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If it is a fact that the van sustained the damage that night than we know it was misty's family.

The only one misty has never mentioned is Timmy and Chelsea. She has alluded to everyone else. Of course misty could have had the van all by herself too...we never did solidify that little piece of information. misty is certainly capable of dealing with this on her own.

I think so as well. Perhaps if she wasn't home she was out and about in the van. She is really quick to point fingers maybe to take the focus away from herself. IMO she is not what she pretends to be. She is devious and sly like a fox.

I was a wanna be Misty when I was way younger many parallels in our lives. I was 13 had a boyfriend that was 20, didn't go to school, fenced stolen goods, stole to live and generally was a low life petty criminals I can relate to her on many levels.
 
Now that we have all seen the UC tapes, including her parents and Ronald's mother.
I wonder what her fathers next questions will be?
Hank & Lisa come to visit every week, but we don't see the tapes for about a week correct?
 
I am still stunned. Speechless. And sadly, my hopes for Haleigh just took a nosedive.
 
Now that we have all seen the UC tapes, including her parents and Ronald's mother.
I wonder what her fathers next questions will be?
Hank & Lisa come to visit every week, but we don't see the tapes for about a week correct?

Do we have all of them? I have only seen two and snips of the others. The original bust and the "dopeboy" one... have more been released and I missed it?
 
We know that there was a major fight between rc and misty. We were told that happened at 8:30pm. Has the time been confirmed? I can't remember the source of the 8:30pm call. I know Shoey confirmed huge fight that night because the statement from Shoey was the day that rc and he went to FDLE to explain the calls.

IF that many calls were made and TN knew it, she lied to everyone. It solidifies that rc and tn were very aware that something happened to Haleigh. IF tn was not in PP that night...that puts rc smack in the middle of a homicide investigation, as most of us already assumed.

All that's left to figure out are the details. Did misty harm Haleigh or did rc harm Haleigh? Did misty's family help or did tn's family help?

I think you are right about where the Putnam CO LE have been sitting. Or they may be ahead since I am sure they know more than we.
 
Do we have all of them? I have only seen two and snips of the others. The original bust and the "dopeboy" one... have more been released and I missed it?

Those are the only 2 undercover tapes, I have seen also.
I was wondering what jailhouse tapes we have to look forward to. Misty's father will no doubt bring up the UC "BUST" tapes.
thanks!
 
I am still stunned. Speechless. And sadly, my hopes for Haleigh just took a nosedive.

I'm so sorry, Carmel. Many of us came to this conclusion months ago after spending almost every waking hour for a year trying to get to the bottom of this nightmare. We are not as callous as we may seem. Like I said, it's been a very long, strange year.

And nothing would make me happier than to hear that someone dropped Haleigh off at a fire station or WalMart, but I don't really believe that is going to happen. We could hope, but imo, we'd just be deluding ourselves.

Again, I understand your shock and grief. She was a darling little girl who probably loved everybody with everything in her small body, her huge smile, and her big heart.
 
Well, I believe that LE has evidence of a crime and they found it in the MH. Maybe the van also. It makes me still think the pink shirt is significant.
I would like to know how the pink shirt got from Haleigh to wherever it was found. If misty wore it to school (as misty says) then between the time she went to school and came home, it was washed and perhaps even put away.

My reasoning for saying this is CJ said on Levi's Show that the pink shirt was in a drawer and I recall LE saying the Pink Shirt was never worn outside (by the condition it was in). That's leads credence to CJ's remark of it being in a drawer.
 
I really really wanted to clink to that little hope that maybe-just maybe-she was alive, somewhere else. But even I, as optimistic as I can usually be...can't do that anymore. Thank you for your kind response. I needed to hear that, I really really did.
 
Well, I believe that LE has evidence of a crime and they found it in the MH. Maybe the van also. It makes me still think the pink shirt is significant.
I would like to know how the pink shirt got from Haleigh to wherever it was found. If misty wore it to school (as misty says) then between the time she went to school and came home, it was washed and perhaps even put away.

My reasoning for saying this is CJ said on Levi's Show that the pink shirt was in a drawer and I recall LE saying the Pink Shirt was never worn outside (by the condition it was in). That's leads credence to CJ's remark of it being in a drawer.



