Lee Has An Attorney! REVISIT OLD THREAD

[Truthwillsetufree]

Yes you're right, independent tests were performed.

The ME stated that the Nuclear DNA test was performed on a portion of the remains and compared to a 'known profile of Caylee'.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18318814/index.html

Thanks What's, my question is the same, I have googled it but still can not find the answer, did the ME have to have the Father's dna to perform Nuclear DNA testing to compare to a known profile of Caylee?

 

[Chilly Willy]

I agree with you...but then it's not a huge jump to assume more could have happened. FWIW, I don't believe it did.

But what reason is there to assume it? I see more reason to assume that Casey lied to Jesse than I see to assume that Lee fathered his own niece. LP's accusation basically is the same as pointing to any stranger on the street and accusing him of having sex with his sister. It's based totally on fantasy.

 

[illinoismom]

**Respectfully Snipped**
Wouldn't you want a lawyer helping you if there was someone like her in your life in this situation? I would.

My honest answer is no, I would not feel the need for legal representation if I had given LE consistant statements and cooperated fully. That is an honest response from me.

My guess is that Lee did not give consistant statements or that he knows something that he has not told LE.

We all have a right to our different opinions.[/QUOTE]

Kinda O/T but kinda not....Someone close to me was murdered last year. I gave my honest statement to LE and never even thought twice about needing legal counsel. IMO, you are correct....If you didnt have anything to do with the crime and told the truth legal counsel isnt needed!

 

[Chilly Willy]

Thanks What's, my question is the same, I have googled it but still can not find the answer, did the ME have to have the Father's dna to perform Nuclear DNA testing to compare to a known profile of Caylee?

It's right in the link provided. They used a "known profile" of Caylee's DNA to determine that the remains are her. The father's DNA was not needed. The only time the father and mother's DNA would be needed to make an identification is when there is no known sample from the victim.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

I had the horrible thought that perhaps the whole family is getting lawyers so they can take the fifth at trial and thereby protect casey. Appear as if they may have done something in the aftermath of the crime, etc, that could jeopardize their legal status and then they do not have to testify against casey. It struck me as weird that the Anthonys asked for immunity when there was no hint by prosecution that they were in danger of bing charged for anything. Setting it all up so they don't have to testify?

They can take the Fifth all day every day, but, that speaks volumes to a jury.

 

[chicagofa13]

Interesting that Lee isn't using the same attorney CA and GA are using. I wonder why.

I heard this news on WFTV right after the presser so there's probably no link yet. I'll check for one. The reporters did name the attorney but I can't remember it (dang memory!)

IMO they should each have a separate attorney. If they become defendants they would need separate counsel.

 

[passionflower]

He's retained an attorney for one of two reasons (or both): 1) He's involved with the cover up or helped KC 2) This has to do with the paternity of Caylee.

I am sick to my stomach. I'm going to go hug my daughter,

and with LA temper LA is liable to do or say something that a lawyer can get LA to hush up. The whole 'A' family under bus now and kc won't help the'A' family out like the 'A's helped kc.

 

[diablo]

Then maybe Lee is getting a lawyer to sue those that started this rumor about him.

that would be a very, very long list.

 

[Katana]

Of course he's not. I agree, it's horrible that people continue to even discuss the possibility based on nothing but a rumor spread by a media person who is rarely right about anything.

Caylee had physical characteristics that we don't see in the Anthonys, like her huge eyes. She obviously inherited those from someone outside of the family.

From what I have read about children of incest, it is more likely for their offspring to show physical characteristics that neither parents displayed.

This is how I understand it.

It is actually normal for children conceived in incest to present recessive traits. Recessive traits are rarer than dominant traits and they only manifest when inherited by both parents. The dominant traits prevail unless both parents carry the same recessive trait. This makes it even more likely for the offspring of related parents to present with the recessive traits even though neither of the parents showed those traits.

I don't know about eye size, but Caylee's brown eyes is actually a dominant trait. As is her brown hair, thick hair, skin pigmentation, unattached earlobes, and full lips. These features would be better proof that her parents were NOT related since she presents these dominant traits over the recessive ones.

 

[WholeLottaRosie]

Since when does a meter man who finds the body of a child need a lawyer?

Everyone has the right to hire legal representation or seek legal advice should the need arise. No doubt with the discovery of Caylee's body, George, Cindy and Lee are all going to come under question and suspicion will be cast on their roles - if any - in the death and disposal of Caylee.

He should have got a lawyer a long time ago, IMO.

Hey, lawyers are good people. Everyone should have one. LOL I love both of mine.

