Legal Q&A Thread for R Hornsby

[rhornsby]

Can we add on years for bagging her, transferring her in the trunk of a car, and dumping her in a trash strewn swamp?

Exactly why I doubt any offer would come near the 8 year mark now.

 

[JBean]

Yes, the F.B.I. could tell the prosecutors over the phone their tentative results before they put them in writing or release the final results. Under Florida law, a LEO is only required to provide his final report to the defense, not notes, or tentative reports. (However, if the person is part of aen established science, they are held to their scientific field's own standards on report writing and not retention.)

However, the death penalty was put back on the table eight months ago in April. Whatever supports the State's justification for the death penalty has to have been released by now.

Yet another interesting piece of information. This thread has been truly helpful.

 

[AZlawyer]

I will find the thread for you, but yes, we know that for certain, it was in one of the doc dumps the police had authorization to " record and trace George, Cindy and Lee' s phones." Interesting. I thought they likely were, but never knew for certain. This video is from many months go, but I had never seen it. When you get to section 3:40 you will see the authorization for the home land lines and cell phones of George, Cindy and Lee's cells.
YouTube- Casey Anthony Docs Include Text Messages, Reports
__________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y27Ki1e4a1w ( August 7th WESH news)

I don't know if this has already been pointed out on this thread...but a "pen register and trap and trace device," which was what LE requested, would not record the content of conversations.

 

[Blaise]

The only way I could see it happen is if Casey testified that she completely lied about the entire Nanny story - and then give some type of explanation consistent with Ugly Coping.

In law, once a person testifies they completely lied about a story, there is nothing to impeach them on anymore - because they have already admitted all the previous statements were a lie.

So the judge is unlikely to allow the State to ask over and over again that each individual statement was a lie; since she would have already unequivocally stated so.

At this point the State would have to be prepared to cross-examine her about her new story and it would be up the jury to decide how much weight to give to both her explanation for originally lying and her new story.

Would there be any way to get this in without Casey taking the stand? And is there any possibility that Casey *will* testify?

Blaise

 

[RR0004]

I recall reading where the duct tape wrapped around the skull in such a way that it created a hair mat that needed to be cut from the tape. I also believe that it is reasonable to ascertain that a 2 year old would not have the fine motor dexterity or strength required to remove a piece of super sticky tape from their mouth.

Secondly, I work in psych, and believe me, there are any number of sinister reasons someone would place a red heart sticker on tape over the mouth of a dead toddler.

Have a link? I was never clear about the mat...but I can imagine being in the elements all that time may have had something to do with it.

 

[rhornsby]

I don't know if this has already been pointed out on this thread...but a "pen register and trap and trace device," which was what LE requested, would not record the content of conversations.

I concur.

 

[rhornsby]

Just wanted to further my point about not trusting these so called reporters or their legal sources:

On my blog, someone asked for my reaction to an Examiner article that could be found at the following link: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...rlando-Florida-Is-Jose-Baez-suborning-perjury

I read the article and posted the below response on my blog (and in was re-posted elsewhere). Needless to say, the article magically disappeared - I am sure I had nothing to do with it. But seriously... what amateurs.

November 27th, 2009 at 13:49 | #6
@Anti-MD Wow, what a sensationalized story. I think the accuracy of that story can be summed up from a quote it had: “purely conjecture based on the information supplied by one anonymous source.”

First off, it is my understanding that Marti Mackenzie no longer works for Baez. So who would have the media contacts to set up paid network interviews for the witnesses – this theory is up there with the lone gunman theory.

And I would like some statutory citations to the felony for putting false information into a court file. I have never heard of that one.

As for his sources that are worried about their livelihood, he only has like three employees in his firm. How hard could it be to figure out who the source is?

 

[TakeNote]

please mr. hornsby

could you show us where to go and what to do to view current commissary and visitor logs at the jail for kc :biggrin:

 

[jandkmom]

How many cases do you normally handle at one time?

 

[rhornsby]

please mr. hornsby

could you show us where to go and what to do to view current commissary and visitor logs at the jail for kc :biggrin:

Send a public records request the Orange County jail: www.bestjail.com

Don't you just love the name?

 

[rhornsby]

How many cases do you normally handle at one time?

More than 10. But it depends on how many serious cases I have going on. Right now I have been turning away cases.

 

[jandkmom]

Do you think the defense will be allow all to Texas Equusearch documents?

If anyone in KC's family was going to be charged with a crime, would they have already been charged or would the prosecution wait until closer to the trial?

 

[rhornsby]

Do you think the defense will be allow all to Texas Equusearch documents?

If anyone in KC's family was going to be charged with a crime, would they have already been charged or would the prosecution wait until closer to the trial?

