I listened to the show live, and my opinion differs, but I am subject to change on relistening, but IMO GJ was giving the locations, his name, the details, he wanted LE there and MC didn't want to give her name, although it was suspect that LE could not catch up with them thru the ordeal, but MC did state that RC was the one who was charged with something, and didn't know what exactly. And I have to add the the MC that we have come to know sure sounded more confident and educated in that call to me