long weekend break: discuss the latest here #101

[JusticeJunkie]

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2iupea&s=6

I hope this works, I don't get into trouble. Ala finger Arias.

Thanks - it worked!! What nerve that woman has!!

 

[Kakidoll]

On 9/9/2011 the trial date is reset to 2/21/2012 due to the primary defense witness needing to withdraw because of a health issue. A new witness will need to be retained and allowed time to prepare for the trial.

Anyone know who the primary defense witness WAS????? and what health issue? so who was the 'replacement?

TIA

 

[mtnmom1963]

I think Juan's point was that she didn't have TIME to go find ANY knife - she had to have had it on her person at the time of the attack.

She probably had it in her sock , somewhere was mention of cuts or abraisions on her ankles. She took everything with her that she brought cept for her palm print and the shell casing.

 

[bsk]

WOW!!!! You put a lot of work into this. Awesome find, give yourself a gold star and thanks for putting that together.:rocker:

Thanks. I probably spent about an hour this morning inching through youtube videos to put those three pieces together.

What I don't get is why Willmott even raised that third one, unless it conflicted with something Jodi had said on the stand. It just made her witness contradict himself without adding anything in Jodi's favor.

 

[Pink Panther]

I don't know if that's true but Katie DDJ said she was just an elderly woman who she talked to just before she vomited. I don't think anyone said she was a witness. KCL had said someone else was a witness to Doc Sam rolling through the vomit, but no one has said she was a witness.

I guess I misunderstood. Sorry, don't mean to add confusion.

 

[gcharlie]

one thought is that in the process of transcribing answers, sending them in to the DT and then redoing them and losing copies all over the place he accidently sent the "wrong" one and the Pros expert got it. In one way it doesn't even matter. This "expert" is the most pathetic record keeper I've ever seen. No answer sheet for Jodi, answers on blank paper, he fills out actual answers and scores them but then sends it to defense so doesn't have it for trial so fills out and scores a new one which obviously doesn't comport with the first. Not to mention he actually didn't have enough criteria to find PTSD-he missed them but said he knew they applied just didn't count them and not to forget he made a mathematical error by writing 6 when the answer was 4....

You know he did not act professionally to really render a diagnosis but it would be great if Juan can illustrate that painfully in court-beyond what he's already done which is considerable. I don't find the juror questions displayed any "awe" in the face of this "expert" so I suspect Juan's work is basically done.

There's been a lot of questionable "stuff" brought up with regard to Dick's testimony, but I haven't seen anything on something that caught my attention. Hoping others can help out here.

Twice in his early testimony, Dick explained JA's previous versions of events as denial, a coping mechanism under severe stress. He said something to the effect that she had no family, no friends that she could turn to and ended with something like "can you imagine how horrendous this must have been for her?" I remember being shocked first that he would say it (trying to elicit sympathy and stepping beyond the boundaries of his professional role) and surprised by JM not objecting.

JM had to notice this, so why didn't he object and what might he be planning? He's already had cross and did not bring it up then, so I am confused. The man does have a brilliant mind in terms of strategy and timing; he can see the jury getting worn out by certain things...IMO he goes for certain things when he feels they will have significant impact.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Didn't one of the young ladies mention the slashed tires? I can't remember who it was.

It was Mimi - Juan's first witness.

 

[Venom]

Grrrr. It's frustrating when I ask a bunch of questions and can't get answers. I know the thread goes fast and things get missed but still, very frustrating. Taking a break for a bit. Have a good afternoon everyone.

I know.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

Just wanted to double thank you:seeya:

Thanks! :seeya:

 

[JusticeJunkie]

On 9/9/2011 the trial date is reset to 2/21/2012 due to the primary defense witness needing to withdraw because of a health issue. A new witness will need to be retained and allowed time to prepare for the trial.

Anyone know who the primary defense witness WAS????? and what health issue? so who was the 'replacement?

TIA

It was their first DV witness - but they don't give her name.
I'd be sick, too, if I had to testify for Arias.

 

[Arishia]

I googled this, but all I found was the people thought it might be possible. I thought I might find someone who claimed on FB that they'd fooled a camera, but I couldn't find anything. Even the people who work with the cameras don't seem to know. It appears to be an urban legend -- although that could mean that Jodi had heard it would work.

