LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

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  • #161
I wonder who cleaned the kitchen after Debs cooked dinner? I don't see any evidence of dirty dishes, pots and pans, etc., in any video. So I guess she wasn't too drunk to clean the kitchen after dinner?

She could've started drinking while she was cleaning up.
 
  • #162
On a stove where maybe the 6 year old can turn on?? Wine is highly flammable! That is child endangerment to me. Leaving the box of wine on the stove even if there are NO children in the home is dangerous, IMO.

And I was focused on the spicket thingy being within easy reach of a child.
Anyway, I truly believe this box of white wine was placed there to go along with the white herring.
 
  • #163
One more thing I noticed:
When the reporter, in this mornings "Today Show," points out where the phones supposedly were an electrical socket does not appear to be nearby.
 
  • #164
I wonder who cleaned the kitchen after Debs cooked dinner? I don't see any evidence of dirty dishes, pots and pans, etc., in any video. So I guess she wasn't too drunk to clean the kitchen after dinner?

Why would she be drunk straight after dinner? She didn't start drinking till after she'd eaten, and it takes a while to get drunk.
 
  • #165
One more thing I noticed:
When the reporter, in this mornings "Today Show," points out where the phones supposedly were an electrical socket does not appear to be nearby.

I don't think I read anywhere where she said that she was charging them. I think many of us assumed she was charging them. I could be wrong though.
 
  • #166
I don't understand how leaving an uncorked bottle of wine (or in this case, an open box) out in full view of children is child endangerment, especially at their ages. People who drink alcohol have open containers in their homes, and it's the rare family who has a lock on a liquor cabinet. People who drink a glass of red wine at night have the corked bottle on the kitchen counter - white wine would be corked in full view in the fridge. I'm not sure the box of wine accessable on the stove will become an issue -

I think she meant because it's on the stove. Like it could accidentally catch fire.
 
  • #167
Is anyone in the area planning on doing a search for baby Lisa? Anyone? This past weekend would of been great but that's gone, any day would be great! I'd be in the news cameras face every morning pleading for help! Makes no sense IMO... It only tells me SOMEONE knows that poor baby's dead. Sooooo sad!!!!!!
 
  • #168
The "three independent witnesses" that claim to have seen a man with a baby. I wouldn't exactly call the first two independent-they are a husband and wife, and while wife appeared on video numerous times, we've yet to see what the husband has to say. And based on what wife has to say, the two of them (husband and wife) communicated with each other on what they have seen before ever contacting police-so not exactly independent, are they? The third one, the motorcycle guy, hasn't contacted LE for about a week. It would also be after the wife from the first couple already appeared on the news with her story. Of course "three independent" witnesses sound so much better, does it not?
 
  • #169
It is never too late to change the appearance for one never knows who is watching what and when. Hrm also if the kidnapper did take the baby, not living in the house, and now changing your hair and color sure makes it easy for the kidnapper or someone who might find the baby to contact the family. Gee what if some one knows the kidnapper and suspects it is baby lisa but doesn't want to contact police but instead of the family. Way to go DB, way to make it easy. /sarcasm
 
  • #170
I don't think I read anywhere where she said that she was charging them. I think many of us assumed she was charging them. I could be wrong though.

That is how I recalled it as well. I think someone doubted she would have her phones lined up on the counter and easy to steal. Others commented that they charge theirs there every night.

I don't think she ever claimed they were there charging, but I could be wrong.
 
  • #171
That is how I recalled it as well. I think someone doubted she would have her phones lined up on the counter and easy to steal. Others commented that they charge theirs there every night.

I don't think she ever claimed they were there charging, but I could be wrong.

We'd have to go back and look at the interviews.
 
  • #172
When listening to attorneys, one needs to listen for incomplete comments and words like "they." If there is a statement that suggests that something could happen, one should inquire as to what circumstances that could happen. When an attorney says "they," an interviewer must ask, "who is they?" When an attorney says, "they could have done this or that," a statement like that does not mean that "they" did anything.

Just because CS says no carpet was taken does not mean that a rug or something on the carpet wasn't taken. They are out to confuse, distract and distort the facts all in an attempt to create doubt. But if their client is innocent than the facts would support that finding.

In this day an age of putting the horse before the cart and media blitzes, LE better start taping and photographing their every investigative move and do as KC LE has done; release as few details as possible except info about the missing child's looks, likes, health, and behaviors.
 
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I can't fault DB for getting her hair done unless it comes out that she went to a spa had her hair cut and colored, had a manicure and pedicure, had her eyebrows waxed, and got a massage. That would be over the top. I bet that a friend did it for her to make her feel better.

I thought the same thing. My hairdresser is also my friend and I know would do my hair for me to help me feel better. I don't find this to be a problem. She wasn't heavily made up and wasn't sporting new clothes. :seeya:
 
  • #175
It was in the People article.

Thanks MamaK - how could I have missed that while scanning the article and unloading the grocery cart? :crazy:

I wish someone would come out and say that the neighbor saw Lisa on Monday evening. I see why it can be assumed if neighbor was there at 5:30 and Lisa was reportedly put to bed at 6:40, but still not seeing any statements to confirm clearly that anyone other than Debbi say Lisa on Monday. Unless I missed something, Lisa's not in the wine video. Lisa's not said to be at dinner with the neighbor and the boys. Lisa's not said to have been playing with the boys and the neighbor girl at any time that night. Just Debbi seeing her for the last time standing in her crib sometime shortly after 6:40 p.m.

Maybe nothing, just kinda nagging at me. Maybe it will come up in MSM today.
 
  • #176
We'd have to go back and look at the interviews.
No need, I never heard her say she was charging them either. But if she does say that then an electrical outlet, nearby, would be necessary.
 
  • #177
changing her hair and color could be to keep from someone maybe recognizing her from her past of present...like maybe someone who hasn't seen a picture of her yet and notices her, and remembers seeing her?

Considering the "friends" that spoke out against her already claimed she looked completely different, I find that unlikely. They said her hair was a lot darker, she was thin, and had large chests. She said "She was QUITE cute". So IOW, she already looks a lot different from her past according to some. MOO
 
  • #178
changing her hair and color could be to keep from someone maybe recognizing her from her past of present...like maybe someone who hasn't seen a picture of her yet and notices her, and remembers seeing her?

Her hair cut and color are so subtle that I didn't even notice. She was wearing ponytails before so often, and honestly her hair color looks about the same to me. (I say "about" the same because I trust you all in your observation that her hair is now a different color, but in her photos with baby Lisa and her photos right now, her hair color looks actually identical to me).
 
  • #179
:waitasec: Sure looks like they took a carpet!

We have carpeting in our home, but also have very large area rugs, maybe it's a huge area rug and not the actual carpeting...
 
  • #180
:waitasec: Sure looks like they took a carpet!

They carried the carpet around, apparently. In a MSM article, it was stated that carpet actually was in the shed, they took it out, and put it back. No carpet is listed in the items taken from the home, I don't believe.
 
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