Levi Page Show 5/9/10 10 PM ET

[Baznme]

I don't hear bleach cleaning, I hear "been cleaning", but I could be wrong.

Bern, I think you have my comment confused with the 911 call? Mine was regarding the Levi show last night.

 

[SweetDreamOfYou]

Sorry, just did not hear LP quote LE, but perhaps he meant that - "good authority." I wouldn't know.

LP: they either failed or theres t other word that they use inconclusive, that basically is what t situation was on all of them
SMc: ...90% deception or truth <10% inconclusive
LP: there is not a single test that any of them have passed...that i know as fact "from a good authority"

LP: (re M and R poly) - there was failure or inconclusive, but neither one passed
LP: LE will never tell u u passed a poly; never

i heard him say le

 

[Whisperer]

I felt this was worth repeating...

YES, YES...if the Altima was there, rc has a big problem. He can't be squeezed on it because AS puts herself there a little after 7:00pm. I am betting that it the time rc left for work. LE is believing AS when she says Haleigh was alive and healthy, happy and that she kissed her Goodbye when she left. (My imagination meter goes crazy at that Goodbye part) LE has set their timeline starting at AS's visit.

Timeline = problem.

 

[suspicious1]

From last night's interview, we have learned that either tommy got his info from misty about Haleigh and what happened or tommy was present when it happened.

LE has said rc could not have left work, gone home, and back to work again. I never thought he left work and returned. I just don't know how long he was at work.

So some are saying misty and ronald are in this together. Is the problem for tommy, that he has to turn in his sister to blame rc or is it just tommy and misty or is it just misty alone? If it were rc alone, tommy would spill. It it were misty and/or tommy, rc would spill.

BBM

Hey Whisp, what if Misty told Tommy what happened and Ron was to blame...but she let Tommy know that if he told anyone, Ron would know the information came from her and he would kill her. In one of her tests, she mentions that she was not threatened but IMO she was. She then comes out and say that Jo was the one that threatened her. I believe the threatening part but I don't think she was being truthful when she revealed the one responsible for the threat. Maybe Tommy felt like him not saying anything was protecting his sister from harm.

I tried to put myself in their shoes. What if my sister came to me, telling me about a horrific crime against a child and that her boyfriend was responsible? She tells me that he put a gun to her head or in her mouth and told her that if anyone found out, he would know she told, and would intentionally blow her teeth out the back of her head. She confides in me but doesn't want me to tell anyone else in fear of being killed. What would I do?

 

[elle1919]

Don't worry bout it Kimster! The broken quote thing started so far back...it's beyond repair.

As far as the LDT's I believe LE has neglected to confirm or deny results of any of their tests because if they did it for one of them....they would have to do it for them all, otherwise the media would be running amok with speculation as to why they released the finding of one and not the other. For instance they couldn't say, Yup RC passed and then not speak on Misty's, same with Crystal's they would never come out and say she passed and she isn't even remotely involved. Same way they wouldn't say which players in the case actually took a poly, only that they offered a poly to them all. JMO

 

[elle1919]

YES, YES...if the Altima was there, rc has a big problem. He can't be squeezed on it because AS puts herself there a little after 7:00pm. I am betting that it the time rc left for work. LE is believing AS when she says Haleigh was alive and healthy, happy and that she kissed her Goodbye when she left. (My imagination meter goes crazy at that Goodbye part) LE has set their timeline starting at AS's visit.

Timeline = problem.

AC Repairman is the new key!

Misty said RC called from work around 5:30 and asked to speak to the AC Repairman. If AC Repairman saw Haleigh when he was there, and we know he was indeed there because LE confirmed that part, that would put Haleigh alive at 5:30 and RC not at the trailer at 5:30. According to Shoemaker RC was clocked in and working by 5:30, so the AC Man is going to play a big role in my opinion. BIG.

Probably why we have hearda peep from this guy. Not even a name, face, nadda. I am thinking he is a material time-line witness and his testimony is being protected and he is not speaking with media or anyone else under strict orders from LE. JMO

 

[Whisperer]

The problem with that "New Key" theory is that misty is the one relating that information concerning ron, the phone and the ac repairman.

According to Shoemaker, rc started at his regualar time of 5:00pm? His information comes from rc...another problem.

 

[elle1919]

The problem with that "New Key" theory is that misty is the one relating that information concerning ron, the phone and the ac repairman.

According to Shoemaker, rc started at his regualar time of 5:00pm? His information comes from rc.