Misty states in the 911 call that HaLeigh is wearing pajamas.
Then on the police report and the Amber Alert, that she is wearing a pink shirt, and tan shorts.
Then Misty tells us she was wearing a pink Hannah Montana shirt, and underwear.
Then the FBI and Misty walk through the mh and Misty finds the shirt, and she says she found it in the dirty clothes basket and doesn't know how it got there.
LE is surprised when the media tells Hardy in a press statement that Misty said the shirt was found in the laundry. He doesn't correct the misinformation, if it was, and coming from Misty, probably was.
Misty does say why would she point out the pink shirt if she was trying to hide something from the cops? :waitasec:
Now we have CJ and/or LE saying the pink shirt was found in a dresser drawer, and hadn't been worn outside, by the condition it was in, ie, clean?
The Amber Alert was changed as to not knowing what she was wearing after LE finds the shirt in the mh.

And that's just the spin on the pink shirt.
Nothing is said more about the tan shorts.
Nothing more is said about the underwear.
Her shoes were found in the mh, but I don't know if she wore shoes outside normally after school. In the pics we see of her, sometimes she has shoes on, sometimes she doesn't.

I wonder how he could have been working and making 90 calls. How is that even possible. Most businesses don't allow people to walk around with their cell phones do they? Keep it in your locker would seem to me to be a rule. moo

If he was working outside, and no one else was out there, the cell phone pings are all there is to prove he was there, or at least that his cell phone was there, and being used. Anyone could have taken his phone near the tower and used the phone on his behalf to solidify an alibi. So I hope he has real people seeing him the whole time he was suppose to be at work.
However, if he was the one there, making all those phone calls, no wonder they didn't hire him back.

Perhaps that's where TN was that night.
Do we even know what phone they used during the 911 calls?
B/c the impression I got at the time was that Misty didn't have a cell phone of her own.

During the 911 call, RC makes sure to mention the phone is his phone, b/c he has "better" people to call.
Where was Misty's phone? Why didn't she use her own phone to call 911 since RC says he said, "Why are telling me, call 911." She obeys his command and calls, but with his phone? Then why didn't Rc use her phone so she could continue to talk to 911? Imo, he was proving that he had his phone with him at that time, otherwise he would have used her phone, or he would have had her use her phone to call 911 to begin with.

PDM was 16 minutes away, if TN was called between the 911 calls, as I think she was, and she arrived at 3:40 am as it is stated on the police report, she was the distance of PDM when called, closer if she had to get up and dressed, and grap the 8x10 pic of HaLeigh. Perhaps Katrina's house?

Is Katrina's house on the same cell tower as PDM??????

If someone else was using his phone for him, making calls for him near PDM, when did he get his phone back?

Should we believe that Tommy is telling the truth when he says RC called him about 10 pm, and asked him to go check on Misty, and he complies, and knocks on the door but no one answers? Should we just believe Tommy is telling the truth there? If RC gave him other instructions, as to drug dealing, or helping Misty dispose of HaLeigh, would he tell LE that?

Someone from 116 Tyler, says they saw HaLeigh in her home around 2am.
Who was that, and are they telling the truth?

Too many untrustworthy people in this case, it makes one question everything that is said. very frustrating. moo
 
For over a year, the pressure and public opinion has been focused on misty yet misty never caved. It is a darn shame they can't isolate her.
It doesn't seem the pressure even phases her. Sure she freaks out about being locked up, but she's so clueless about how long she'll be in there. Is it all an act, or is she just trying to keep her chin up?

Even if Haleigh wasn't a part of this, Misty would still have to pay some hefty consequenses for the trafficking. She acts like it's all nothing, like they can just make it go away.

I understand what you're saying about isolating her, but with her being social, it might also work to put her out in general population. She has a big ego like Ronald. She loves attention and is bound to want to brag at some point. She enjoys the *fame* and will try to impress some of the more seasoned criminals. Maybe she'll get comfortable and accidentally reveal too much when she tries to come off as a badazz to one of those girls?


