LE Press Conferences

[Donjeta]

IMO, sometimes cooperative seems to mean that a person is talking to LE, agreeing to be questioned and answering their questions, but it does not necessarily imply that the answers are truthful.

 

[Emma Peel]

Seems to me Sheriff has a difficult time with the word 'association'. Terri has been ostracized by mom, dad, and step-dad. Not sure he knows how to address that. moo

grrrrrr...

It seems to me the Sherriff is also having a difficult time with the word "cooperating". Thinking of sending him a dictionary. :croc: LOL!

(j/k Sherrif, j/k)

 

[Ms Suzanne]

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But as Kyron’s disappearance hits the four-week anniversary and costs mount for the cash-strapped county, Staton could not say whether an arrest or resolution is coming any time soon -- nor how long the office can afford to sustain the effort.



This makes me very sad to read.I do not understand this.This is for a little boy that is missing and possible not alright.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I totally agree that LE is stumped...but only as to how to gain enough goods to make the arrest, not on the case itself. It's too bad, as they had a "free" month before Terri felt she had to get a lawyer and they were not able to get her to talk to them. Now, I don't think they ever will. I am feeling totally pessimistic about this case.

I get that feeling, too. All they ever say is for US to keep our eyes open and for US to keep calling in tips. You know things are bad when all you have is the hope that some citizen will call in a tip that bails you out by handing you evidence on a silver platter. I'm not at all impressed.

 

[Emma Peel]

IMO, sometimes cooperative seems to mean that a person is talking to LE, agreeing to be questioned and answering their questions, but it does not necessarily imply that the answers are truthful.

you could be right. but wow. if they KNOW she's been untruthful, if they KNOW that her story is just wrong - would they still characterize it as cooperating? I dunno. If so then...

I object.
That is a very overbroad definition of cooperating. IMO.

 

[roseofsharon]

Wondering how far in advance the children were allowed to set up their projects.

One pic with the science project shows KH wearing his glasses and in another pic he is not. Curious to know exactly how many pics TH took.

Also would like to know when the bell rang was KH the first to arrive at the classroom door -- could it be that no one was in the room when he got to the door -- other than a perp perhaps.

Just speculation -- moo.

 

[eyes4crime]

grrrrrr...

It seems to me the Sherriff is also having a difficult time with the word "cooperating". Thinking of sending him a dictionary. :croc: LOL!

(j/k Sherrif, j/k)

I think s-mom is cooperating, probably more than most. She supposedly took two lie detector tests, was interrogated without an attorney present, allowed the home and grounds to be searched, gave up the truck to be searched. I think she has been more than cooperative - what the findings/outcome of all that cooperation might be, I have no idea. moo

ETA: Terri went almost a month before getting herself an attorney - that's pretty darn cooperative. moo

 

[Cheewawa007]

The comment from Mom yesterday that he is alive... the letter Mom left in an envelope in front of the school for Kyron... the new info on Kyron's birthmark, etc... the sudden divorce... could it be that someone associated with step mom isn't wrapped too tight and took this precious boy & is keeping him to get back at step mom for whatever reason? The cell phone ping thing has not been confirmed, as well as the fact step mom lied about where she was at a certain time. The searching of the water I can't stick in this theory because it doesn't fit; unless the abductor threatened to kill Kyron and place him in that area. This is beyond bizarre...

 

[roseofsharon]

I agree with MK that if it was a perp, there was a very small window of opportunity and only one road in and one road out to and from the school.

 

[CaringCitizen]

I don't think the school had surveillance. I wonder if this means videos filmed by parents attending the science fair?

I'm thinking yes, probably personal videos shot at the Science Fair as well as possible video sent in from areas LE sought videos from. This is going to be one interesting trial, when the case finally gets to that point. I just hope enough evidence comes together (circumstantial and otherwise) where justice gets served in the end.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Here's what I don't get about all that Terri lied to investigators stuff.

We've had nothing in these LE pressers other that "Terri is cooperating with LE & the investigation... Terri has been cooperative ... no indication that Terri has not been cooperative..." ?????

Well ... if she failed her LDTs, if she lied about here whereabouts, if her cell pings tell a different story... (LE has not said these things - but these are the rumors that even some press has floating around...)

If those little rumors are so, then ... What the heck does "Terri has been cooperative with the investigation" mean ?

Or, can we just debunk all the rumors now.

hmmmmm....:waitasec:

And why doesn't the press ASK those rumor questions?? !!!

Do you think - perhaps - LE has had a little closed door "ground rules for press" meeting on its own? :yes:

Being cooperative and being truthful are not the same thing. LE has never said Terri is cooperating and being truthful. She meets when they want to meet, she answers the questions they ask, she allows them to search her house and car. She does everything they ask her to do, so they have no grounds at all to say she is not cooperating. She is. She might be lying through her teeth at the same time, but, "Is TH being truthful?" is a very different question from, "Is TH cooperating with the investigation?"

Reporters need to ask better questions. Of course, if they asked if TH was being truthful with investigators they'd get a response of "No comment" or "TH is cooperating."

