Levi Page Show 5/9/10 10 PM ET

[Kimster]

well he did say it was LE on the source that RC couldn't leave work, and then he said he had it on good authority that they all either failed or had inconclusive LDT results.

In my opinion if the father of a missing child failed his LDT very early on in the investigation then we would have heard that information back then. This is where the LDT becomes a useful tool in an investigation. We have some cases to fall back on as proof that LE will leak LDT results to put pressure on potential suspects. Susan Smith, Drew Peterson, Raymond Clark, Darin Routier, ....I am sure we could each add on our own names that we remember.

I don't know if RC passed or not, he could have passed it while still being involved for all I know. All I am saying is i have my doubts that LP knows anything on "good authority". I think he is getting much of his info from The Croslin's themselves and I don't need a LDT to persuade me of their guilt or innocence. JMO

LP has been spot on with some of his revelations about KC, and he's been very wrong in others. (The Blanchard Park episode cost him much in credibility AND cash). I'm with you, I need something to back up his claims. I think his heart is in the right place, but his head gets too wrapped up in the media at the same time.

 

[Whisperer]

RC knew or suspected he had a problem after he took the poly, thus the reason for hiring an attorney from the start...imo

 

[aoibhinn]

I'm just one of those people who don't believe things until LE says it...especially in this case...so not sure I buy most of the stuff that came across here tonight, at least not yet. I don't think LE would use LP as their mouthpiece, personally.

Just wondering, if LE says it would have been impossible for Ron to have left work (which I never thought, I figured he operated via his phone) could it be because he was never there to begin with? That is the only way I can see it being totally impossible...

I think LP went down there with the idea of bailing Ron out. I'm sure he and his team asked a lot of questions first to check if RC was going to be a flight risk. That is LP's #1 concern when he posts bail for an individual. I'll bet he's got sources in LE and if LP was doing his own investigation of RC, I'm sure he asked questions about the LDT results, among other things. Off the record, of course.

As far as him saying that LE confirmed that it would have been impossible for Ron to have left work, well, that's been the party line all along. LP just repeated what we've all heard. As the operator of a rolling crane, he might have a little time between loading/unloading barges but not enough to make the return journey from work to Satsuma and help in the coverup also. However, we don't know what time RC arrived at work. I'll bet anything it wasn't at 4:15pm.

I found most of what LP said to be credible as far as RC's movements. I believe he may have discussed the case with TN but he's not going to tell us that. I'd be more intrigued by what he didn't say on last night's show. I bet his investigations have turned up a lot more than he is saying.

On a lighter note, I'll add that I'm a fan of LP, self-aggrandising, publicity-hound that he may be. LP might be old enough to be my grand-daddy but he sure is one cool dude grand-daddy. The suited and booted cowboy with the southern accent is real iconic to us over here in Europe. My admiration is on a purely platonic and professional level, natch.

 

[Kimster]

Hi Kim. On your post # you combined Elle and me. I don't think that was my quote...lol

:blushing: In mod training, we are told to repair broken quotes. Now you know why! :dance:

 

[aoibhinn]

I open the programs in my Windows Media Player and can go back and forth with ease when I listen to the show at a different time than when it's live. I'm always pausing because I don't like to miss anything when I have to step away. It works like a charm. Believe me, I have to listen several times to the same section.

Aha! Just noticed the text underneath which says open in your regular media player. Thanks so much! Will re-listen and transcribe later this evening.

 

[cluciano63]

If he was seen driving his crane or whatever on camera at werk...I wonder if it shows his phone plastered to his ear the whole night?

I werked at a state lottery for 10 yrs, which was extremely secure...badges to get everywhere, including the bathrooms...but it was possible to walk out behind someone else who had badged out...and still be counted as being in the building...
Anyway, I do think he was at werk, just baffled as to all the great 15-month and counting secrecy about the times...an innocent man, in LE's eyes, would not have needed all of this cover of secrecy about his hours for this period of time. I have never seen it said anyplace, or believed for a moment, that RC has ever been cleared in LE's mind. The only thing he might be cleared of is being in the MH in the evening between certain hours, like 7-11pm for example...but that does not mean that is when Haleigh was hurt/killed. Hope I am not off-topic.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

In the 911 call Misty stated to the 911 operator that she had been "bleach cleaning". I thought that suspicious to begin with for her to be talking about "bleach cleaning" to a 911 operator. WTH? Misty tells the 911 operator about bleach cleaning near the 30 second mark. On cleaned up audios it is very easy to hear this.

BBM: ITA that is too weird for Misty to give this detail to the 911 operator. Definitely a case of a too much information, imo. Methinks that Misty put her foot in it with the "bleach cleaning" comment

 

[Skully]

That's why I think it's confusing. One goes with the other. If you are wiping down a "crime scene" for any possible evidence, it stands to reason that this was purposefully done for that alone, not for the housekeeping end of it. In other words, it was done so well......it was "too clean".

I don't hear bleach cleaning, I hear "been cleaning", but I could be wrong.

 

[1Chump]

Sorry, just did not hear LP quote LE, but perhaps he meant that - "good authority." I wouldn't know.

LP: they either failed or theres t other word that they use inconclusive, that basically is what t situation was on all of them
SMc: ...90% deception or truth <10% inconclusive
LP: there is not a single test that any of them have passed...that i know as fact "from a good authority"

LP: (re M and R poly) - there was failure or inconclusive, but neither one passed
LP: LE will never tell u u passed a poly; never

Thank you. I was very suspecting of LP talking to LE. IMO, LE has went above and beyond keeping everything about this case quiet. So I found it hard to believe that LP, an outsider from out of state who is known to appear on shows and talk, would gain the trust of LE when reporters who have had a working relationship and gained LE's trust cannot get them to talk. Especially after LP's involement with Casey Anthony.

