Live MSM coverage on Baby Lisa 19 October 2011

[panthera]

..me too.

..deborah could hardly WAIT to get on TV and tell us numerous times just how "drunk" she was ( and therefore has an excuse for her various stories not matching up..) ----i'd like to know how much they drank---and did the neighbour think deborah was "drunk"..?

DB stated she had approximately five glasses, IIRC, however I don't remember if she said how large the glasses were; or how much the neighbor had consumed.

 

[curiousc]

NG discussing DB/JI behavior with a guest psychologist. Doctor saying DB took a cocktail of wine and medication, probably suffered a blackout; now talking about trauma having no timeline. Not condoning DB behavior but is saying there is a reason for it.

Caller (male) is talking about the cell phones and why didn't JI have one of them with him; as a father wouldn't he have that cell phone to be able to talk with his wife since it was JI's first night at work.

NG doesn't understand why the kidnapper would take all three cell phones. Questions if phone would be "off" to be charging. Caller still on the line saying he leaves phone on all the time in order not to miss text messages, even while phone is charging.

NG now talking about DB with Marc Klaas. MK believes NG is being too kind. She admitted to having a blackout; LE realizes that they have to go back into the house since they weren't given accurate information to begin with. MK saying if DB had been in such an inebriated state that night she would not have been able to take the baby out of the house and LE may be searching in belief baby may still be in the house. Who knows what one can do in that state of inebriation? Believes LE may find something beneath the floorboards, somewhere in the house, etc.

(good Marc!! )

JS: Computer hard drive also removed from the house per search warrant and ladders being used by LE inside the house.

I am pretty surprised to here MK saying all of this. Usually he's for the parents. I think he's changed since Billie Dunn was on NG, or am I wrong?

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Sorry - I wasn't trying to make you feel bad...! There was "reportedly" a call/text from/to one of the phones around that time also.

BTW, was that ever confirmed? Seems like that Judge lady on TV confirmed it? :waitasec:

Confirmed here. Yes.

 

[belimom]

I have a problem with the "blackout" issue. If the mom really committed a horrible crime here she would be riding on the side of dumb coming out of that, panic even. If she realized she had done harm to her child she certainly in that state would not have come up with a plan that would foil LE unless she had help after the fact.

Did LE search the home that first night/morning? I wonder if Lisa could have been carried out in a suitcase when DB/JI left later to stay with relatives?

Remember - LE did search the house where they were staying, with dogs, too, I think?

 

[panthera]

Sorry - I wasn't trying to make you feel bad...! There was "reportedly" a call/text from/to one of the phones around that time also.

BTW, was that ever confirmed? Seems like that Judge lady on TV confirmed it? :waitasec:

Judge Jeanine Pirro discussed the 2:38am call/text on her show on FNC as if it did occur.

 

[Coldpizza]

I'm not saying she had help, but I'm beginning to wonder if the "blackout" was fabricated.
I mean hells bells was a blood test taken to determine her alcohol level that morning?

 

[belimom]

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JS: Computer hard drive also removed from the house per search warrant and ladders being used by LE inside the house.

If something becomes of info on the hard drive and JI says he snuck home from work while 'on the clock' and did some searches himself, I think I'll implode...

 

[panthera]

I am pretty surprised to here MK saying all of this. Usually he's for the parents. I think he's changed since Billie Dunn was on NG, or am I wrong?

My belief is that Marc is intelligent enough to realize when "stories" don't make any sense. His daughter was actually kidnapped.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

DB stated she had approximately five glasses, IIRC, however I don't remember if she said how large the glasses were; or how much the neighbor had consumed.

Actually, she confirmed MORE than 5 glasses. But LESS than 10.

Which I know made ME feel a whole lot better about her being left alone with an infant. :innocent:

 

[curiousc]

I'm not saying she had help, but I'm beginning to wonder if the "blackout" was fabricated.
I mean hells bells was a blood test taken to determine her alcohol level that morning?

I wouldn't be surprised if the blackout was fabricated. It would be very convenient of her to say that.

 

[AphroditeInHerNighti]

Let me tell you about cell phones and using GPS to ping and locate it... Its NOT always very accurate.

a few weeks ago on a Saturday we were all sitting around, I was in the kitchen as usual and my kids start yelling and I turn around to see a huge officer on my porch and several more looking in my front window.. and a few in the back yard. Dont ask me why but I walked out on the porch with my 120 LB american bull growling menacingly at my side and asked them what the hell they were doing in my yard. LOL! Silly yes, I still get teased about I was almost on the news for my dog getting shot and me tazed, but the officer knew me and my husband is close friends with the chief.. he said they had a cell call with a woman screaming and an open line I was like.. Oh.. come on in and look, but it didnt come from here. I felt like a real jerk yelling at them.. who knows why that was my first reaction! They asked if I knew of any of my neighbors that were having " domestic problems" and I couldnt tell them any.. they searched everywhere and knocked on doors for some time.
Apparently they received a call and the GPS said it was at MY house roughly, but in fact it as **blocks** away at an apartment.

GPS and pinging for location is NOT pinpoint correct at all times. I found this out the hard way!

 

[panthera]

On Dr. Drew's program now.........

 

[Peepers]

Was the computer hard drive removed today? Or previously?

 

[belimom]

Actually, she confirmed MORE than 5 glasses. But LESS than 10.

Which I know made ME feel a whole lot better about her being left alone with an infant. :innocent:

After 3, I wouldn't trust myself to 'hold' an infant... :no:

 

[panthera]

I wouldn't be surprised if the blackout was fabricated. It would be very convenient of her to say that.

It wouldn't surprise me either. Not at all. Too convenient to go to the media many days later with this new revelation after LE had the sales receipt for the wine and the surveillance video was all over the media.

MOO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Judge Jeanine Pirro discussed the 2:38am call/text on her show on FNC as if it did occur.

DB also confirmed it in Megan Kelley interview, when she was discussing the cell pings. Not the time, I don't think, but that police showed her that there was a call made from the phone.

 

[curiousc]

My belief is that Marc is intelligent enough to realize when "stories" don't make any sense. His daughter was actually kidnapped.

I do know his daughter was kidnapped but usually he is for the parents until there's reason to doubt them. BD's stories didn't make sense yet he supported her and even went to Colorado City.

 

[vlpate]

Dr. Drew on now....someone said he will have a family member on tonight.

 

[EllaMae]

Judge Jeanine Pirro discussed the 2:38am call/text on her show on FNC as if it did occur.

Ashley Irwin tweeted that there was no call at 2:38 AM. Someone here posted her tweet a few days ago.

:waitasec:

 

[panthera]

Was the computer hard drive removed today? Or previously?

My understanding it was during this search warrant.