Laura Babcock Murder Trial 12.05.17 - Closing Arguments - Day 1

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  • #401
Sorry I am wrong, there was a 49 second phone call to MMJ at around the same time the picture was taken.

I also thought he had sent the picture to MWJ. I can't remember who said that but I'm pretty sure it was said.
 
  • #402
I still fail to see what his so called "sleep issues" have to do with this trial. Can anyone enlighten me?
 
  • #403
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
2m2 minutes ago
Cronen talked about wanting to "do prosecution" as a career and he referred to the crown as "Jill" - not that #Millard is suggesting anything improper happened between the witness and the crown, but maybe he had an ulterior purpose to his evidence, Millard says.

Is he allowed to say that???
 
  • #404
Lisa Hepfner‏
@HefCHCHNews
2m2 minutes ago
On July 4 he hasn't slept in two days. That wasn't extraordinary from him, as the jury can see from all his text messages, #Millard says. #LauraBabcock

Lisa Hepfner‏
@HefCHCHNews
32s33 seconds ago
Millard laughs when his lawyer assistant Rebecca Sherman puts up the wrong page. No one else cracks a smile. #LauraBabcock


Tough room eh DM? :D
 
  • #405
I also thought he had sent the picture to MWJ. I can't remember who said that but I'm pretty sure it was said.

I specifically recall hearing that as well, but at this point I’m not sure if it was said at trial, or something I read somewhere else along the way. I do remember it standing out to me, as I thought it was an odd thing to do, especially to MWJ.
 
  • #406
Is he allowed to say that???

I don't think he's "allowed" to say a lot of the things he's said. But I don't think they quite know how to stop him. Or want to? :dunno:
 
  • #407
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
41s41 seconds ago
Millard reads a text message between he and #LauraBabcock in which Laura wanted to bring her dog over to his place and he agrees. #Millard is now reminding jury that Babcock dropped her dog at her parents' before she disappeared.
 
  • #408
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
41s41 seconds ago
Millard reads a text message between he and #LauraBabcock in which Laura wanted to bring her dog over to his place and he agrees. #Millard is now reminding jury that Babcock dropped her dog at her parents' before she disappeared.

Is this a known fact that Laura dropped Lacey at her parent's home or is this assumed?
 
  • #409
Close! Chaz Main used the property for dirt biking, and had made arrangements with the previous owner to use the property. I believe he gave him a nice Bottle every once in awhile. I don't believe Chaz was a hunter, especially not deer hunting in July. MOO

That is what I remember as well. Is it that same owner who still grows the corn in the fields? I believe that is why Chaz still rode through there. Does anyone remember that connection?
 
  • #410
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
55s55 seconds ago
Whatever the problem at home, #Millard isn't sure it's important. But #LauraBabcock dropped off her dog and an envelope of cash. Her dog "Lacey" would have been welcome at Millard's house.


Not if she thought you were taking her on a trip.
 
  • #411
I don't think he's "allowed" to say a lot of the things he's said. But I don't think they quite know how to stop him. Or want to? :dunno:

Good point. He his digging is own hole at this point.
 
  • #412
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
1m1 minute ago
"That tells you she's not only planning to come to my house. A destination she doesn't want to bring her dog to. That's certainly not my place. My place is dog friendly," #Millard explains to the jury. #LauraBabcock


She took her dog to escort appts for cripes sake. The only place she couldn't take it was out of the country. So that's what that tells me. MOO
 
  • #413
Millard now reading through some more text messages, between Babcock and himself he's presented before, where they talk about Babcock's dog Lacey.

"Why is this important," Millard says. He talks about early July 2012.

"Laura drops Lacey off at her parents home... she did some laundry, did some dishes on the counter, left her dog Lacey there, along with a thousand dollars or so in cash."


by Shannon Martin 4:09 PM


And where is the rest of the money? :thinking:
 
  • #414
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
46s46 seconds ago
Texts from July 3, 2012, between #LauraBabcock and the friend who shot that meowing video with her phone on the first. She's still looking for a place to live. Tells him she's going to Montreal, then maybe Disney or Vegas. A good time? "I dunno, it's work," Babcock told him


Okay so there's the contradiction. She WAS planning to go away. So why did she contact DM?
 
  • #415
So he decided to attack evidence/witnesses. And when he can't attack an evidence, he attacks the witness.

He forgets that probabilities multiply. If probability of A is 10% and probability of B is 20%, then the probability of seeing both A and B is 2%. That is, if they are not correlated. However, when you kill someone all the improbable evidence become correlated and appear all at once.

He shouldn't underestimate the jury. If it was 5 minutes to the farm and 10 to the hangar, he could have dropped off the body, go to the hangar and then come back to the farm by car to take the blue tarp photo. Isn't that what he would do if he had a body in the truck?

Exactly, when looking at multiple locations in close proximity any order of events is possible.
 
  • #416
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
1m1 minute ago
"That tells you she's not only planning to come to my house. A destination she doesn't want to bring her dog to. That's certainly not my place. My place is dog friendly," #Millard explains to the jury. #LauraBabcock


She took her dog to escort appts for cripes sake. The only place she couldn't take it was out of the country. So that's what that tells me. MOO

More importantly DM, why did she never pick her dog back up from her parents'?
 
  • #417
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
2m2 minutes ago
We learned how much a young woman could make in the escort business, #Millard reminds jury. There would be less competition in Montreal, as we heard from a man in the escort business, he says.
 
  • #418
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
1m1 minute ago
Laura had not crossed into the states legally, according to a border expert, #Millard says. But where's the evidence about Montreal? The police have clearly gone to the US border, why stop at the US? why not check Europe, the Caribbean? There's an absence of evidence.

Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
27s28 seconds ago
"I haven't seen a stitch of evidence about anyone calling up the police force in Montreal" and asking about #LauraBabcock's disappearance, #Millard says.
 
  • #419
Millard reminds the jury the Crown called a border control expert that said Babcock had never crossed the American border.

"Why only check the US?" he asks. He repeats a phrase he's said several times today. "It's an absence of evidence."



by Shannon Martin 4:13 PM
 
  • #420
Lisa Hepfner‏ @HefCHCHNews
now4 seconds ago
We can all have multiple phones, #Millard says, showing a bill that says one of Mark #Smich's phones was billed to him. It's easy for anyone to get a prepaid phone, #Millard says.
 
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