I would say if LP did hear anything from LE it is not necessarily the truth. I could see LE using LP to put something out there for POI's to hear. I could also see LP repeating something someone told him that they heard from LE and leaving out who told him.

 

[1Chump]

ITA with elle on this one. LP is about the press coverage. plain and simple. He enjoyed his go round with the Anthony case and all the clamour that surrounded his association with that case and that is the one and only reason he inserted himself into this one. Everything that comes out of his mouth is taken with a liberal pinch of salt, as with so many others associated with this case. MOO

I completely agree. My thoughts were what a HUGE coincidence that the same day the hearing was cancelled, LP figures out Ron was an abusive father based on old information and decides not to bond him out. If LP had come out before the hearing was cancelled and said he was changed his mind, I would have found him more credible. But now the timing makes me question him.

I do think people are talking to LP. I think they are using him to get their story out and in some cases to make their story look more credible. So I do think he believes what he says. But just because you say something you believe does not make it true.

 

[lonetraveler]

Sorry, just did not hear LP quote LE, but perhaps he meant that - "good authority." I wouldn't know.

LP: they either failed or theres t other word that they use inconclusive, that basically is what t situation was on all of them
SMc: ...90% deception or truth <10% inconclusive
LP: there is not a single test that any of them have passed...that i know as fact "from a good authority"

LP: (re M and R poly) - there was failure or inconclusive, but neither one passed
LP: LE will never tell u u passed a poly; never

FWIW, I've never thought that Ron passed a poly and if he did pass I would be very suspicious about the questions asked. I tend to believe LP on this one and especially the last sentence you have posted, ie., LE will never tell you you passed a poly..........

 

[Whisperer]

allot of bleeps when Crystal talks about what RC called her.
How he beat her when she just found out she was pregnant.
His mom and granny KNEW about the abuse!!

concerning pregnant females.....hmmm..ring a bell, anyone?
concerning tn and AS knowing of abuse...I bet they did and I hope it wasn't personal experience.

 

[Whisperer]

LP stated, "There is not a single test that any of them have passed...that i know as fact "from a good authority"

I would love to get my hands on that list.

 

[4Jacy]

As far as I'm concerned LP contributed a bombshell in the Anthony case. He is the one who knew about baez had somebody go over to the area where the body was found...er before it was found. These guys like LP can get informatin the public can't. He also helped in this case by having the video of tommy and misty availble to listen to. If the parents weren't able to get to the jail, there would not be many of those videos or phone calls for that matter...as LP helped people to stay in touch.

Yes, I think LP has helped a lot of people in this case especially. I'm not saying he doesn't enjoy the limelight, but I truly think he is very kind- hearted and generous.

 

[Whisperer]

From last night's interview, we have learned that either tommy got his info from misty about Haleigh and what happened or tommy was present when it happened.

LE has said rc could not have left work, gone home, and back to work again. I never thought he left work and returned. I just don't know how long he was at work.

So some are saying misty and ronald are in this together. Is the problem for tommy, that he has to turn in his sister to blame rc or is it just tommy and misty or is it just misty alone? If it were rc alone, tommy would spill. It it were misty and/or tommy, rc would spill.

 

[lonetraveler]

LP stated, "There is not a single test that any of them have passed...that i know as fact "from a good authority"

I would love to get my hands on that list.

Yep, me too! I would be a bit happier if we even knew for a fact who the heck has taken a test, period.

 

[dodie20]

well he did say it was LE on the source that RC couldn't leave work, and then he said he had it on good authority that they all either failed or had inconclusive LDT results.

In my opinion if the father of a missing child failed his LDT very early on in the investigation then we would have heard that information back then. This is where the LDT becomes a useful tool in an investigation. We have some cases to fall back on as proof that LE will leak LDT results to put pressure on potential suspects. Susan Smith, Drew Peterson, Raymond Clark, Darin Routier, ....I am sure we could each add on our own names that we remember.

I don't know if RC passed or not, he could have passed it while still being involved for all I know. All I am saying is i have my doubts that LP knows anything on "good authority". I think he is getting much of his info from The Croslin's themselves and I don't need a LDT to persuade me of their guilt or innocence. JMO

This particular LE keeps every bit of information so close to the vest that I don't think we would've heard that at all. The only reason we heard about any of Misty's results is because they were non LE administered. As for her LE test, Ron said she passed & the Nancy Grace show said she failed. Now, where they got that information, IDK, but I still have yet to hear LE verify that. For all I know, Misty's test may have been the inconclusive one.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

raisincharlie;5166772]P. Poppen said the Altima was there that evening - there is a video of him on Jax4 I believe saying the Altima was there, that is how he knew Misty was home so he said.[/

I felt this was worth repeating...

 

[Whisperer]

If we go back to the beginning, with the neighbor saying the Altima was out front on Monday night, if confirmed, we can be almost sure that rc did not go into work till much later. I have to leave an opening for the chance he drove a different vehicle...as I have heard he drove the red crew pickup often. He also had an old white truck whick we do not know if it was running.

BUT if he had an extra vehicle, that leaves misty home with the Altima and gives her opportunity.

 

[lonetraveler]

OK but don't forget Ron has a hearing on May 13th.....

Sheryl said there is no way LE wants that bond lowered. She said he could run.

Yep, I think that the possibility that Ron would run faster than a roadrunner is the real reason that LP just can't make the decision to bail Ron out.:waitasec: