Linguistics

[DeeDee249]

Her half-brother was not in Boulder that night and has an alibi. Many others who were in Boulder that night and DO NOT have an alibi should be considered also. Merely because you did not KNOW they were in the house, does not mean they WERE NOT in the house. There are unidentified fibers and DNA on the crime scene that indicates the likelihood of other(s).

His alibi is his mother, who JR provided with a lawyer almost immediately. Enough said.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Hat, we're debating on a forum. There is no need to get in a snit.

Anyway, show me some evidence, or explain how you came to your conclusions, and/or what your other connection is to the case (I think you may have left a word out in what you said about that, but I'm not sure).

At least describe what details you've been considering to arrive at this new suspect. It can't be the writings you have, as you say you want an analysis of them. Although... if they might provide some evidence, cough them up please.

Thatsa lotta questions.

OK here's some details.

I selected some words from the ransom note, basically dropped the most common words, and words that are specific to a ransom note e.g. dollars, money, unharmed. I kept these words listed below because they are less common and not much hint of the subject matter of kidnapping:

situation, stray, individuals, southern, gentlemen, rested, exhausting, remaining, serves, victory, possession, represent, scrutiny, deviation, adequate, constant, devices, must, arrange, advise, faction, provoke, immediate, denied, result, hence, underestimate, outsmart, particularly, respect, proper.

Then I did a frequency of usage of these RN vocabulary words in two large samples. One is from the subject exemplar and the other is from a book I just picked of similar size.

One of the authors used 16 of the 31 words in their book. Total occurrences of these ransom note words is 179 out of 120651 words. (situation 34, individuals 1, southern 3, gentlemen 3, rested 3, remaining 3, victory 4, constant 6, must 77, arrange 2, immediate 7, result 11, hence 1, particularly 12, respect 9, proper 3).

The other author used 19 of the 31 words in their book. Total occurrences of the same ransom note words is 1151 of 120772 words (situation 83, stray 2, individuals 11, remaining 4, serves 10, victory 22, represent 32, deviation 5, adequate 19, constant 6, must 814, arrange 11, provoke 2, immediate 7, result 48, hence 6, particularly 29, respect 5, proper 35).

 

[claudicici]

..are any of these authors from Luxembourg?

 

[MurriFlower]

His alibi is his mother, who JR provided with a lawyer almost immediately. Enough said.

Well, you would have to prove he got there somehow, as his car was in Boulder, so he either flew or drove with someone else. Any ideas? You can imaginate anything you want DD, but then to make a case, you actually need some evidence.

 

[claudicici]

I do believe JAR's alibi is pretty tight.I wonder if his mothers' lawyer was hired so quickly to prevent her from answering questions about JR instead?....about Beths' rumored suicide attempt and things along those lines maybe?

 

[MurriFlower]

I do believe JAR's alibi is pretty tight.I wonder if his mothers' lawyer was hired so quickly to prevent her from answering questions about JR instead?....about Beths' rumored suicide attempt and things along those lines maybe?

Hmm, is this sourced? My understanding is that she was a passenger in a vehicle driven by her fiance. Perhaps she grabbed the wheel, jumped out the door, caused him to swerve? Or maybe this is scuttlebutt too??

How's about the lawyer was just hired to stop the BPD from harrassing her? Sounds like a good idea to me!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

..are any of these authors from Luxembourg?

Is that all you have to say? Is that your :twocents:?

 

[turtle]

His alibi is his mother, who JR provided with a lawyer almost immediately. Enough said.

What do you all know about JAR? Anything important from past or present history. His alibi is very very tight.

 

[joeskidbeck]

JAR did not have to be in Boulder that night to have played a part in the events that led to JonBenet's death. I'm not speaking for DeeDee here, I'm speaking for myself. I doubt seriously that JR hired a lawyer for his ex to keep her from being harrased by the BPD. IMO, she knew too much about the Ramsey men and JR did not want her talking to LE. From JR's own mouth we know he hired investigators to keep him out of jail. It's not that big of a leap to understand why he hired his ex a lawyer.