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I agree with MK that if it was a perp, there was a very small window of opportunity and only one road in and one road out to and from the school.

What about that access road? Does that count as a second road in?

 

[Kitkat]

My impression was he has to be careful now that T's lawyer is listening. I got the impression thPey are saying Kyron is alive only because not proved otherwise, not because of any info.[/quote

I can't for the life of me think why they just won't name her a POI or a suspect. I don't understand how that would damage the investigation at all. She can have her attorney there whether she is guilty or not now that she has one. Why won't they say it if that is what they think?

It may be strategy related... to increase pressure on TMH and get as much from her (via push from friends/family) and from the community before an arrest.

To me it sounds as if LE may know she left with Kyron, and LE suspects Kyron is deceased but want to maintain a neutral and hopeful facade--> This could place pressure on TMH for so many reasons: her baby daughter is now gone, her trusted friends will continue to question/push her due to what they hear from community/media vs. what they hear from her, and perhaps all of it will work at her (ahem) "conscience."

I'm not ruling out TMH working with an accomplice, tho'... that's my 2nd thought as stranger abduction was almost clearly ruled out today.

 

[Etilema]

Here's what I don't get about all that Terri lied to investigators stuff.

We've had nothing in these LE pressers other that "Terri is cooperating with LE & the investigation... Terri has been cooperative ... no indication that Terri has not been cooperative..." ?????

Well ... if she failed her LDTs, if she lied about here whereabouts, if her cell pings tell a different story... (LE has not said these things - but these are the rumors that even some press has floating around...)

Yes, these same things have been bothering me. While I agree that "cooperating" is subject to interpretation, let's not forget that there's no law saying that LE must tell the truth the public, when it might compromise an investigation. The clearest case of LE straight out lying in order to lead suspects into their hands was the balloon boy case. They stood before the media and claimed to believe the stories that the family was telling, while all along they suspected it was a planned hoax and were just waiting to get evidence. After the fact, they explained that those statements were part of their plan to win the trust of the Heene's.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Wondering how far in advance the children were allowed to set up their projects.

One pic with the science project shows KH wearing his glasses and in another pic he is not. Curious to know exactly how many pics TH took.

Also would like to know when the bell rang was KH the first to arrive at the classroom door -- could it be that no one was in the room when he got to the door -- other than a perp perhaps.

Just speculation -- moo.

Here's the Science Fair thread. The answer might be there.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106889"]The Science Fair-IB Expo and the Electric Project - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[PortlandMama]

I agree with MK that if it was a perp, there was a very small window of opportunity and only one road in and one road out to and from the school.

Is that what NG said? Because I wouldn't agree with that characterization, unless she's referring to the parking lot access road itself. The school sits on a major road, not a dead-end street, and it's near a major intersection. Yes, it's ruralish, but both Skyline and Corn Pass are major thruways in that area.

 

[Kitkat]

There is no reason to name her as a POI, as what difference does it make? They clearly do not have enough to arrest her. I think they are still indicating that she is, without having to take an official stance on it, in case they are wrong.

Also, what I read from what he says/does not say, that Terri is the likely the culprit, since he can't/won't go there, it leaves room for those wildly improbable theories floating around that Kyron is okay and someplace else, being help "captive"-I don't believe that at all, but since Gates can't just say no to those questions (because he can't prove it yet) he can't shoot down those theories in public either. (goes to the defense, if LE locked into one thing too early and only focused on Terri.) I think this is also why he is saying they are assuming Kyron is alive, so that they do not have to name this a murder investigation yet. All semantics, as usual, with same result, for me-they are looking at TH.

*bump*

 

[cluciano63]

LE can't very well say she has been uncooperative; that would mean she refused to talk to them. And her lawyer will say she has told you all she knows, she spoke to you for x # of hours, took LD's, etc...so it would be hard to say no, but also hard to say yes, for Gates. If he knows she has been lying all along.

I'm just more sad than mad now. I am sad because as one poster said, unless she confesses, I think this case is already cold. What tip could come in that would help prove her guilt? I suppose someone could have seen her that has not yet called but it seems unlikely.

If she was seen leaving with him (IF) and if she lied about her whereabouts (IF)...that could be enough for a very weak case, IF they also had Kyron's body. But without? I doubt it.

 

[CaringCitizen]

...Also would like to know when the bell rang was KH the first to arrive at the classroom door -- could it be that no one was in the room when he got to the door -- other than a perp perhaps.

Just speculation -- moo.

The kids were supposed to be getting into seats starting at 8:35am and then final bell rings at 8:45am. You are late if not in your seat by then.

Hence, I have always wondered why Terri, who, as a volunteer there and knew exact times, wouldn't send him to his room until the last minute. Why would she practically make him late when they had supposedly been there since 8am together? It's always seemed deliberate to me - to choose a time when fewer people would you see you leave.

 

[21merc7]

I still want to know if KH or any family members, including Desiree and StepDad, are friends with anyone in any capacity of LE there. Anyone know?