local media's first home tour and presser 10/27/11 **cancelled**

[EllaMae]

You also are making assumptions that may be based on misinformation.

We are privy to what Lisa's parents are NOT doing. They are not sitting down individually with detectives today to answer questions. That's fact, not misinformation as is the fact they cancelled. Seems to be a pattern of evasiveness on their part and yes, I am going to use their actions to make an assumption or two or three. I think the reason the lawyer cancelled the presser is because she knows she can not represent both JI and DB during LE interviews.

JMO

You don't know WHY. There may be a valid reason. There may not be. An opinion is simply not a fact, and neither is a rumor.

 

[JeannaT]

:twocents: FWIW, I think that DB is getting really stressed and nervous thinking about what the boys may say when they are interviewed. She most likely knows that they know something about what happened to Lisa. These boys are old enough to be able to just talk and talk and talk.

I think they're likely to say she drinks more than she's admitted to, maybe has passed out before, etc., but I don't think there is anything they know about what happened to Lisa.

That's just my gut.

 

[Turnadot]

For those who say why can't they do more, I'd be up there 24/7, I'd be in front of the cameras right now, etc., . . . people have actually DIED from this kind of grief and stress. They've actually dropped dead in situations like this.

So it's not like they're a bit winded, could use a long weekend and a soak in a tub, it's likely they are at risk for a heart attack, a TIA, or a seizure from this stress.

I don't care about their risk, and they shouldn't either. Would I care about my risk before running into a burning building to save my baby? Heck no.

To me this situation is no different. My health risk could go F itself.

ETA: I don't ask why they don't do more.

I ask why they don't do anything to advocate for Lisa.

 

[GEORGIAGIRL69]

If you don't know what they are doing....you can't be sure of what they are not doing either. We, as posters on a message board, have no idea what's going on behind the scenes.

BBM. Of course I can be sure of what they are not doing. It is my opinion that they are doing nothing to bring their baby home. I don't need to know what's going on behind the scenes. Their inaction is loud and clear. MOO.

 

[MyBelle]

We don't have all the fact of this case, and the parents are not required to give accurate facts to posters on a message board.We have no way of knowing which things are true, and which things are not true As in any case, sometimes the media initially publishes things that are wrong, and sometimes people change small details as they go along. Since DB was probably hung over the first day, it's possible she did get things wrong. And she may have only been trying to hide her drinking, and not anything more. At this point, DB looks like she could be involved, but it's not a sure thing yet.

DB may be guilty of something. JI may be guilty as well. But all the jumping on them without any real information, all the rumors being restated as facts, and all the opinions and diagnoses being posted as fact is a little disturbing.

It is fact, not rumor, that DB freely admitted the drinking on a national television program so I don't know why you want to believe she tried to hide it. I consider her admission to be just a way to avoid answering LE questions with anything other than, "I don't remember." I think DB, JI and the truth are all strangers.

JMO

 

[JeannaT]

I don't care about their risk, and they shouldn't either. Would I care about my risk before running into a burning building to save my baby? Heck no.

To me this situation is no different. My health risk could go F itself.

She does have another child to live for.

And I think a parent running into a burning building has a very great chance of success (also a great risk to their lives) but I don't see how holding yet another opportunity to speak to the media will do much to bring this baby back.

My guess is she'd run into a burning building every day to save her children, and it would likely work. Press conferences, not so much.

 

[grandmaj]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

 

[EllaMae]

Fully cooperating parents, willing to do whatever it takes to help find their daughter, which includes enduring possible LE tough talk, who use the media to focus on their daughter, have a consistent time line and prefer to stay sober when they are the sole care taker the night their daughter disappears, might be considered victims.

But ultimately, there is only one victim. And she's not complaining about LE, exhaustion nor choosing "me time"

She's saying nothing because she can't. And those who can speak up for her and saw her last, won't.

Anyway, this latest tour cancellation is just another thing on a growing list of oddities.
There is no excuse for claiming exhaustion.

I hope LE catches a break soon. Regardless of "whodunit" Lisa deserves to be found and this circus needs to end.

All my opinion :twocents:

It was not DB and JI making the claim of exhaustion.

Their lawyer made that statement, and we don't know why she said what she did. It could be true, or it could be lawyer speak for some other reason.

It's premature to rip the parents apart for something their lawyer said probably because the very same lawyer screwed up, or something changed in the legal area of the case to cause the cancellation.

 

[GEORGIAGIRL69]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

BBM. I agree grandmaj. My .02 is that the stress is stemming from one or both parents keeping a horrible secret. MOO.

 

[JeannaT]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

Exhaustion can happen overnight. She could have been extremely tired for a couple weeks, and when she woke up this morning she couldn't put two words together in a row. She may now be on stronger medication. I can't be the only one who's ever known people who have a complete breakdown after holding it together fairly well, and then just suddenly they can't. They just can't even walk across the room.

I don't know that's what happened, but I've certainly seen that. I had a dear friend who went temporarily hysterically blind when they told her her baby had a serious disability. She was completely blind for several weeks.

Stuff like that can happen.