 

[DeeDee249]

Well, you would have to prove he got there somehow, as his car was in Boulder, so he either flew or drove with someone else. Any ideas? You can imaginate anything you want DD, but then to make a case, you actually need some evidence.

This whole forum is about OPINIONS, right? And nobody, even LE can PROVE how he got there. He could have driven his own car (which was, as you said, in Boulder), or flown on a private charter, which would have no passenger list.
His father had the means and access to fly himself and his family anywhere in private planes. Doesn't mean HIS own private plane, but JR could have certainly provided JAR with a chartered plane, in which case there would not necessarily be a passenger list or any record that he was on that plane. His car being in Boulder is a big clue (for me, anyway) that he WAS there for Christmas and that neighbor (the late) Joe Barnhill did see him as he said he did.
We don't know all the ins and outs of the R family car situation. JAR attended college just minutes from his father's house, yet he had a dorm room there as well. He stayed on campus mostly, but obviously went both home to Atlanta sometimes and to his dad's sometimes. His legal residence was with his mom in Atlanta, but he could have kept a car at his dad's for his use whenever he was there, and I assume he would have also used that car to go back and forth from the campus. He may have used it to drive back and forth to Atlanta as well. It is not know whether his car had any kind of electronic monitoring device (like we have EZ Pass here in NY and NJ) where records could be obtained to show where and when the car traveled. In court, those records aren't proof either, as it only indicates that the car was in a certain place at a certain time and not that a particular person was in the car.
All we can "prove" is that the murder of his half-sister occurred when his campus was closed for Christmas break, and his whereabouts were uncertain (except for uncorroborated statements).
Of course to tie JAR to this crime, there has to be some evidence that he was in Boulder that night.
MY feeling is that evidence existed on either a video taken Christmas morning at the Rs showing JAR there (which is why JR said their video camera had dead batteries), or in a photograph taken by his mother in Atlanta (which probably indicated he was NOT there). Because if he DID appear in a photo taken in Atlanta (especially one with an electronic day/date stamp, the Rs would have jumped to provide that photo to LE. Instead, JAR hired a lawyer for JAR and his mother, so that she wouldn't have to show anyone anything.
That being said, it is possible to fly from Atlanta Christmas morning and arrive in Boulder later that evening.

 

[joeskidbeck]

Excellent post, DeeDee. I believe the fact that the Ramsey's claim there was no Christmas morning video that year is huge. I always have. I've also been ridiculed for this opinion. Doesn't matter to me. I'm from the South and I can't speak for the rest of the country, but Tradition is a huge part of Christmas here. If there wasn't a video made that year, it was the first in the Ramsey family history and I just don't believe that. If the batteries had actually been dead, Patsy would have made those children wait till they were charged. Even IDI's should understand this, but they would rather act like it is no big deal and therefore, it has no evidentiary value. There was a video and it contained something the family didn't want LE to see.

 

[tapu]

Thatsa lotta questions.

OK here's some details.

I selected some words from the ransom note, basically dropped the most common words, and words that are specific to a ransom note e.g. dollars, money, unharmed. I kept these words listed below because they are less common and not much hint of the subject matter of kidnapping:

situation, stray, individuals, southern, gentlemen, rested, exhausting, remaining, serves, victory, possession, represent, scrutiny, deviation, adequate, constant, devices, must, arrange, advise, faction, provoke, immediate, denied, result, hence, underestimate, outsmart, particularly, respect, proper.

Then I did a frequency of usage of these RN vocabulary words in two large samples. One is from the subject exemplar and the other is from a book I just picked of similar size.

One of the authors used 16 of the 31 words in their book. Total occurrences of these ransom note words is 179 out of 120651 words. (situation 34, individuals 1, southern 3, gentlemen 3, rested 3, remaining 3, victory 4, constant 6, must 77, arrange 2, immediate 7, result 11, hence 1, particularly 12, respect 9, proper 3).

