Lee Has An Attorney! REVISIT OLD THREAD

[Imajica]

The article now says "Lee's lawyer, Thomas Luka" instead of "Their lawyer, Thomas Luka" I think the WFTV corrected themselves. George and Cindy's lawyer, Brad Conway, is also quoted in the article.

It looks like Thomas Luka just represents Lee.

Phew, I'm glad Conway is still around. He actually seemed to have their best interests at heart. It's good that WFTV fixed their error. Thanks for catching that for me.

Here is Lee's new attorney's website in case anyone missed it a few pages back:

www.lukalaw.com

 

[Brini]

I don't understand why you all would think that Lee was Caylee's father.

Do you really really believe what KC said about Lee trying to have sex with her? If she was being honest about that, it seems like it would be the only time she ever told the truth in her life. This evil demon does not know what telling the truth means. She would say anything to get attention, she is a liar, a theif, and a murderer. So why do you all believe that what she said about Lee is the truth?

I think LA probably got an attorney because he is a part of a family that is all under investigation. Whether or not he had anything to do with a coverup we don't know, but I am sure that just as the A's are being investigated for giving these conflicting statements, he is being investigated for the same as well.

By the way, with how promiscuous KC was I'm sure there are many men who could be the baby's Father.

I agree. That's a very hurtful rumor. The family is creating enough problems for themselves. They do not need us making more stuff up.

Incest against a daughter/sister happens in homes where the males are dominent and feel entitiled, and the wife is subordinate. The A home is matriarchial. CA rules, fairly closely followed by KC. The males appear to step around both of them.

Moreover, KC is not afraid of either LA or GA, she is afriad of CA.

The whole, nasty, ugly, incest rumor needs to be dropped, unless there is some REAL substantiation somewhere. And, there isn't, because the family dynamics are all wrong for it.

The next time I see that rumor, I hope I see a substantiating link. Otherwise, it's not worthy of us.

There is nothing suspicious about LA hiring an attorney. The family is under investigation. LA needs an attorney to keep him from saying anything that would further incriminate KC, and to keep him from getting himself and his parents into trouble for interfering with the investigation.

The timing is not suspicious. They found the body. Everyone in the family needs a mouthpiece.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

**Respectfully Snipped**
Wouldn't you want a lawyer helping you if there was someone like her in your life in this situation? I would.
My honest answer is no, I would not feel the need for legal representation if I had given LE consistant statements and cooperated fully. hat is an honest response from me.
My guess is that Lee did not give consistant statements or that he knows something that he has not told LE.
We all have a right to our different opinions.

I am with you. I would see no reason to hire an attorney if my conscience was clear that I had done everything I possibly could to find my niece.

I can see where he would hire one though, because he KNOWS that SOMEONE in that family is getting ready to be thrown under the bus.

 

[Chilly Willy]

grief or getting their stories straight?????

Unbelieveable. :furious:

 

[absolut_alexis]

grief or getting their stories straight?????

Grief. Grief and memories.

 

[Brini]

Since when does a meter man who finds the body of a child need a lawyer?

Everyone has the right to hire legal representation or seek legal advice should the need arise. No doubt with the discovery of Caylee's body, George, Cindy and Lee are all going to come under question and suspicion will be cast on their roles - if any - in the death and disposal of Caylee.

He should have got a lawyer a long time ago, IMO.

The meter reader doesn't need an attorney. The company appoints a lawyer as a matter of course, when anything legal happens as a part of transacting business.

 

[lawlady84]

OH! GA/CA's lawyer might have advised Lee to get his own - GA/CA will have spousal immunity, which means they can't testify against each other or testify as to what the other person said, but Lee wouldn't be covered.

Also, if GA/CA are fully cooperative now and there is no "bombshell" like GA seeing/smelling something on the gas can day, I don't think they'll be in much trouble. People will chalk up their absurd behavior to the old addage "if you think something enough maybe it will come true" etc etc. I still feel awful for them... geeze.

ALSO BIG QUESTION- to any of the litigation/trial based lawyers/law lovers (Miracles Happen, where are you?)- Could Jesse's testimony that KC told him that Lee came in her bedroom be introduced in court, or would it be hearsay? I'm pretty sure Nate's testimony that tony told him that KC told him that GA(?) abused her would be excluded since its a story of a story... but wouldn't KC have to get on the stand really to get this stuff admitted? Unless she pressed charges now (since I don't think there is a statute of limitations for sexual abuse anymore...? (not sure about FL actually))

Thanks!!

 

[Brini]

Since when does an innocent uncle of a murder victim need an attorney?

