Legalities of Unauthorized Family Visits Via Laptop

[cyberborg]

New Websleuther and first time poster here, so be kind! My mind wants to run to a little lower hi-tech -- I think there is a strong possibility that Casey and her family are passing computer documents and videos back and forth via JB's computer. It certainly is not instantaneous conversation, but would afford them private communication without the problems of internet and aircard. And with no hard copy piece of paper, jail officials would have nothing to review.

Also, given that most of us believe LA was primarily addressing Casey with his repeated "CMA's", I believe he may have been recording himself with his built-in webcam at the memorial. Then JB could have later shown this to Casey as a personal communication from her brother that he will keep his promise to her.

Sneakernet? :woohoo:

 

[Searchfortruth]

One thing Baez may not know is LE is capable of "recording" anything which is live on that laptop. In our area, they are told not to use the internet, but allowed computers. If they do go on the internet, it is "grabbed" by a system LE has and it all becomes part of the case, because the attorneys have to sign an agreement before they can take their laptops into the jail.

I believe LE calls this "sniffing the traffic" they use a promiscuous air card...allows LE transparency. I think this is done with all laptop's brought into correction's right ?

 

[Searchfortruth]

A question here, can they subpoena JB's laptop if they have probable cause...

 

[sumbunny]

nothing stopping the A's from using MSN, a camera and mic to communicate with KC.

I feel they are communicating via webcam and some kind of messenger.

All laptops now have webcams and mics built into the screen..she would never need to touch the keypad at all.

I believe the visitation request was simply a ploy to throw off anyone who may think
they are communicating and to show their continual support for the tot monster

 

[momtective]

A question here, can they subpoena JB's laptop if they have probable cause...

Now wouldn't that just be the icing on the cake! :woohoo:
Plz, Plz, Plz let there be probable cause!raying:

 

[SWEETSPYRIT]

And that would keep the Anthonys and Baez from doing it? Hardly. They ALL believe themselves to be above the law.

My guess would be they have used air cards for their computers and JB provides a way for them to have conferences by way of the internet. There can be no sound heard when she is with her attorney, and it would be the perfect set up for them to AGAIN try to circumvent the rules.

Could this be what JB wants the PRIVATE hearing with the judge for without the prosecution?

I hope they were doing it and LE caught all of it on tape or through a tap on the air cards. (that can be done as can keystrokes)

My exact thoughts!!!! You just beat me to the post LOL I have no doubt they have been in constant touch with KC and it started when they all quit whinning about the "taping of their visits". And, I think JB has been "caught" or found out OOPS can't do that and is trying to figure out how to get out of this one. I have no doubt that they will do everything and anything that they think they can get away with.

 

[kew17]

If this has been posted, please forgive me. But felt it would be worth sticking into the conversation.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey Anthony use of laptops in jail Nov 18.pdf

I find it silly that the law allowed public defenders their laptops, but not private defenders. Oh well, JB objected because he/tot mom weren't being treated fair and obviously won his way.

 

[Melanie]

thats a good possibility that they did indeed do that. are there restrictions on laptops?? i did find it odd that LA needed a laptop during the memorial. i hope LE looks into this or already has. i wouldnt put anything past that sneaky JB!

Another great sleuth. You know, I never even notice LE looking at that laptop while he was spouting that embarassing ""CMA" code. If there was a web cam on there, he could certainly have been hooked up to JB in jail while they were "pretending"" to go over her case. LA is sneaky, JB is sneaky - I wouldn't put it past either of them (IMHO).

Best,

Melanie

 

[nyvictoria]

Another great sleuth. You know, I never even notice LE looking at that laptop while he was spouting that embarassing ""CMA" code. If there was a web cam on there, he could certainly have been hooked up to JB in jail while they were "pretending"" to go over her case. LA is sneaky, JB is sneaky - I wouldn't put it past either of them (IMHO).

Best,

Melanie

Maybe they were recording it for KC to view later? Would that be against the rules?

 

[Melanie]

A question here, can they subpoena JB's laptop if they have probable cause...

I hope the pros sees this post.. If they can show him logged on to a certain site during the time of the memorial, it could show he's bringing what I would call "contraband" into the jail. She had to ask permission to watch the funeral or whatever it was since they haven't buried the poor child yet.

So, yah, if JB thinks he can do whatever he wants for his client, I hope the pros is on his arss.

note: not that I think she didn't have a right to see the memorial, it's just if she went around the jailhouse rules to do it is wrong. JB knows that.

