LE serves search warrant on family home #3

[flipflop]

I have no idea where to post this, it doesnt fit in any of the threads...so I will post it here, move or delete it.

Not sure if DB was living in Fort Bragg in 2007, but read this case...sounds WAY TO FAMILIAR!!!!!!

http://pysih.com/2009/09/27/update-johni-michelle-heuser/

and the cause of this baby's death...
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/2559454/

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

OT here for a second.... But I had to..

Dear Dear AphroditeInHerNighti,

I am new here as well and I am going to let you in on a little secret, this is the BEST forum I have ever been on in my life BUT.... expect to get chair sores on your arse, expect to have your home become a mess, expect your significant other to never eat again and if you have children the same goes for them, expect to stay in your PJ's almost all day and expect to eat ice cream and candy bars for lunch and breakfast because those things take 2 minutes to grab and its a short enough time so you dont have to sign back in again, expect to do nothing but refresh your page non stop and expect your family to start talking about an intervention or think you are having an online affair and finally, every time you get out of bed in the morning you must rush to the comp and see what the heck you have missed all night because you do have to go to bed eventually to take the weight off of those arse sores you will get... Ha..
PS.. Get a butt pillow... JMO..

HAHA!! Well lkets buddy up because my Dr just put me on 2 weeks of dilaudid. Im going to be sleeping or sitting on my butt for 2 weeks.. poor you guys. Its good though, when I try to talk to the husband about the case.. he gets this blank vapid look on his face. At least Im not going to be ignored like Im the the nutty case obsessed lady here. :crazy:
I came here earlier to see what was up with the David Parker Ray issue, and this hooked me in. I couldnt believe how these guys were keeping up on this live. Youre correct.. this is THE depot for info and discussion that isnt tainted with the trollish types. Scoot over.. we can get arse sores together! ( God that sounds bad... )

 

[marge_rita]

here, there is no doubt a crime was committed. This is not a "fishing expedition" that a judge would need to narrowly tailor. There is no scenario under which a crime did not occur in that house even if we assume everything the parents said is true.

More importantly, what this says to me is that LE was concerned that whatever they found would be challenged later. I don't ever recall LE needing a warrant to seach the home of a missing child. These are commonly done by consent. Here even if they consented, it seems they wanted a warrant. That to me speaks of LE's serious suspicions of the parents as they would be the only people who would have a right to challenge a search of the premises or evidence unearthed by a search of the premises. An intruder would have no standing to challenge a search of the Irwin home.

Boytwnmom,
Beautifully said. :takeabow:

 

[sorrell skye]

I was kind of enjoying the search warrant discussion. It was all :smilie scale: and then it was illowfight2:

Minette - all I can say right now is :floorlaugh:

 

[Sherbie]

It all depends. LE or the employer might have a reasonable belief that an employee has a hard drive stashed in their locker. If they search the locker and find illegal substances, they can arrest the employee.

JMO

I can't really respond to that since the mods asked for the search/seize issue to be dropped. Want some chocolate milk? :blowkiss:

 

[luckyme]

I have no idea where to post this, it doesnt fit in any of the threads...so I will post it here, move or delete it.

Not sure if DB was living in Fort Bragg in 2007, but read this case...sounds WAY TO FAMILIAR!!!!!!

http://pysih.com/2009/09/27/update-johni-michelle-heuser/

and the cause of this baby's death...
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/2559454/

No she didnt live there then, but i also posted this case. Thats why i said look in the attic. similary eerie. moo

 

[marycarney]

I have no idea where to post this, it doesnt fit in any of the threads...so I will post it here, move or delete it.

Not sure if DB was living in Fort Bragg in 2007, but read this case...sounds WAY TO FAMILIAR!!!!!!

http://pysih.com/2009/09/27/update-johni-michelle-heuser/

and the cause of this baby's death...
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/2559454/

Well written, then you scroll down and a peanut butter ad pops up - WTH?

 

[Paige SC]

here, there is no doubt a crime was committed. This is not a "fishing expedition" that a judge would need to narrowly tailor. There is no scenario under which a crime did not occur in that house even if we assume everything the parents said is true.

More importantly, what this says to me is that LE was concerned that whatever they found would be challenged later. I don't ever recall LE needing a warrant to seach the home of a missing child. These are commonly done by consent. Here even if they consented, it seems they wanted a warrant. That to me speaks of LE's serious suspicions of the parents as they would be the only people who would have a right to challenge a search of the premises or evidence unearthed by a search of the premises. An intruder would have no standing to challenge a search of the Irwin home.

You are my hero! Keep up with your wonderful posts and I will start stalking you!!!! :rocker:

 

[flipflop]

No she didnt live there then, but i also posted this case. Thats why i said look in the attic. similary eerie. moo

Thanks for clarifying, I looked everywhere before posting. I agree too many coincidences in this case.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Just to be clear....I never said the local person said any such thing as "to hell with baby Lisa and finding her"....

By asking questions about the attitudes of the neighbors, somehow I am being accused of dissing somebody. If that is the rule....no questioning of the local poster....then I can abide by that. I didn't know I was doing anything wrong.

