local media's first home tour and presser 10/27/11 **cancelled**

[JeannaT]

Question for clarification. I'm a bit lost.
A new version?
The press release from the parents attorney released a new "Kidnapped" flyer for Lisa indicates she's been missing since October 4th. I thought the last time DB checked on Lisa was October 3rd at 6:40 pm, and she is "not sure" about times after that? Has something changed that I missed?


Scroll down to the 9:21 entry. "A new flyer is released by the attorney representing baby Lisa's parents."

Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1c15AIxK7

Oct. 4 is the date that has been used in this case, because that's the day she was reported missing, the day it was discovered that she was missing.

 

[EllaMae]

It is fact, not rumor, that DB freely admitted the drinking on a national television program so I don't know why you want to believe she tried to hide it. I consider her admission to be just a way to avoid answering LE questions with anything other than, "I don't remember." I think DB, JI and the truth are all strangers.

JMO

Re-read my post. I think you misunderstood my point.
I was talking about in the early days. DB may not have wanted LE to know she had been drinking excessively. That fact did not come out until several days had passed. We don't know when LE discovered it, or when she told them. All I said was that it could have been the reason for the later timeline revisions.

I was not talking about the drinking itself not being a fact.

 

[JeannaT]

(BBM)


Speaking to the media is ANOTHER opportunity to speak to the ABDUCTOR. If they truly believe that someone kidnapped Lisa, they would jump at any/all opportunities to speak THROUGH the media to the ABDUCTOR!

Do you remember when Josie Lou Ratley was so severely beaten, and her mother did an interview with some show - I think it was GMA?

She couldn't talk. The woman literally could not comprehend the questions she was being asked, and couldn't answer them.

Weeks later as Josie recovered, her true personality returned and she's poised, fluid, calm.

I think you might be interested in googling that case and looking at her. Deborah might look like that right now.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

ITA gram and would like to add my :twocents:

I do think there is some discussion as to conducting the interview of the boys tomorrow. Those boys KNOW - whether or not its only one that actually "witnessed" something - they both know now because brothers will talk. The parents (plural) also KNOW that the boys KNOW. The parents (or maybe just one) wants this to STOP. Give it up - so to speak. To save the boys from all this.

Maybe its not the parents at all but the grandparent(s) that are trying to get the parents to understand - just give in - tell what you know type thing.

I do think this was an accident. I do. I'm convinced of it.

I hope and pray that this festering discourse will come to a "healthy" end and little Baby Lisa can be laid to rest properly.


But that's JMHO

 

[Turnadot]

Do you remember when Josie Lou Ratley was so severely beaten, and her mother did an interview with some show - I think it was GMA?

She couldn't talk. The woman literally could not comprehend the questions she was being asked, and couldn't answer them.

Weeks later as Josie recovered, her true personality returned and she's poised, fluid, calm.

I think you might be interested in googling that case and looking at her. Deborah might look like that right now.

I wonder how her helpless infant looks right now.

 

[tehcloser]

Do you remember when Josie Lou Ratley was so severely beaten, and her mother did an interview with some show - I think it was GMA?

She couldn't talk. The woman literally could not comprehend the questions she was being asked, and couldn't answer them.

Weeks later as Josie recovered, her true personality returned and she's poised, fluid, calm.

I think you might be interested in googling that case and looking at her. Deborah might look like that right now.

Well, she sure didn't seem to be that way last week on her media tour....seems she only gets tired and stuff when the er..., when the going gets tuff.

 

[nomoresorrow]

Do you remember when Josie Lou Ratley was so severely beaten, and her mother did an interview with some show - I think it was GMA?

She couldn't talk. The woman literally could not comprehend the questions she was being asked, and couldn't answer them.

Weeks later as Josie recovered, her true personality returned and she's poised, fluid, calm.

I think you might be interested in googling that case and looking at her. Deborah might look like that right now.

I am familiar with the case but, IMO, there is no comparson between the two cases whatsoever.

 

[GEORGIAGIRL69]

I didn't post a rumor.

It is my opinion that there is only one reason for refusing to answer LE questions: SELFISHNESS.

JMO

Or guilt ... MOO.

 

[JeannaT]

Could happen. But I disagree that is what is happening here. IMO something else is happening.

MM hm. Could well be.

 

[JeannaT]

I am familiar with the case but, IMO, there is no comparson between the two cases whatsoever.

I'm not talking about how similar the cases are. I'm talking about watching someone who is so struck with grief that she literally can't speak. Josie's mother VERY much wanted to speak out, and she could not.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Do you remember when Josie Lou Ratley was so severely beaten, and her mother did an interview with some show - I think it was GMA?

She couldn't talk. The woman literally could not comprehend the questions she was being asked, and couldn't answer them.

Weeks later as Josie recovered, her true personality returned and she's poised, fluid, calm.

I think you might be interested in googling that case and looking at her. Deborah might look like that right now.

Was that interview when she could not talk 3 weeks after the beating?

This post makes me think you have inside information for some reason.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Do you remember when Josie Lou Ratley was so severely beaten, and her mother did an interview with some show - I think it was GMA?

She couldn't talk. The woman literally could not comprehend the questions she was being asked, and couldn't answer them.

