LE serves search warrant on family home #3

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  • #601
is this from NG,b/c they digged earlier or is this new info.TIA

Dr Drew said they were still digging tonight and they had footage showing LE still coming/going through the front door - and it was dark - so it was new footage.

(I didn't see the show -just bringing over what was said on the other thread)


ETA: Here you go -


He showed reporter on site...it's dark out (this is not from earlier today), and guys are going in and out the front door still.
 
  • #602
Dr Drew said they were still digging tonight and they had footage showing LE still coming/going through the front door - and it was dark - so it was new footage.

(I didn't see the show -just bringing over what was said on the other thread)

Ok-Thank you belimom!!
 
  • #603
I went back and did search for "Garage Sale" in the early threads on Baby Lisa ... and I canNOT find an MSM Link ...

However -- I found some "posts" early in this case about a GS but NO LINKS ...

:innocent: Now I know why these links are important ... :innocent:

Sorry to beat this deadhorse ... but I "think" there is some confusion with Aliayah's case and this one ...



Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - MO - AMBER ALERT: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #1

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I thought someone had just brought up the possibility that if DB/JI had had a yard sale, then maybe someone saw LI, layout of the house, etc. I think someone was just speculating, IIRC.
 
  • #604
"Taking stuff out" and that stuff, post analysis, having any probative value iare two different things.
Sure, but that isn't quite what I meant: would they take the items if they didn't at least have an indication that what they collected has value in some way? Even it rules the family out, then it was a fruitful search, IMO.
 
  • #605
If you google lisa irwin parents yard sale ..you can see it is in a few comments from different sites.dating back to oct. 5..but I could not find anything in MSM on it.
 
  • #606
I thought someone had just brought up the possibility that if DB/JI had had a yard sale, then maybe someone saw LI, layout of the house, etc. I think someone was just speculating, IIRC.

Yes, it was "speculated" early on ... but out of NO WHERE, the GS came up on some earlier posts in this thread as "fact" ...

I still canNOT find any confirmation of a GS in this case in the MSM

Does anyone know if they will be searching again tomorrow ? TIA !

....

ETA: Adding this : IF there was a "Garage Sale" ... you can "bet your boots" that DB, JI and ESPECIALLY the defense attorneys would be BLAMING this on "someone" from the garage sale ... and also DB would have been using this as her "defense" in all her media appearances.

Sorry Mods ... IMO, the GS was "speculation" and NOT fact ... and IMO, there is some confusion because when this case first broke, some were following Aliayah Lunsford's case and there was talk about a GS at a church ...

Sorry again, but this came up in earlier threads here ...
 
  • #607
DB was VERY defensive when talking about being drunk. Trust me...girl was drunk.

Drunk enough to black out? Maybe. Or maybe not.

Yes, she answered in a very arrogant way "Enough to be drunk!"

Who does that when they have a sick infant and 2 small children in their care?

Kelly
 
  • #608
Sadly, some do. Take a look at how many unsolved missing persons cases there are. Many are children.

We had the Baby Christopher case. His sister posted here. 25 years

This morning I posted about the Aisenburg case. 14 years

Then of course we have all the others....Haleigh Cummings, Lindsey Baum, Hailey Dunn and many more.....still all unsolved and no where close to being solved, imo.

:(

Notice my signature line? I put it there during the Hailey Dunn investigation, and I vowed to leave it as my sig line until Hailey was brought home.:rose: Sadly I think it may be my sig forever now. :mad:
 
  • #609
Notice my signature line? I put it there during the Hailey Dunn investigation, and I vowed to leave it as my sig line until Hailey was brought home.:rose: Sadly I think it may be my sig forever now. :mad:

katydid23,

I join with you for Hailey and I claim the truth will be known for this darling, sweet angel. :-)

I don't get to post as often as I would like but would be glad to add Hailey to my sig. if I knew how. I did follow her case as best I could. What a sweetheart. The world was so cheated to be deprived of such a wonderful, precious soul.

Sometimes I just don't understand.

Kelly.
 
  • #610
LE still up there with flood lights. Road still blocked.No digging that I can see.
 
  • #611
Yes, she answered in a very arrogant way "Enough to be drunk!"

Who does that when they have a sick infant and 2 small children in their care?

Kelly
Whatever her lawyer is being paid, it's far too much.

If I were a pretend lawyer, DB and I would have a come to Jesus moment, where I'd tell her to stfu, unless it's talking about Lisa: how much you miss her, love her, try and reason with the kidnapper, etc. No matter what the media person says, YOU keep the focus on your baby.

IMO
 
  • #612
LE still up there with flood lights. Road still blocked.No digging that I can see.

I'm sure the neighborhood is anxious for a return to normalcy; are you within a couple blocks of Lisa's home?
 
  • #613
Whatever her lawyer is being paid, it's far too much.

If I were a pretend lawyer, DB and I would have a come to Jesus moment, where I'd tell her to stfu, unless it's talking about Lisa: how much you miss her, love her, try and reason with the kidnapper, etc. No matter what the media person says, YOU keep the focus on your baby.