 

[3dogmom]

Considering this case is under the microscope of the media: Anyone involved be it family, witness, or friend, would be stupid to not retain council.

 

[YellowDog]

Then maybe Lee is getting a lawyer to sue those that started this rumor about him.

I wouldn't blame him for that. He must feel like vultures are after him.

 

[shelbar53]

It's right in the link provided. They used a "known profile" of Caylee's DNA to determine that the remains are her. The father's DNA was not needed. The only time the father and mother's DNA would be needed to make an identification is when there is no known sample from the victim.

Ok then adding to truths post. Why cant the defense say...you used some joe schmoos' DNA info, then how do we know that is caylee?

I also agree with the other posters comment about, when LP made that comment about who the father is, why didnt the A's say something then? They commented about everything else.

Did we hear all the phone calls and read all the transcripts from Lee? What was that about passing notes back and forth from Baez and the A's and casey. Maybe Lee is in hot water for stuff we dont even know about yet. But I do find it odd, that today he gets an Attorney.

What about brad? Is he still the attorney?

 

[amethyst221]

In all fairness to LA, I've already heard at least one criminal lawyer/pundit on tv arguing that items from the A home being found at the scene of the remains doesn't necessarily doom Casey, since her brother might have done it. It isn't impossible that Casey's team could raise reasonable doubt by claiming something like that, all the while not expecting he'd actually get charged or anything (well, other than humiliated, etc.). Reasonable doubt. Does the attorney do civil work? Maybe LA wants to sue people for slander and libel.

 

[chicoliving]

George and Cindy Anthony were told the remains where their granddaughter's Friday afternoon. The Anthonys were secluded in their home with their son, Lee.

Lee's lawyer, Thomas Luka, said the Anthonys were devastated by the news. They had long held out hope their granddaughter would be found alive.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18318370/detail.html#-

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

It's right in the link provided. They used a "known profile" of Caylee's DNA to determine that the remains are her. The father's DNA was not needed. The only time the father and mother's DNA would be needed to make an identification is when there is no known sample from the victim.

Thank you Chilly. I finally got it.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Ok then adding to truths post. Why cant the defense say...you used some joe schmoos' DNA info, then how do we know that is caylee?

I also agree with the other posters comment about, when LP made that comment about who the father is, why didnt the A's say something then? They commented about everything else.

Did we hear all the phone calls and read all the transcripts from Lee? What was that about passing notes back and forth from Baez and the A's and casey. Maybe Lee is in hot water for stuff we dont even know about yet. But I do find it odd, that today he gets an Attorney.

What about brad? Is he still the attorney?

They did not use joe schmoo's DNA, they used a known sample of Caylee's own DNA. :waitasec:

Actually, there have been a great number of things that the A's have not commented on. Maybe Lee is in hot water, but then again maybe he's not. Why assume the worst?

 

[Chilly Willy]

Thank you Chilly. I finally got it.

I knew you would

 

[debs]

Chilly is right. Nuclear DNA tests are done on the nucleus of the victim's sample and compared to the sample of the presumed victim. In this case, Caylee's DNA was on record, via numerous samples (Jesse's blood test, the hair brush, the hair sample, the tooth brushes....just to name a few). All they had to do was make the comparison, examining the NUCLEUS of the victim sample.

Why is this going 'round and 'round. The rumor of her paternity doesn't belong here.

 

[BetsyB]

From what I have read about children of incest, it is more likely for their offspring to show physical characteristics that neither parents displayed.

This is how I understand it.

It is actually normal for children conceived in incest to present recessive traits. Recessive traits are rarer than dominant traits and they only manifest when inherited by both parents. The dominant traits prevail unless both parents carry the same recessive trait. This makes it even more likely for the offspring of related parents to present with the recessive traits even though neither of the parents showed those traits.

I don't know about eye size, but Caylee's brown eyes is actually a dominant trait. As is her brown hair, thick hair, skin pigmentation, unattached earlobes, and full lips. These features would be better proof that her parents were NOT related since she presents these dominant traits over the recessive ones.

If you're talking about Mendelian inheritance of traits, kids of incest still have the same statistical likelihood of certain traits appearing as the offspring of anyone else with similar phenotype and genotype.

Eye color really can't be used as evidence of anything. It's not inherited, as many believe, in a strictly Mendelian, dominant-recessive way. That's why my blue-eyed parents had one child with brown eyes, one with green eyes, one with gray eyes, and one with hazel eyes.

It's not reasonable to draw conclusions based on physical appearance--it tells only a tiny fraction of an individual's genetic story.