad being acquired that doesn't provide time for MM to know unless she was there.

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  • #262
Hyenas.

Wait for the SMS evidence to see new lows. I speculate that degenerate Uno swore love and support to her while discussing murder plans with degenerate Due.
 
  • #263
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews now8 seconds ago
The back was seized December of 2013, in a second search by police. #Millard confused by that. Seguin had "nothing to do with prev search"

Shannon Martin‏ @ShannonMartinTV now33 seconds ago
Dellen Millard asks the officer to clarify the date the bag was found. Dec. 16, 2013. He thought it was in May.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews now
Seguin can't tell court when the red bag got to the #Smich residence, Seguin agrees. Could have been 2011? #Millard asks. "K." #Babcock

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews now1 minute ago
Only the bottom of the suitcase is hard, "duffel-bag" style suitcase. #Millard, "not a clam shell?" He has no more q's. #Smich

Did he think he had tripped up the detective? The May order would have been for evidence for TB and not LB so was he "hoping" that they found it during an "illegal" search and would be thrown out? (ie: warrant stating only allowed looking for TB info not LB info)
 
  • #264
Here is Adam Carter's tweet from MM testimony regarding the Ipad:

[FONT=&quot]Meneses says Smich used an iPad. "It was Dellen's. Dellen was going to give it to me, but Mark was like, 'Why give it to her, I want it.'




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Since MS says in his song the last time he saw her she was outside the house made me wonder if MS was on lookout and cleanup duty. He didn't tell his friends he killed her, he tells them he burned her.
 
  • #267
We could never wrap our heads around why Tim was taken away..."for a truck", which still didn't make sense to us. In no way do I mean this to be insensitive or to give the horrible outcome justification, but perhaps in some way it happened so that it could lead to getting answers about Laura. With the way the investigation was [not]-going, who knows if anything would have come of it otherwise. Not for a very long time, if at all. All MO


RIP Tim & Laura <3
 
  • #268
The "1" in ten appears to be a different colour, but no white that I can see.

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Original source https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4388...GaX_TMbA!2e0!5s20121001T000000!7i13312!8i6656

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Putting this in again as first time seemed to have a glitch. This angle the paint colour looks like a mixture.
 
  • #269
I was going over some of the mob reporter videos again and saw a bit of info about a video that was found on DM's computer of the incinerator at the hangar on the trailer. The date is Sept 5th 2012 and taken with an Apple iphone 4S. Lots of stuff relevant to this case IMO on this video of evidence in the Bosma case:

During opening statements on Oct. 23, the prosecution said Smich's iPad originally belonged to Babcock, a gift from her former boyfriend, Shawn Lerner, alleging the iPad was renamed "Mark's iPad" in early July after she was killed.

[video=youtube;cfO7B9rgltE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfO7B9rgltE&list=PLhn5mdcBuBd53rxwH2wIXvTH6Aodku4SD&index=3[/video]
 
  • #270
I snipped this off the mob reporter's video [video=youtube;cfO7B9rgltE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfO7B9rgltE&list=PLhn5mdcBuBd53rxwH2wIXvTH+6Aodku4SD&index=3

Notice the dates!!!!

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  • #271
I was going over some of the mob reporter videos again and saw a bit of info about a video that was found on DM's computer of the incinerator at the hangar on the trailer. The date is Sept 5th 2012 and taken with an Apple iphone 4S. Lots of stuff relevant to this case IMO on this video of evidence in the Bosma case:

During opening statements on Oct. 23, the prosecution said Smich's iPad originally belonged to Babcock, a gift from her former boyfriend, Shawn Lerner, alleging the iPad was renamed "Mark's iPad" in early July after she was killed.

[video=youtube;cfO7B9rgltE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfO7B9rgltE&list=PLhn5mdcBuBd53rxwH2wIXvTH6Aodku4SD&index=3[/video]


Yah MM playing around with the "new" Ipad obviously not knowing it was upside down--the very next day after LB's death!!! (on that video)
 
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  • #273
Yah MM playing around with the "new" Ipad obviously not knowing it was upside down--the very next day after LB's death!!! (on that video)

Sickening seeing all these pictures of these degenerates LITERALLY the day after LB died
 
  • #274
I don't have time right now to keep up with this case. I want to thank all of you posters for documenting the case so when I, an others, look back on the case we will have context and details.
Thanks to all who are posting here!
 
  • #275
Earlier today DM was cross examining - and suggested that anyone could create an email profile in his name.

However, it is established already that this email belonged to him - within 1 month prior to the murder of LB... a reference to his email... from the MillardAir website registration.

Source: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/SCHLA-ARIN

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  • #276
Earlier today DM was cross examining - and suggested that anyone could create an email profile in his name.

However, it is established already that this email belonged to him - within 1 month prior to the murder of LB... a reference to his email... from the MillardAir website registration.

Source: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/SCHLA-ARIN

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Didn't we go through that in the last trial where it was claimed that SS was using that email in his name? :waitasec:
 
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I was going over some of the mob reporter videos again and saw a bit of info about a video that was found on DM's computer of the incinerator at the hangar on the trailer. The date is Sept 5th 2012 and taken with an Apple iphone 4S. Lots of stuff relevant to this case IMO on this video of evidence in the Bosma case:

During opening statements on Oct. 23, the prosecution said Smich's iPad originally belonged to Babcock, a gift from her former boyfriend, Shawn Lerner, alleging the iPad was renamed "Mark's iPad" in early July after she was killed.

[video=youtube;cfO7B9rgltE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfO7B9rgltE&list=PLhn5mdcBuBd53rxwH2wIXvTH6Aodku4SD&index=3[/video]

Is that LB’s dog on Pg.47? (picture of the Eliminator w/Millard’s dog)


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  • #279
Is that LB’s dog on Pg.47? (picture of the Eliminator w/Millard’s dog)


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Good eye. Wonder if anyone else noticed that?
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  • #280
IMO, It's highly unlikely that either of them had any idea that duffel bag had LB's name on it. According to this report, that hidden tag was on the underside of the bag.

Toronto Police Const. Kim Seguin testified about being in the Smich house on Dec. 16, 2013, for the second police search. In a bedroom used for storage, wedged behind boxes, was a small red Roots duffel bag with wheels. Inside were several spray paint cans, the kind used for graffiti.

But that isn&#8217;t what causes an almost audible intake of breath from the courtroom spectators. It&#8217;s the close-up photo of the identification tag pulled from its small compartment on the underside of the bag: &#8220;Laura Babcock,&#8221; it reads, with her family&#8217;s home address and phone number.

http://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...ad-and-suitcase-found-at-accused-killers-home
 
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