My post was definitely not in any way pointing out or Insinuating that anyone did anything wrong.. Not my motive or intent for replying to the post about what the neighborhood was expecting or did they not understand there was a missing baby.. I just simply posted that in reading In da Middle's posts where she kept all of us abreast on the neighborhood going ons, as well as what many of those are saying or feeling about the on-going investigation that has encompassed a large part of their neighborhood a d therefor their daily lives.. That I personally did not come away with any of them being callous, or even not understanding what's at stake here.. Baby Lisa's life.. And tho some may be frustrated they are more than willing to have these small inconveniences of their daily lives so long as it takes for Lisa to be found..

The only reason I even posted my opinion of this community was because it seemed as tho their willingness to help in anyway necessary was misunderstood or not understood. It wasn't in any way making any type of negative connotations about anyone or stating someone was "wrong".. Infact I spoke of no one at all, nor even alluded to anyone except for In da Middle and her posts, period..

 

[luckyme]

Thanks for clarifying, I looked everywhere before posting. I agree too many coincidences in this case.

yes and look at the ages mother 25 baby 11 months!! I still wonder if she followed because of living there at one time. moo :seeya:

 

[MyBelle]

here, there is no doubt a crime was committed. This is not a "fishing expedition" that a judge would need to narrowly tailor. There is no scenario under which a crime did not occur in that house even if we assume everything the parents said is true.

More importantly, what this says to me is that LE was concerned that whatever they found would be challenged later. I don't ever recall LE needing a warrant to seach the home of a missing child. These are commonly done by consent. Here even if they consented, it seems they wanted a warrant. That to me speaks of LE's serious suspicions of the parents as they would be the only people who would have a right to challenge a search of the premises or evidence unearthed by a search of the premises. An intruder would have no standing to challenge a search of the Irwin home.

ITA. Today seemed to be an all out search right down to x-raying between the wall studs. Very thorough. I think LE is following the rules perfectly because they anticipate there will be a possibility of a request for change of venue down the road. DB has already made it clear that she feels LE have engaged in a rush to judgment from the beginning.

JMO

 

[SarahW]

ITA. Today seemed to be an all out search right down to x-raying between the wall studs. Very thorough. I think LE is following the rules perfectly because they anticipate there will be a possibility of a request for change of venue down the road. DB has already made it clear that she feels LE have engaged in a rush to judgment from the beginning.

JMO

And what happens if they find....nothing?

 

[jstwondering]

:twocents:I don't know where to post this, but since I've been on this thread most of the day I'll do it here.
JMOO, but my thoughts are that in the next couple days or so, JI and DB will each have their own attorneys. This will happen because I feel that if something bad happened to Baby Lisa, JI was not in the know. It seems he can't speak up for himself, it's like he's being railroaded on how to speak. It's so evident that she runs the show.

Anyways, my thoughts were that they were separated today, and taken wherever for that very reason. Maybe JI has info on certain things said, timeline, behaviors etc. And now that things are appearing to get more serious, and if he's not involved he's willing to be more cooperative with LE for his own protection. I am sad for JI, I hope I'm right, I think he's being sidelined by DB. JMOO. Don't throw me under the bus!!:twocents:

I'm inclined to agree IMO "If he's not involved". Did you notice when one of the interviewers asked if they wanted to ever return to their house, and she said never, and he said he would? I also think I remember that he bought the house first and it belongs to him. Pretty impressive for a 28 year old. He's probably a little bummed that his life was probably going along fine and then this happens. Can't help but think that he is wondering what hit him. IMO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

So...how bout those search warrants, eh?

*ducks and runs from the raygun*

 

[MyBelle]

And what happens if they find....nothing?

I doubt they found nothing.

 

[aks9847]

You guys wanted to know what it was like int the hood with the media. Nurse helped me get a couple of images uploaded.

This one is not even on Lister.

This is Lister, but about a block away.

Clusterf__k much? Can you imagine driving the school bus and making the corner?
Oh, yeah, this corner is also a school bus stop.

Who cares about school?!? I'm staying home to get Peter Alexander's autograph!! Come get me truancy officer!! :woohoo: :floorlaugh:

 

[luckyme]

And what happens if they find....nothing?

Please dont let this be another cold case! nobody can commit a perfect crime! moo!

 

[katydid23]

Trying to catch up any help with replies would be appreciated. Do we know why the bomb squad was called to help? What kind of equipment was used? Also, any idea why they used rakes? Oh and I really want to know what those black things are!! Did they really remove 46 from the home???

I don't think 'they removed' 46 of them, I think they may have used several of them a total of 46 times. In other words, from what i have gathered, they seem to be some type of X-ray technology that the bomb squad uses to x-ray inside walls and solid objects. So they take the 'black thingie' into the home, place it flat against the wall and then remove and walk it to the bomb truck and who knows what---maybe unload the film or develop it or look at it, then return to the house and do the same thing again.

 

[Turnadot]

I doubt they found nothing.

Agreed.

They took stuff out. I don't believe they'd be there all day if it was proving to be a waste of time.

IMO