Perhaps, but why throw in such a piece of info like that? She stated in the LVA or hypnosis...whichever one it was....that RC asked to talk to the Repairman and she handed him the phone. Even if she was lying about RC talking to the AC Man, we still know he was there because LE confirmed he was and that was the last we heard of it. They never said if he saw Haleigh or not so in my opinion that makes his testimony about what he saw and who he talked to key in the time line that night. JMO

 

[1Chump]

LP said that LE confirmed without a doubt that Ron did not leave work that night.

LP did not say that LE is his source or that he heard it directly from LE. That is what I meant in another post when I said that LP believes what he says but I don't. I think LP was told that. I just don't think he was told it be LE and I don't know that the person who told him is credible.

I think LP has the same problem as Gma Flo. Like the childhood game of Telephone, they have heard so much that the don't always remember where they heard it or who said it so only repeat what they were told.

In this case "LE confirmed without a doubt." But what if LP had said TN told me that "LE confirmed without a doubt" or "Chelsea told me that LE confirmed without a doubt" that would change the source from LE to TN or Chelsea.

IMO, LE is not going to tell LP anything that they have not shared with all media. The only media person who has a chance at getting inside info in a case like this when LE has been so quiet is a local who they have had a long standing relationship with and know they can trust them to keep their name out of it. LP is not that guy.

 

[Emeralgem]

AC Repairman is the new key!

Misty said RC called from work around 5:30 and asked to speak to the AC Repairman. If AC Repairman saw Haleigh when he was there, and we know he was indeed there because LE confirmed that part, that would put Haleigh alive at 5:30 and RC not at the trailer at 5:30. According to Shoemaker RC was clocked in and working by 5:30, so the AC Man is going to play a big role in my opinion. BIG.

Probably why we have hearda peep from this guy. Not even a name, face, nadda. I am thinking he is a material time-line witness and his testimony is being protected and he is not speaking with media or anyone else under strict orders from LE. JMO

I must have missed something, because I don't recall LE ever stating as a fact the A/C man was there...Only that he checked out. Whatever that is supposed to mean..JMO

 

[elle1919]

I must have missed something, because I don't recall LE ever stating as a fact the A/C man was there...Only that he checked out. Whatever that is supposed to mean..JMO

They did say he was there. I can find it for you if you like.

 

[elle1919]

Bumped the AC Repairman thread and the post where LE confirmed he was there around 5 pm

 

[Whisperer]

Concerning the ac repairman, yes, LE has cleared him. We do not know what time he was there. Heck, he could have been there at noon. LE has cleared him as a suspect in the disappearance of Haleigh. They did it immediately and he and the RSOs have been ruled out.

Misty alluded in LVA/hypnosis that he is a relative of rc's and she named the company. She also in an earlier interview alluded to the possibility that she would not stay in the house, alone, with him...my mind wanders off when misty speaks because I don't know if she was trying to convey she didn't want to be flirted with or afraid of bodily harm. My mind gets befudldled with her because she stated he was a relative of ron's, six months later.

This girl is just simply delusional, imo, and it is difficult to ever figure out if and when she is telling a true story, if ever.

 

[Whisperer]

Did LE say he was there at 5:00pm? Oh brother! Now, that is hard to buy because misty hasn't got a time right yet and if she is right on, we can chalk one up for misty....still skeptical about it, though. LE also told us the first call came in at 2:13, etc. etc.

 

[SoSueMe]

If you are going to believe LP and take his word that RC did not pass a polygraph examination for Law Enforcement at the onset of this case then in my opinion you should be prepared to believe everything else that LP has said.....and I am not. I also don't believe that LP is questioning whether to put the bond up in RC's case. Who is he kidding. he wants his name in the news and he wants it there now, He would have likely bonded him out in a second.

LP also said Law Enforcement confirmed without a doubt that it would have been impossible for RC to have left work on February 9 2009. So why not quote his source on whether or not RC passed a polygraph like he did with that statement? Instead we hear "on good authority". Big difference there in my opinion.

Last time I listened to LP on Nancy Grace he was stating that he wanted to bond out the Croslin's but LE didn't want him to do that either. So now he is a bondsman that works on the advice of Law Enforcement? GMAB. Ya know sometimes I can honestly believe that LP has a big and honest heart, but lately his opinions in this case seem to depend on who is doing the interviewing. JMO

Well, I guess I'm guilty of picking and choosing what I want to believe and what I don't want to believe in this case. It depends on who says it, when they say it and what I might think their motives may be.

As for LP's comments on Levi's show, I do believe LP heard RC didn't pass his lie detector test, but I also believe LE (or good authority, whichever the case may be) told him Ron was accounted for at work that night.