Watching the Jailhouse conversations between LA and KC, I felt he was going through the motions. Like asking basic questions he would be expected to ask because he knew he was being recorded. If he didnt assist KC, he surely knew once details were out. I believe KC owns him somehow, perhaps via the DNA question of Caylee's parentage or through years of brother and sister having the goods on each other. DNA connecting him as father would at minimum mean he withheld pertinent info early in the case.

As far as an atty for LA and questioning whether he just lacks enough skills to deal with all this, heck, he managed to keep out of the limelight almost the whole time and blatantly refused early DNA and fingerprint samples. He is a tough nut and likely just as calloused as KC. Remember also, that an Atty can also represent clients in book deals, movies and other financial "opportunities". this family is so dysfunctional its sickening.

Over-speculation. He's hiring a lawyer because it's appropriate to the situation, especially now that the remains have been identified.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

On this issue, I don't recall it ever being discussed, but in one jailhouse visit with CA and GA, KC was talking about Caylee and said "she is the best of the four of us." That struck me very odd. Of course, you would include the grandparents as "part of the child", but why would you include your brother? Maybe I'm wrong, but I just found that quite peculiar.

I got this all wrong, then, when I saw it. I took it to mean that out of the four of them (in the household of Cindy, George, Casey and Caylee) that Caylee was the best of all of them. She represented the best of the whole family. Even if Casey had included Lee in this statement (as I can now see how it could mean that, too) I still wouldn't think it odd. But my kids always make fun of me for taking everything at face value. . .

 

[Macushla]

I am with you. I would see no reason to hire an attorney if my conscience was clear that I had done everything I possibly could to find my niece.

I can see where he would hire one though, because he KNOWS that SOMEONE in that family is getting ready to be thrown under the bus.

I don't know, Turbo - in ordinary circumstances, I would not feel the need for an attorney if I had been open, honest and up front with my answers to their questions. However, if the circumstances included Casey - I think I just might want a lawyer considering how often she lies and how she seems to have no qualms about it. In this case, I just might want a lawyer because I think Casey is going to say whatever she thinks might get her out of jail - and if it means implacating her brother, mother, father, etc. she will do it and not care.

 

[Brini]

Well, since there are so many rumors that many assume are fact (ie German Gonzalez when the meter reader's name was really Roy Kronk), I think he's smart to get legal representation, especially if he didn't have any connection with this whole sad case...except to be the uncle of a murdered child and brother of her alledged murderer. Despite the conjecture, I've as yet seen no concrete proof he had anything to do with all this. If indeed he is a father-to-be, he's got a lot more than just his reputation riding on the outcome of this case.

He didn't hire a lawyer. The company hired the lawyer, as a matter of course. It's routine. He was at work when he found the remains.

 

[Brini]

1. There are many reasons people get attorneys.
2. If I was in his shoes, I would also get an attorney.

Here's a flip side of the story that no one seems to mention:
Why now? Maybe he didn't think it was really Caylee before. The truth really hit home and he's panicked so he's hired one for legal counsel. - To protect Caylee, to protect himself against Casey's slander, etc.

So would I.

 

[shelbar53]

They had 6 months to ge theor stories straight so I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say frief.

Ok so what IF lee is the dad, there are worse things...like oh, lets see, how about murdering your own child {IMO if I had to choose..murdering your child would be worse}. Well I digress, IF Lee were, wouldnt that be better for the defense? They can say...poor casey she was never right in the head after that. She carried great remorse and guilt blah blah blah. maybe Lee got wind of what baez is going to use as a defense and thats why he hired an attorney.

 

[Brini]

Being that the identification of Caylee was based on Nuclear DNA (combination of both mother and father), LE now knows who Caylee's father is. Could this be the reason Lee hired an attorney?

LA hired an attorney, because the remains were found. Anyone would do the same.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I agree. That's a very hurtful rumor. The family is creating enough problems for themselves. They do not need us making more stuff up.

Incest against a daughter/sister happens in homes where the males are dominent and feel entitiled, and the wife is subordinate. The A home is matriarchial. CA rules, fairly closely followed by KC. The males appear to step around both of them.

Moreover, KC is not afraid of either LA or GA, she is afriad of CA.

The whole, nasty, ugly, incest rumor needs to be dropped, unless there is some REAL substantiation somewhere. And, there isn't, because the family dynamics are all wrong for it.

The next time I see that rumor, I hope I see a substantiating link. Otherwise, it's not worthy of us.

There is nothing suspicious about LA hiring an attorney. The family is under investigation. LA needs an attorney to keep him from saying anything that would further incriminate KC, and to keep him from getting himself and his parents into trouble for interfering with the investigation.