I've wondered about that assertion, too. My understanding is that running a red light trips a sensor that activates a digital camera to snap a photo. A human being reads the license plate in the photo and the process continues down the line. Simply having it upside down would only require rotating the photo to be easily read. What am I missing here? Do they have image to text software in the loop somewhere? Surely they haven't gone to all the expense of installing image to text software without a way of marking the unreadable ones for further review by humans. That theory, "she put it upside down to avoid being caught by red light cameras" just never made any sense to me.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I distinctly remember JM asking JA, "Nobody ever saw you in AZ, did they?"
I remember JA responding something to the effect of, "Not true, there should be cameras."

I'm paraphrasing here I'm positive this was the gist of the exchange.

I'm pretty sure that was during the Flores interview.

 

[coup de grace]

Anyone think there is anything to the theory one of Dr. Drews fellow guest docs speculated about on his show:

Jodi shot travis first
Gun jammed
causing her to then be forced to blugeon him

Even if she first attacked him with the knife in the shower, still seems super ballsy and risky, considering he could have overpowered her.

 

[MeeBee]

I've wondered about that assertion, too. My understanding is that running a red light trips a sensor that activates a digital camera to snap a photo. A human being reads the license plate in the photo and the process continues down the line. Simply having it upside down would only require rotating the photo to be easily read. What am I missing here? Do they have image to text software in the loop somewhere? Surely they haven't gone to all the expense of installing image to text software without a way of marking the unreadable ones for further review by humans. That theory, "she put it upside down to avoid being caught by red light cameras" just never made any sense to me.

Makes sense to me. She probably heard somewhere that the cameras can't read your plates if they're upside down. The front one was also missing. I know she must have been aware of cameras because she brings them up incessantly, telling him to check the cameras, check the cameras, in an effort to prove she wasn't there that day. He finally tells her, unless you ran a red light there's no point really. So no, we haven't checked the cameras. She planned ahead, and I am sure the plates fooling the cameras were part of her plan.

 

[Jimmynap]

I distinctly remember JM asking JA, "Nobody ever saw you in AZ, did they?"
I remember JA responding something to the effect of, "Not true, there should be cameras."

I'm paraphrasing here I'm positive this was the gist of the exchange.

In one of the Det. interviews JA was under the impression intersection cams are video running all the time. Det. Flores corrected her but I guess she wasn't listening or didn't believe him.

 

[sysmanager1963]

I googled this, but all I found was the people thought it might be possible. I thought I might find someone who claimed on FB that they'd fooled a camera, but I couldn't find anything. Even the people who work with the cameras don't seem to know. It appears to be an urban legend -- although that could mean that Jodi had heard it would work.

Possibly b/c Jodi mentioned that to Flores...."what about cameras on the road-couldn't you look at those to see if I was in the area" or something like that.

 

[justsharing]

What do you think must be going thru LaViolette's mind after Samuel's little tete a tete with Juan?lease:

anic::doh:anic:

 

[mobius99]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6USg__UaHLs

Enjoy! Starts a little more than halfway.

Thank you!

I watched it. It looks to me like the Defense was aware of the shenanigans with the raw data that the Dr was trying to cover up.

If that's the case, can the Defense get in trouble?

 

[G&AMom]

I've wondered about that assertion, too. My understanding is that running a red light trips a sensor that activates a digital camera to snap a photo. A human being reads the license plate in the photo and the process continues down the line. Simply having it upside down would only require rotating the photo to be easily read. What am I missing here? Do they have image to text software in the loop somewhere? Surely they haven't gone to all the expense of installing image to text software without a way of marking the unreadable ones for further review by humans. That theory, "she put it upside down to avoid being caught by red light cameras" just never made any sense to me.

I agree. One description I read of the process was that the photo would be kicked over to a human being if there was a problem. Either way, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that reversing the plate would fool the camera. That doesn't mean, though, that Jodi didn't BELIEVE it would.

ETA: the most common stories for trying to fool the camera were using a Sharpie to turn a P into an R, or using White-Out to turn an R into a P.

 

[popsicle]

Makes sense to me. She probably heard somewhere that the cameras can't read your plates if they're upside down. The front one was also missing. I know she must have been aware of cameras because she brings them up incessantly, telling him to check the cameras, check the cameras, in an effort to prove she wasn't there that day. He finally tells her, unless you ran a red light there's no point really. So no, we haven't checked the cameras. She planned ahead, and I am sure the plates fooling the cameras were part of her plan.

The cameras don't read your plates they take a picture and then it is mailed to you. She said check the cameras because she switched the plates on the car thus they would never find those plates on any camera. jmo