The other author used 19 of the 31 words in their book. Total occurrences of the same ransom note words is 1151 of 120772 words (situation 83, stray 2, individuals 11, remaining 4, serves 10, victory 22, represent 32, deviation 5, adequate 19, constant 6, must 814, arrange 11, provoke 2, immediate 7, result 48, hence 6, particularly 29, respect 5, proper 35).

And... What are you thinking about that? Or, where are you going with it?

(As for my asking a lot of questions, I really am asking only one, over and over--two depending on how you count it--and that is: What are you suggesting, and why?)

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

And... What are you thinking about that? Or, where are you going with it?

(As for my asking a lot of questions, I really am asking only one, over and over--two depending on how you count it--and that is: What are you suggesting, and why?)

If you're unable to make even one single conclusion or remark from the information I provided then we're probably done. Instead you're back to general questions that seem to not take into consideration anyone elses concerns.

I'm OK with that, really.

 

[tapu]

It would have taken less effort for you to state your hypothesis rather than implying I'm stupid.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

It would have taken less effort for you to state your hypothesis rather than implying I'm stupid.

I believed you were unable to make any conclusion or remark because you were unimpressed by the information. I can make one conclusion for you, and see if you agree: one author uses more ransom note vocabulary than the other, by a factor of 5 or 6.

 

[MurriFlower]

I believed you were unable to make any conclusion or remark because you were unimpressed by the information. I can make one conclusion for you, and see if you agree: one author uses more ransom note vocabulary than the other, by a factor of 5 or 6.

So who are the authors and what are the names of the books?

If for example, one was "Cooking for Dummies" and the other was "How to Write a Ransom Note" you would expect there to be more "ransom note words" in one than the other, wouldn't you?

Obviously, that's an exaggerated example, but I'm sure you get my drift? It's possible that it may be the subject matter, rather than the author's speech pattern that is giving you all these positive hits.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So who are the authors and what are the names of the books?

If for example, one was "Cooking for Dummies" and the other was "How to Write a Ransom Note" you would expect there to be more "ransom note words" in one than the other, wouldn't you?

Obviously, that's an exaggerated example, but I'm sure you get my drift? It's possible that it may be the subject matter, rather than the author's speech pattern that is giving you all these positive hits.

One is a mystery novel from the year 1919 called 'Dangerous Days' authored by a woman. The other is a book on cinematography authored by a man. The one with more 'ransom note words', by 5 or 6 times, is the book on cinematography.

I'll welcome any link to a comparable text to see if there's one to beat this one.

ETA: I found another text called The Kidnap Murder Case (1938):

situation 38, stray 2, gentlemen 19, rested 3, remaining 4, serves 1, possession 3, scrutiny 1, adequate 2, constant 3, devices 1, must 45, arrange 1, advise 3, immediate 8, denied 1, result 8, particularly 11, respect 3, proper 2

It uses 20 of the 31 ransom note words, but only 159 ransom note words in 67613 words. The cinematography book uses them 3 times more frequently.

 

[MurriFlower]

One is a mystery novel from the year 1919 called 'Dangerous Days' authored by a woman. The other is a book on cinematography authored by a man. The one with more 'ransom note words', by 5 or 6 times, is the book on cinematography.

I'll welcome any link to a comparable text to see if there's one to beat this one.

Now I'm confused. Are you suspecting the author of the cinematography book in JBR's murder? If so, is there anything else you have except the repetition of the key words? Motive, means, opportunity?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Now I'm confused. Are you suspecting the author of the cinematography book in JBR's murder? If so, is there anything else you have except the repetition of the key words? Motive, means, opportunity?

Like everybody else I have a theory. The author does sort of fit some of the published profile. But is there anything else you have? Think about it awhile and maybe it'll come to you.

 

[MurriFlower]

Like everybody else I have a theory. The author does sort of fit some of the published profile. But is there anything else you have? Think about it awhile and maybe it'll come to you.

Hmmm, nope, nothing's coming to me. What is the 'published profile'?