1. With the questions that have now been raised, yes.
2. Yes, but the state has to tread lightly here. You start charging her family members and suddenly the State's motives become highly scrutinized. They have little to gain by charging a family member for something now.

 

[luvmygarden]

Do you think Casey's age will give her an advantage with the jury?

 

[seekingjustice**]

Based on all that we know right now, what sort out outcome for Casey would you expect?

 

[Kentjbkent]

Mr. Hornsby,

Regarding the credibility of Jill Kerley's claims of being duct taped by Mr, Kronk, do you think this posting by "Darlene", purportedly the mother of Jill Kerley, written and posted online on August 10, 2009 (BEFORE Kronk became defense suspect per motions filed) will affect the credibility of Jill Kerley's claims?

She states her daughter, Jill Renee Kerley, has past done jail time, was also arrested this year and faces court for same at time of writing the letter (Aug 10, 2009), is Bipolar , has cancer, and apparently writes bad checks too.

Thoughts on her "prior bad acts"?

http://www.forallthewaysyoucare.com/user_profile/?userid=8800783096245393720
(user ID for Darlene)

http://www.forallthewaysyoucare.com/view_story/?storyid=4726418206195651796&viewmode=true#

(posting by Darlene on mental status of Jill Kersey)

He was married on October 3, 1992 to a Jill Renee Kerley in Monroe County, FL. Law enforcement is keeping Mr. Kronk under wraps while they investigate their ...
www.topix.com/forum/city/union-park-fl/TFBNARG9N2OG6UJI8/p671

 

[mydailyopinions]

Would there be any way to get this in without Casey taking the stand? And is there any possibility that Casey *will* testify?

Blaise

JMHO, but if Casey takes the stand with her "I don't give a crap attitude," she will forget which lie she told when, and still try to lay on all the BS she has done since day 1..
Too, wouldn't she be required to answer all questions unless stricken by the judge? If that is the case, poor little Casey can't invoke the 5th on the stand..

They put her on the stand, she is toast..JMHO

 

[The World According]

I don't know if this has already been pointed out on this thread...but a "pen register and trap and trace device," which was what LE requested, would not record the content of conversations.

The ACTUAL PHONE CONVERSATIONS WEREN'T RECORDED, just the numbers of calls and their cell pings to trace their movement around the city, but those records were "sealed" at the time. I wonder if they remain sealed and what else we haven't seen that is sealed. I put the link up of Yuri's authorization he obtained to trace and record , their words, not mine. I apologize if it caused any confusion. I think it was brilliant of them to trace all of the Anthonys cell pings to see where they were going and who they were talking to, to discern if any of them did anything to aide Casey. In the Wesh TV report they show the actual authorization. I wonder now if they were able to do the same on the infamous bat phones now that they indeed have those phone numbers. LOL!!! I asked the mods to please change the title to "pen register recorded", it implies the numbers, not words were recorded. We know that Tony allowed them to do this on his phone, but I wonder if they did this on Dominick's phone as well, or if him asserting he was part of the defense team protected him. With respect, and much appreciation I am asking the question. Thank you Mr. Hornsby for all of your time here, and thank you AZ lawyer for all you do here.

 

[MD MOMMY]

I asked a while back but it got lost in the shuffle:waitasec:

From the documents released so far who do you see as being the best witness FOR the defense? Prosecution?

P.S. My kids will now have a zhu zhu pet for X-mas. I see you took your brothers plug off your blog, as if he ever really needed it anyway:woohoo:

P.S.S. Your track record is pretty impressive. For anyone interested please see... http://www.richardhornsby.com/about/cases/2009.html

 

[Kentjbkent]

Just wanted to further my point about not trusting these so called reporters or their legal sources:

On my blog, someone asked for my reaction to an Examiner article that could be found at the following link: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...rlando-Florida-Is-Jose-Baez-suborning-perjury

I read the article and posted the below response on my blog (and in was re-posted elsewhere). Needless to say, the article magically disappeared - I am sure I had nothing to do with it. But seriously... what amateurs.
November 27th, 2009 at 13:49 | #6
@Anti-MD Wow, what a sensationalized story. I think the accuracy of that story can be summed up from a quote it had: “purely conjecture based on the information supplied by one anonymous source.”

First off, it is my understanding that Marti Mackenzie no longer works for Baez. So who would have the media contacts to set up paid network interviews for the witnesses – this theory is up there with the lone gunman theory.

And I would like some statutory citations to the felony for putting false information into a court file. I have never heard of that one.

As for his sources that are worried about their livelihood, he only has like three employees in his firm. How hard could it be to figure out who the source is?

No, I agree. It doesn't appear that your comments had anything to do with his blog from being taken down (LOL!).

He removed/moved it to place on a different blogsight (along with his other 22 articles) as he disagreed with examiner.com decision not to post his 8 page expose on Baez.