Well, I believe that LE has evidence of a crime and they found it in the MH. Maybe the van also. It makes me still think the pink shirt is significant.
I would like to know how the pink shirt got from Haleigh to wherever it was found. If misty wore it to school (as misty says) then between the time she went to school and came home, it was washed and perhaps even put away.

My reasoning for saying this is CJ said on Levi's Show that the pink shirt was in a drawer and I recall LE saying the Pink Shirt was never worn outside (by the condition it was in). That's leads credence to CJ's remark of it being in a drawer.

The only other explanation would have to be that Haleigh wore it on the way to GGS that morning, and left it there when she changed into her favorite school outfit. GGS washed it and brought it by with the other clean laundry that evening. But would Misty actually put the clean laundry away in the drawers that night? She supposedly wasn't much of a housekeeper.

BUT there's no way I'm even going to put much stock into that story anyway. The driving all the way to GGS for a special outfit before school story just doesn't make sense imo. At one time there was a rumor that Ronald had taken Haleigh to Walmart that morning, they were on the way to school and she spilled something on her shirt.

It seems like every little aspect of this case each has about 10 different versions. :eek:
 
Do we even know what phone they used during the 911 calls?
B/c the impression I got at the time was that Misty didn't have a cell phone of her own.

During the 911 call, RC makes sure to mention the phone is his phone, b/c he has "better" people to call.
Where was Misty's phone? Why didn't she use her own phone to call 911 since RC says he said, "Why are telling me, call 911." She obeys his command and calls, but with his phone? Then why did Rc use her phone so she could continue to talk to 911? Imo, he was proving that he had his phone with him at that time, otherwise he would have used her phone, or he would have had her use her phone to call 911 to begin with.
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The whole post was great, but this part especially caught my eye. Interesting catch!
 
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The whole post was great, but this part especially caught my eye. Interesting catch!

Well Misty stated she called Ron and was on the phone with him when he came home so she had to have her own phone as she was outside the residence. I think... haha nothing in this case is ever clear!
 
90 calls=major crisis
90 calls=he wasn't on the scene, Green Ln
??? Boss wouldn't let him leave, or; more likely, he needed the alibi. "I was at werk".
If 90 calls=major crisis, WTH did he stop for peanuts and beer? Again, he needed an alibi.
Innocent people don't need alibis.

Remeber when Misty said something like, "at that time she was doing okay" referring to Haleigh playing outside on her bicycle. It made people think that later she wasn't but at that time she was. If Haleigh had gotten into some pills before Ron left for werk and they weren't sure if she was gonna be okay than I can see him calling numerous times to check up and see (although not caring enough to risk his butt being in trouble and take her to the ER). Just a thought...
 
Remeber when Misty said something like, "at that time she was doing okay" referring to Haleigh playing outside on her bicycle. It made people think that later she wasn't but at that time she was. If Haleigh had gotten into some pills before Ron left for werk and they weren't sure if she was gonna be okay than I can see him calling numerous times to check up and see (although not caring enough to risk his butt being in trouble and take her to the ER). Just a thought...
Hi, Mew. How've you been? i get what you're saying, but even so 90 times is excessive. If he were gone ten hours, that's nine calls an hour or one every seven minutes. Even if theywere incoming and outgoing, that's a lot. Until we see the phone records it's all speculative, anyway.
 
Charlie, I'll kiss your sweet applebutt if there were NINETY calls that night. Ain't nobody seen those phone records except MzTeeee, Ronald, Shoe, and LE, imo.

I'm not buying that there were 90 calls either LFlorida. Make that two kisses for Charlie's sweet applebutt. :crazy: (Though Charlie, I do usually agree with you).
 
Just a few questions about the phone:
what kind was it?
regular cell, or cell with radio?
If it was a radio (like nextel) does each back and forth count as a "call"?
If a number was put on que to alert the caller when the phone is available, would it count as a call each time?
I don't know anything about pings and I am just curious as to how all these calls add up.
 
Taking into consideration I believe Ron C was told to get into work as fast as he could since Haleigh was already gone and his family knew he needed an alibi, I don't have a problem believing he made 90 phone calls to various people in his family and in Misty's family.. Ron C is a controller, he needed to know what was going on and to tell people what needed to be done..JMO
 
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