 

[grandmaj]

We don't have all the fact of this case, and the parents are not required to give accurate facts to posters on a message board.We have no way of knowing which things are true, and which things are not true As in any case, sometimes the media initially publishes things that are wrong, and sometimes people change small details as they go along. Since DB was probably hung over the first day, it's possible she did get things wrong. And she may have only been trying to hide her drinking, and not anything more. At this point, DB looks like she could be involved, but it's not a sure thing yet.

DB may be guilty of something. JI may be guilty as well. But all the jumping on them without any real information, all the rumors being restated as facts, and all the opinions and diagnoses being posted as fact is a little disturbing.

Disagreeing with other posters is good. Alternative points of view is what makes a message board worth posting on.

However, it is the job of the moderators here to see to it that rumors are not being stated as fact, that our posters are respecting alternative points of view and that we are exploring this case using Main stream media reports and the reports of the parents themselves. We cannot save the parents from themselves if they have out of their own mouths changed stories. We don't allow rumors. We do allow speculation.

If you see a post that doesn't meet TOS or is rude or is against our rules that is why we have an alert button. That would be the way to have a moderator who is familiar with the rules and this case take a look.

Thanks.

 

[Turnadot]

She does have another child to live for.

And I think a parent running into a burning building has a very great chance of success (also a great risk to their lives) but I don't see how holding yet another opportunity to speak to the media will do much to bring this baby back.

My guess is she'd run into a burning building every day to save her children, and it would likely work. Press conferences, not so much.

How about pounding the streets most days with flyers, or contacting a missing children's foundation for help in educating the public in looking for a live Lisa. Humanize Lisa to the public, set up a center and offer buttons with Lisa's face, and here, have a flyer - have thirty, pass them around, please.

Can she do any that at least?

I'm all out of give a crap for DB and I've run out of excuses for why she isn't advocating for her helpless infant.

IMO

 

[KathrynL]

It was my assumption that the tour of the house was going to be conducted by their attorney. I didn't think that DB and JI were going to be there. I got the impression this week that Short was going to handle the media. I could be wrong, but the cancellation made me scratch my head a bit since I really thought it was going to be CS's gig.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

I remember Drew Peterson would not let his kids be questioned and they called the kids before the grand jury. The kids were questioned by specialist like they do in missouri. I wonder if they can do that if parents refuse?

 

[KCMommie]

Question for clarification. I'm a bit lost.
A new version?
The press release from the parents attorney released a new "Kidnapped" flyer for Lisa indicates she's been missing since October 4th. I thought the last time DB checked on Lisa was October 3rd at 6:40 pm, and she is "not sure" about times after that? Has something changed that I missed?


Scroll down to the 9:21 entry. "A new flyer is released by the attorney representing baby Lisa's parents."

Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1c15AIxK7

 

[Mountain_Kat]

BBM. I agree grandmaj. My .02 is that the stress is stemming from one or both parents keeping a horrible secret. MOO.

That's my personal feeling as well, Gerogiagirl. But the thing is...they can't keep avoiding confrontation. Especially not with LE. It doesn't work that way. Sooner or later, the truth IS going to come out...all this is doing is prolonging the inevitable, imo.

 

[grandmaj]

Exhaustion can happen overnight. She could have been extremely tired for a couple weeks, and when she woke up this morning she couldn't put two words together in a row. She may now be on stronger medication. I can't be the only one who's ever known people who have a complete breakdown after holding it together fairly well, and then just suddenly they can't. They just can't even walk across the room.

I don't know that's what happened, but I've certainly seen that. I had a dear friend who went temporarily hysterically blind when they told her her baby had a serious disability. She was completely blind for several weeks.

Stuff like that can happen.

Could happen. But I disagree that is what is happening here. IMO something else is happening.

 

[josie1986]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

i hope your right,Lisa needs to be found.i also agree that they are worried about what the boys might say.


i think LE are getting close,too close for comfort for DB and/or JI nor do i think it was a coincidence that they just happened to cancel all their appointments and LE conduct another search.

kinda O/T but im on a rant :rocker: ....

its been more than a week since the SW was executed right? i think some of the results have started coming back and something showed up to lead them to the area that was searched today.

is there anyone local that could say if there are any other park/pond areas that are similar to this within reasonable distance of the Irwin/Bradley home?

MOO

 

[MyBelle]

You don't know WHY. There may be a valid reason. There may not be. An opinion is simply not a fact, and neither is a rumor.

I didn't post a rumor.

It is my opinion that there is only one reason for refusing to answer LE questions: SELFISHNESS.

JMO

 

[nomoresorrow]

(BBM)

She does have another child to live for.

And I think a parent running into a burning building has a very great chance of success (also a great risk to their lives) but I don't see how holding yet another opportunity to speak to the media will do much to bring this baby back.

My guess is she'd run into a burning building every day to save her children, and it would likely work. Press conferences, not so much.

Speaking to the media is ANOTHER opportunity to speak to the ABDUCTOR. If they truly believe that someone kidnapped Lisa, they would jump at any/all opportunities to speak THROUGH the media to the ABDUCTOR!