The timing is not suspicious. They found the body. Everyone in the family needs a mouthpiece.

According to the Dept. of Justice incest is the most common form of child abuse. (Child Sexual Abuse - Crime Prevention Journal)

http://www.wcasa.org/docs/incest 04.pdf

 

[Brini]

I don't know the legal aspects, but he has every right to keep that a secret. I doubt that it's true - but if it is, nobody deserves to be harassed for something like that. Yes, most of us consider it wrong or whatever but he has the right to a life of privacy. It's illegal but I do

I don't think it happened, because: 1) the family dynamics are all wrong for it, 2) KC would have made that info, if it was true, or even could be THOUGHT true part of her personal drama.

But, even if it WAS true, I agree that it would not be pertinent to the case, in any way.

 

[lawlady84]

Oh and last random rant from me - I've worked on the same floor as white collar criminal defense attorneys, and let me tell you, I'd say "big time" (or big time wannabe) crim defense attorneys are what give lawyers a bad name. Some of these guys REALLY only cared about "winning" - who cares if you throw an old lady under the bus and expose every personal secret of the plaintiff, if you get your client off, you get the glory and another notch in your belt.

JB reminds me of a small-time one of these guys in training... If anyone in my family was within 10 feet of a trial like this, I'd get them lawyered up and sent on a vacation in the country just to avoid being blamed

 

[Brini]

I am NO fan of LA...I think he potentially helped KC in some way BUT, I also think there is the possiblity that he is getting ready for an attack from the defense. I think Jose is going to be as SHADY as he needs to be in the effort to win this case (as been proven thus far). All the defense needs to do is prove reasonable doubt so therefore, regardless as to whether any of the A's had anything to do with it, KC, is going to be willing to throw them ALL, collectively under the bus in an effort of self preservation.

I have my own feelings on the A's....I think they all had a hand in a possible cover up after the fact, whether they realized it or not, I am trying to reserve judgment (and not doing a good job most days, after all, CA washed pants, LA and his actions with the puter, GA with the car, decomp in the trunk, etc. etc.etc). I bounce back and forth in the seat of this roller coaster. Some days I believe they have known for quite some time that KC killed Caylee and tried to cover up for her. Then there are other days when I want to believe in the love that is SUPPOSED to be felt for a child and I wonder if they really truly wanted to believe her so much that they thought the non-existant nanny was JUST THAT GOOD at making the finger point at KC and they were trying to stop that from happening (in a "backwards sort of way)

I guess my point is, sorry, O/T, this whole case has made me crazy and question humanity and how ANY ONE can turn their back on a 2 year old child and remain silent. I hope LA has a good lawyer because even IF he had nothing to do with this, KC is not going to have a problem with the big finger of justice being pointing at ANYONE other than herself...JMHO of course

That wouldn't surprise me, in the least.

 

[raeann]

I agree. That's a very hurtful rumor. The family is creating enough problems for themselves. They do not need us making more stuff up.

Incest against a daughter/sister happens in homes where the males are dominent and feel entitiled, and the wife is subordinate. The A home is matriarchial. CA rules, fairly closely followed by KC. The males appear to step around both of them.

Moreover, KC is not afraid of either LA or GA, she is afriad of CA.

The whole, nasty, ugly, incest rumor needs to be dropped, unless there is some REAL substantiation somewhere. And, there isn't, because the family dynamics are all wrong for it.

The next time I see that rumor, I hope I see a substantiating link. Otherwise, it's not worthy of us.

There is nothing suspicious about LA hiring an attorney. The family is under investigation. LA needs an attorney to keep him from saying anything that would further incriminate KC, and to keep him from getting himself and his parents into trouble for interfering with the investigation.

The timing is not suspicious. They found the body. Everyone in the family needs a mouthpiece.

I agree....my first thought was that if I were him my first assignment for the attorney would be to begin putting together lawsuits against every person or media outlet that has been spewing out this slander. He definitely has reason and plenty of evidence to support that this has been done. There is absolutely no one who can even remotely substantiate what they are saying in this regard. LP is on video repeating this accusation over and over and over again, and he NEVER says it is my theory, or I think it is possible, HE STATES IT AS FACT.

 

[Chilly Willy]

I think all the speculation on this thread, as well as in the past, shows exactly why Lee needs an attorney. How many people here have expressed the opinion that he's guilty of something? - doesn't matter what, doesn't matter if there's a single iota of evidence against him, fry the dude! Ask questions later.

He should have lawyered up long before now.