Peace,

Melanie

 

[Melanie]

Maybe they were recording it for KC to view later? Would that be against the rules?

I honestly don't know the answer to that question. If later means when she's released from prison - no prob (as if). But if JB brings it in like he does everything else from People Magazine, to the bracelet, etc - then "I" think it would be contraband.

Prison rules and jail rules are different, but it's my understanding that she just can't have a people magazine while others can't (she mentioned she read the people article). I doubt it's on the "book list" but again, I could be wrong.. I'm sure the jail doesn't want the other prisoners reading about the tot momster.

Best,

Melanie

 

[zoey]

they have mentioned in the past of jb showing her some of the coverage that was done and that her and jb were going to laugh at it.....that was back in the summer so it has been done.....

 

[Seebra]

Speaking on the tecnnical aspects.. As long as JB has wireless internet access at the jail and LA had internet access at the memorial. Both laptops had INTERGRATED Webcams, then yes this is likely possibility.

However, as an IT person let me share why I do not think it happened... it is absolutely possible the Jail has wireless internet but it can be blocked with an encryption key securing the access points. This means it makes it possible that JB could have a laptop but not internet access but the jail would have to give them that encryption key to connect to the access point. Ex: at the university where I provide support.. someone can not walk in off the street and access the wireless internet unless we register the MAC address of the computer and give them the encryption key. Even if we give it to the once.. we can choose to block that MAC permentantly whether or not we have given them a key in the past.
Same way at the church.. in both cases I would think the networks at the church and the prision would be playing a VERY DANGEROUS game with their network security not to have the wireless locked down. If you know of someone or yourselves do not have your wireless network secured then find out how to do it and get it done. I could look at my unsecured networks in my neighborhood and see exactly what is on a computer. I could several nefarious things. Do I??? no.. it is against the code of ethics.


So.. do I think JB or Lee used the internet during the church memorial to broadcast to one another. No, because I am POSITIVE the government owned jail HAS A SECURED network.

JB can bring a laptop into the jail. But I bet dollars to donuts he is NOT GETTING internet access.

But what if he has his own internet access card?

 

[Gma Kat]

Okay techies - help me out here. Is it possible that KC and the A's are communicating via computer, but not via the internet? Couldn't they just video record a message to KC and vice-versa. No internet needed, sorta like snail mail only video mail delivered via JB???? Not detectable by anyone this way? Also, couldn't KC and JB have viewed whatever news/NG they saw the same way? By downloading the show/news event and then simply replaying the video for KC?

 

[Tuba]

Based on the jail videos and the periods when Miss A. was released on bail and fled to her attorney's office, her ersatz communications with George and Cindy are not a cause for concern. When there was back and forth between her and her parents, it was singularly unproductive. Her desire and ambition seems to be to avoid real exchanges. She emotes, avoids and lies but says nothing worthwhile.

 

[Dihan]

They want to get their story straight now, so they need to communicate,imho

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I believe LE calls this "sniffing the traffic" they use a promiscuous air card...allows LE transparency. I think this is done with all laptop's brought into correction's right ?

It is here. Not only in county jails but the workhouse, and the state correctional facilities.

It really is a good way to get information and is admissible in court because it is considered contraband and they have signed statements explaining that any electronic communication will be monitored.

Most think that is just the videos of the visits, but it is not. With JB's lack of experience and his narcissistic attitude, it would be hilarious to see them caught and for ALL their "laptop communications" to be aired on national TV.

Wonder if there is any ? ROFL!

 

[MAMABEAR]

One thing Baez may not know is LE is capable of "recording" anything which is live on that laptop. In our area, they are told not to use the internet, but allowed computers. If they do go on the internet, it is "grabbed" by a system LE has and it all becomes part of the case, because the attorneys have to sign an agreement before they can take their laptops into the jail.

Hope I'm not confused here. So LE has access to JB's laptop if he lets KC use it? If they see anythang JB or Casey says----can that be used in Court? Can JB get in trouble even tho he has the att/client privilege? Maybe it would be the same as att/client touching? Something that is against the rules?

 

[MAMABEAR]

Why can't somebody smart nuff call or email the jail and ask them some of these ?s?

 

[SWEETSPYRIT]

Why can't somebody smart nuff call or email the jail and ask them some of these ?s?

I know several that have tried to find out and they are beyond tight lipped. And, that is understandable. We all want to know, but, no one is talking and maybe it is just as well. It would make me sick if something "leaked" out and well, we all know where that would go.