Weeks later as Josie recovered, her true personality returned and she's poised, fluid, calm.

I think you might be interested in googling that case and looking at her. Deborah might look like that right now.

I have to disagree JeannaT. I live here - where Josie was beaten. Josie's mom acted like a truely grieving mom. I see absolutely no comparison to her behavior and DB's - none. Yes, she was "severely broken" the first few weeks (actually) - but she was willing to speak to any LE - even when the general public was almost starting to blame Josie for the texts she sent.

When Josie's mom spoke, you could see her pain, you could feel her shake - I have yet to see that with DB. Josie's mom never got "flip" with any reporter and still doesn't to this day.

I just don't see that comparison at all. And that's JMHO

 

[RR0004]

Question for clarification. I'm a bit lost.
A new version?
The press release from the parents attorney released a new "Kidnapped" flyer for Lisa indicates she's been missing since October 4th. I thought the last time DB checked on Lisa was October 3rd at 6:40 pm, and she is "not sure" about times after that? Has something changed that I missed?


Scroll down to the 9:21 entry. "A new flyer is released by the attorney representing baby Lisa's parents."

Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1c15AIxK7

It could be they're attempting to validate the "witnesses" accounts of when they saw a man with a baby...early morning on the 4th.
Just a thought...

 

[JeannaT]

Was that interview when she could not talk 3 weeks after the beating?

This post makes me think you have inside information for some reason.

Inside information? No, I don't. I'm stating, from watching others melt down, that maybe that's what's happened to Deborah.

But no. I don't know anything about either case that those here don't know.

And I forget how long it was after Josie's beating. Probably within the first couple days, maybe? During that time, Deborah was keeping it together fairly well and was able to communicate.

 

[Magnifying Glass]

It was not DB and JI making the claim of exhaustion.

Their lawyer made that statement, and we don't know why she said what she did. It could be true, or it could be lawyer speak for some other reason.

It's premature to rip the parents apart for something their lawyer said probably because the very same lawyer screwed up, or something changed in the legal area of the case to cause the cancellation.

If their lawyer is making claims without them knowing, agreeing to said statement or is spinning it because of something going on behind the scenes....that doesn't scream a fruitful representation, IMO.

I'm not ripping anyone apart. It's a combination of various factors that have me questioning their priorities. It's my opinion. I care about Lisa and I wish words like "exhaustion" - "not sitting down separately with LE" etc spoken by any of the players in this case wouldn't even be uttered or apparently necessary.

It's certainly not helping Lisa. The victim.

All my opinion :twocents:

 

[Turnadot]

I'm not talking about how similar the cases are. I'm talking about watching someone who is so struck with grief that she literally can't speak.

I get what you're saying, and I respect your POV, but I'm not buying it in this case. DB can speak just fine and has been alert, responsive, sarcastic, even, when the subject is focused on her and defending being s-faced the night her baby was abducted.

Last week on her media rounds, she had no problem speaking.

But this week she's so grief stricken she can't talk?

I don't believe that for a second.

IMO

 

[KCMommie]

I wonder how her helpless infant looks right now.

I can't get that potential image, or images out of my mind. It's been cold here...leaves are falling, wet... I know that searchers are met with this same thought every day. I feel for them. Meanwhile, Mom and Dad are warm safe at home complaining they just need rest! >:-/

All the while trying to convince everyone it's all about "them" their misjudged souls. According to the parents and their representation LE should go far, far away to find Lisa. No clues are at the scene of the crime, or near there, so quit looking; it's a "Waste, Waste. Waste" of time (Quote taken from DB).

Maybe they are actually telling us something there?

Bizarre behavior.,

 

[shay0903]

You know I finally got to watch the full clip of Cyndi Short showing GMA the tour of the home and she OBVIOUSLY is defending them!!! or atleast IMO! she says they didnt take evidence of a "hit" well...nobody has proof that the "hit" wasnt the comforter taken?? I mean how many people throw there comforters on the floor when they jump out of bed in shock??!?!?? And...she said the police should have done more finger printing??? Cyndi Short needs to read the following article and think about all the xrays we seen the police (or feel thats most likely what we saw anyways) complete that day and how they reveal better evidence of fingerprinting than just dusting!!! uhhhhummm...I feel a defense building up bigger and bigger! http://www.sciencedaily.com/videos/2006/1208-csi_xray_fingerprints.htm

 

[MyBelle]

I fear a couple of things. That there is legal maneuvering behind the scenes to stop the interview of the boys tomorrow.

I also think this interview could be a very stressful time for the parents in that they have no idea what might come out.\

I also wonder if there is something else brewing for example a division in the ranks of the family.

Something is brewing. Exhaustion didn't happen overnight. Something else is brewing and is about to erupt is my feeling.

It may be that their attorney advised the parents to go ahead with the boys' interview because--if they are innocent--there is no reason not to allow it. If the parents are angry about it, the attorney could withdraw from the case because they refuse to take her advice.

JMO

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Why do I get the feeling that DB and JI will be spirited away to a posh resort for some R & R? What parents would take a break from trying to find their missing baby if they knew that she could still be alive and out there somewhere?