As for LP's motive or heart, I think he has told us why he gets involved in these cases (publicity). I'm sure he has a big heart, but I do question his ability to read people and/or situations. As for this case, he's late to the game and needs to catch up if he is just now finding out about some of RC's questionable traits and practices.

OMO

 

[elle1919]

Did LE say he was there at 5:00pm? Oh brother! Now, that is hard to buy because misty hasn't got a time right yet and if she is right on, we can chalk one up for misty....still skeptical about it, though. LE also told us the first call came in at 2:13, etc. etc.

LE said around 5 pm ...Misty said around 5:30 pm FWIW

 

[redcar1]

Concerning the ac repairman, yes, LE has cleared him. We do not know what time he was there. Heck, he could have been there at noon. LE has cleared him as a suspect in the disappearance of Haleigh. They did it immediately and he and the RSOs have been ruled out.

Misty alluded in LVA/hypnosis that he is a relative of rc's and she named the company. She also in an earlier interview alluded to the possibility that she would not stay in the house, alone, with him...my mind wanders off when misty speaks because I don't know if she was trying to convey she didn't want to be flirted with or afraid of bodily harm. My mind gets befudldled with her because she stated he was a relative of ron's, six months later.

This girl is just simply delusional, imo, and it is difficult to ever figure out if and when she is telling a true story, if ever.

BBM
I DO believe the AC repairman will actually hold a huge piece of this puzzle. Imagine, if he can verify a repair work order signed by MC AND can verify seeing little Haleigh inside or outside of the mh at the time he was there, at least the time line could verify that little Haleigh WAS still alive when RC left for work that day. AND if LE is confirming that RC couldn't have left work early that night, then the list of possible suspects would be limited to MC, ToC & JO.
Major info for this case!
JMO

 

[suspicious1]

BBM
I DO believe the AC repairman will actually hold a huge piece of this puzzle. Imagine, if he can verify a repair work order signed by MC AND can verify seeing little Haleigh inside or outside of the mh at the time he was there, at least the time line could verify that little Haleigh WAS still alive when RC left for work that day. AND if LE is confirming that RC couldn't have left work early that night, then the list of possible suspects would be limited to MC, ToC & JO.
Major info for this case!
JMO

Redcar, I too believe that the A/C man will contribute alot to this case.
Although we haven't heard from him, I think that what he had to say to LE is a crucial piece to puzzle. I believed that he was cleared so fast because the information that he had for them, put this investigation in a new light for LE. Didn't they interview him right after the 911 call? Maybe the A/C man gave them information that had matched up with some evidence that they had thus far? Just throwin' that out there.

 

[4Jacy]

Redcar, I too believe that the A/C man will contribute alot to this case.
Although we haven't heard from him, I think that what he had to say to LE is a crucial piece to puzzle. I believed that he was cleared so fast because the information that he had for them, put this investigation in a new light for LE. Didn't they interview him right after the 911 call? Maybe the A/C man gave them information that had matched up with some evidence that they had thus far? Just throwin' that out there.

Well, the AC man was just doing his job. A job he goes to on a regular basis with many children and adults around. I can't help but thinking he wouldn't remember who was at RC's home that night. How many homes had he been to that day, that week?

When my children were between 8 and 12, I would have several motor bikes in my driveway, waiting for soda and snacks before their rode through the mountians. However, if you had asked me which children they were, I don't think I could remember.

Not to be disrespectful to the A/C man, but why should we assume he knows or does not know if Haleigh was there that night!

Also, God bless the A/C repair man. Bet you anything he has a new job that does not involve the public!!

 

[lonetraveler]

BBM
I DO believe the AC repairman will actually hold a huge piece of this puzzle. Imagine, if he can verify a repair work order signed by MC AND can verify seeing little Haleigh inside or outside of the mh at the time he was there, at least the time line could verify that little Haleigh WAS still alive when RC left for work that day. AND if LE is confirming that RC couldn't have left work early that night, then the list of possible suspects would be limited to MC, ToC & JO.
Major info for this case!
JMO

At the very least the AC man can confirm

a) if Ron was at the MH when the AC man arrived to do the maintenance
b) or if Misty got Ron on the phone when he arrived and handed the phone to the AC man so that he could talk to Ron
c) or the maintenance man called prior to coming over to the MH to make sure someone would be there, Misty answered the phone and walked into the house, handed the phone to Ron so that he could speak to the AC man
d) AC man remembered seeing Haleigh or not
e) AC man can verify who else was at the MH while he was there. Was it one of the following? More than one of the following? Heck, just underline who was there. Feel free to add names as needed.
1. Tommy
2. Timmy
3. Joe
4. Misty
5. Teresa
6. GGMS
7. Ron