Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.09.17 - Day 13

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  • #421
Probably because a burner phone can't be verified JMO

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But how did SL connect the dots then? I thought it was his number she called.
 
  • #422
Ya I don't get that either
 
  • #423
Thank you for the links guys. I really didn’t need to see that. Just so... evil. I hope these 2 are locked up for 100 years. Two less sickos I have to worry about my kids encountering at some point in their lives.
 
  • #424
But how did SL connect the dots then? I thought it was his number she called.
LB called DM phone you're right. So why did it say there was nothing past April 2012. Hmmmmm

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  • #425
LB called DM phone you're right. So why did it say there was nothing past April 2012. Hmmmmm

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I think you had the right idea -maybe they can’t prove contact? Seems weak but plausible.
 
  • #426
I thought this too. That he rolled his 1st body in a tarp.

I understood it as he has his first body to burn. Because if you were to roll a spliff, the next thing you'd do would be to light it.
 
  • #427
Just catching up. Is that a bag of ice or cold water he is holding in his left hand? We heard something earlier about pus, and wondering if he burnt himself.

I was wondering about that bag as well. I almost want to say it could be a bag that perhaps covered LB's head. I wonder if they drugged her (unconscious) and suffocated her with a bag? This would be the cleanest way to do it. There would be no blood. And he may have needed the mattress replaced as LB's body most likely expelled urine/stool at death.

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  • #428
I think you had the right idea -maybe they can’t prove contact? Seems weak but plausible.

So why did they say in the opening statement that she called him 8 times?
 
  • #429
Just catching up. Is that a bag of ice or cold water he is holding in his left hand? We heard something earlier about pus, and wondering if he burnt himself.
That's a vaporizer bag, for smoking marijuana. It looks full to me..


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  • #430
Probably because a burner phone can't be verified JMO

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Before we start a rumour about burner phones, I believe today's witness was there to discuss texts and pictures found on the phones via computer back up. He was not there to discuss phone contact between the parties. I think what was meant by no contact after April 2012 was that there was no text contact between DM's phone and LB's phone. I also seem to remember, and I'm thinking it was Megan Orr's testimony perhaps, that someone else said that LB did not have any contact with DM after April 2012, with the exception of the calls she made in the last couple of days of her life. Her phone bill shows that it is DM's phone number, not a burner phone that she was calling.

So either there was no back up to show texts between DM and LB in July or the phone contact at that time was strictly telephone calls that today's witness would have no information about.

MOO
 
  • #431
I was wondering about that bag as well. I almost want to say it could be a bag that perhaps covered LB's head. I wonder if they drugged her (unconscious) and suffocated her with a bag? This would be the cleanest way to do it. There would be no blood. And he may have needed the mattress replaced as LB's body most likely expelled urine/stool at death.

Just MOO

I’d think they’d burn a bag used in the murder. But then again, they’re idiots.
 
  • #432
Just catching up. Is that a bag of ice or cold water he is holding in his left hand? We heard something earlier about pus, and wondering if he burnt himself.

I think that's a bag full of vape smoke. Some vaporizers can fill a bag. Tobacco or pot, who knows.
 
  • #433
LB called DM phone you're right. So why did it say there was nothing past April 2012. Hmmmmm

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I would have been OK if Falconer said he didn't analyse any call/text data on LB's phone - but to deny there was any contact is very suspicious imo.
 
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That's a vaporizer bag, for smoking marijuana. It looks full to me..


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Ok then!

I’m just over here virtually with Tealgrove, drinking wine and listening to CCR. Feeling old...
 
  • #436
Before we start a rumour about burner phones, I believe today's witness was there to discuss texts and pictures found on the phones via computer back up. He was not there to discuss phone contact between the parties. I think what was meant by no contact after April 2012 was that there was no text contact between DM's phone and LB's phone. I also seem to remember, and I'm thinking it was Megan Orr's testimony perhaps, that someone else said that LB did not have any contact with DM after April 2012, with the exception of the calls she made in the last couple of days of her life. Her phone bill shows that it is DM's phone number, not a burner phone that she was calling.

So either there was no back up to show texts between DM and LB in July or the phone contact at that time was strictly telephone calls that today's witness would have no information about.

MOO

But DM's phone back-up would have shown incoming contact - call/text - from LB phone. Something is off compared to the opening statement and what we have seen regarding the phone bill (albeit not in this trial).
 
  • #437
Ok then!

I’m just over here virtually with Tealgrove, drinking wine and listening to CCR. Feeling old...

Me too! I have never heard of a vaporizer bag before today.
 
  • #438
But DM's phone back-up would have shown incoming contact - call/text - from LB phone. Something is off compared to the opening statement and what we have seen regarding the phone bill (albeit not in this trial).

This witness was only there to discuss text message contact. From the text message back up file. And photos from the photo file. He did not testify to any phone contact.

The jury is well aware that there was phone contact between DM and LB in July 2012. This also may have been clarified in court but not tweeted.

MOO
 
  • #439
Before we start a rumour about burner phones, I believe today's witness was there to discuss texts and pictures found on the phones via computer back up. He was not there to discuss phone contact between the parties. I think what was meant by no contact after April 2012 was that there was no text contact between DM's phone and LB's phone. I also seem to remember, and I'm thinking it was Megan Orr's testimony perhaps, that someone else said that LB did not have any contact with DM after April 2012, with the exception of the calls she made in the last couple of days of her life. Her phone bill shows that it is DM's phone number, not a burner phone that she was calling.

So either there was no back up to show texts between DM and LB in July or the phone contact at that time was strictly telephone calls that today's witness would have no information about.

MOO

Burner phones are not a rumour, he bought a burner phone in the past.
In regards to this trial though, why was the phone bill not brought into evidence to show proof of phone calls from LB to DM?

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  • #440
Burner phones are not a rumour, he bought a burner phone in the past.
In regards to this trial though, why was the phone bill not brought into evidence to show proof of phone calls from LB to DM?

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Was that not brought in when the phone company reps were on the stand near the beginning? And suggesting burner phones in this case would be a rumour. We do know he used one later in another "mission" but there is nothing to suggest he was using one to contact LB in this case.
 
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