IMO

and THAT is one of the reasons I heavily suspect the mother. She has kept the focus on herself, the attention on herself, and tried to dig her way out of things.. and her focus is obviously not on the baby. I saw how Klass and others who were truly innocent handled the media.. they kept the focus on the child and finding the child. I just dont see that here. Its as if she already knows they wont find her and is trying to cover her own butt. JMO of course :)

How did Downs and the others behave who killed/harmed their children.. it was all ME ME ME.

Of course I could be dead wrong, but I swear.. its odd behavior on her part in any case.
 
  • #614
LE still up there with flood lights. Road still blocked.No digging that I can see.


Thank You ! !

Do you know if they will continue tomorrow ?

TIA !
 
  • #615
Originally Posted by realmomof5
“… There have been far too many cases that the mom or dad or both have been tried and convicted then
come to find out they had nothing to do with it.
Far too many cases of people saying that situations are not plausible when in fact they actually happen.” [BBM]
……………………………….......................................................................................................................................
Realmomof5, Thank you for posting your thoughts about this.

When you say far too many cases of mom or dad or both conviction, when they had nothing to do with it, are you referring to ---
----abductions & deaths of children?
----deaths of children younger than 6 mo -1 yr? Or 5 yr? Or 18 yr?
Yes, wrongful convictions are horrible, and even one is too many.

Respectfully, can you provide link w statistical support for “far too many.”

Any W/Ser
Can you recall convictions of mom and/or dad for abduction & death of their own infant under age 1, &
later overturned as wrongful? Offhand I do not.
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  • #616
and THAT is one of the reasons I heavily suspect the mother. She has kept the focus on herself, the attention on herself, and tried to dig her way out of things.. and her focus is obviously not on the baby. I saw how Klass and others who were truly innocent handled the media.. they kept the focus on the child and finding the child. I just dont see that here. Its as if she already knows they wont find her and is trying to cover her own butt. JMO of course :)

How did Downs and the others behave who killed/harmed their children.. it was all ME ME ME.

Of course I could be dead wrong, but I swear.. its odd behavior on her part in any case.
I know what you mean, especially about Diane Downs. Casey Anthony was like that, too - just like Downs.

I'm on the fence about DB, but I do find her ME focus to be off. If my baby went missing, I'd be on every camera I saw crying and pleading for his safe return, and telling the kidnapper he likes sleep to with a pillow against his back. Promising the kidnapper anything, even take off my own limb, if they returned my baby.

DB seems in the interviews at least, to be completely unconcerned with Lisa's whereabouts and well being.

But I don't know if my opinion of DB is just my perception based on myself, or if she's truly off somehow.

On one hand it's not fair to judge her against my own feelings, but as a mother, I can't help but do so.

At any rate, I pray Lisa is alive and well, and found soon.
 
  • #617
FYI
There have been rumors flying here in KC tonight..


@KrisKetz #LisaIrwin rumor control. @KCPolice says NO truth to the rumor of finding human remains in this case. Spread the word... #RTPlease
 
  • #618
Whatever her lawyer is being paid, it's far too much.

If I were a pretend lawyer, DB and I would have a come to Jesus moment, where I'd tell her to stfu, unless it's talking about Lisa: how much you miss her, love her, try and reason with the kidnapper, etc. No matter what the media person says, YOU keep the focus on your baby.

IMO

EXACTLY... and tell the absolute truth. It doesn't matter what the public thinks! Reach out to the one who took her and pray their heart will be changed to bring her home.

If there was another situation, however, you do the right thing and tell the truth about what happened no matter how much it hurts or what the consequences are. Baby Lisa has to come first even if something happened that means she is no longer with us.

Kelly
 
  • #619
I'm sure the neighborhood is anxious for a return to normalcy; are you within a couple blocks of Lisa's home?
Close enough to have to pass that way to get in and out of the subdivision at times, but not in site. I dont think any of us can complain about the way LE has been all over the place. I mean all over the whole neighborhood and still not giving up on finding something.
 
  • #620
Originally Posted by realmomof5
“… There have been far too many cases that the mom or dad or both have been tried and convicted then
come to find out they had nothing to do with it.
Far too many cases of people saying that situations are not plausible when in fact they actually happen.” [BBM]
……………………………….......................................................................................................................................
Realmomof5, Thank you for posting your thoughts about this.

When you say far too many cases of mom or dad or both conviction, when they had nothing to do with it, are you referring to ---
----abductions & deaths of children?
----deaths of children younger than 6 mo -1 yr? Or 5 yr? Or 18 yr?
Yes, wrongful convictions are horrible, and even one is too many.

Respectfully, can you provide link w statistical support for “far too many.”

Any W/Ser
Can you recall convictions of mom and/or dad for abduction & death of their own infant under age 1, &
later overturned as wrongful? Offhand I do not.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -- - - - -
I think any is far too many.
 
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