long weekend break: discuss the latest here #102

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  • #201
"The sound waves are hitting my ears, but my mind is not computing."
I'm thinking we may hear that very phrase come out of LaViolette's mouth. Any wagers?

Please don't bash her until she gets on to the witness stand. I understand what she works for (DV) and approve of it highly - but don't you think she must have come across a few (if only some) women who use this excuse erroneously, i.e., out of spite?

In spite of what he dreams of (about rising to fame as a book writer) RS's credibility and professionalism have taken a major hit these last few days - he is the joke of the media - TV, radio and Internet. Who would really buy a book by him? What reputable publisher would offer him the opportunity?

Do you really think that Alyce LaViolette would subject herself to the same ridicule?
 
  • #202
Please don't bash her until she gets on to the witness stand. I understand what she works for (DV) and approve of it highly - but don't you think she must have come across a few (if only some) women who use this excuse erroneously, i.e., out of spite?

In spite of what he dreams of (about rising to fame as a book writer) RS's credibility and professionalism have taken a major hit these last few days - he is the joke of the media - TV, radio and Internet. Who would really buy a book by him? What reputable publisher would offer him the opportunity?

Do you really think that Alyce LaViolette would subject herself to the same ridicule?

I don't know her but yes I do think she might. I won't be surprised if she has been following this case and knows all the evidence & has watched all the videos. Is everyone out to get published in the name of legal defense, psychology, domestic violence...it is what it is. I have no doubt anymore.

We own a business and if we had to 🤬🤬🤬🤬 ourselves like this, I'd be on an island selling coconuts before I'd stoop so low or put blinders on and act like I didn't know the facts as witnessed in this case. jmo
 
  • #203
Have a few questions:

1) Has the gun that was used to shoot TA been found? If so, I haven't seen a picture of it.
What kind of gun was allegedly stolen from the grandfather's house? Is it possibly to get a rough estimate of the firing pin of that gun and match it to the casing found at the crime scene?

2) Did TA have .25 ACP ammo in the house? There's back and forth the she brought the gun, and her allegedly using a gun that Travis owns. There is a picture in evidence of .22lr and .22 mag ammo, but where is that picture taken.

3) Does the grandfather have .25 ACP ammo in the house, and if so, does it match the casing found at the crime scene?

4) Do any of the knives found in the house match the profile of the wounds in TA? (In other words, did she bring her own knife? Was she planning on just using the gun?)

5) Are there any side view pictures of the casing? IMO, it would be preferable to shoot TA first as using a knife for the initial attack would be easier for the victim to defend. I understand the casing is on top of blood, but could have been displaced during the altercation. If it was displaced, there may be blood on the sides of the casing in which we can't see from an aerial view. The entry is also angled, right to left downward. Possibly shot when TA was sitting in the shower.

6) Why would there be pictures of him and then apx one minute later the camera is in the hallway during all of this? Did she have the camera in her hand the whole time while stabbing him?

7) There's tassel from a pillow on the staircase, and talk about a knife was used to cut rope. Where is that knife, any rope residue on the knife? and where is the rope?

1) The gun used to shoot Travis has not been found. He was a shot by a .25 caliber weapon. The gun that was stolen from the Arias grandparents' house that belonged to her grandfather and where Jodi was living at the time was also a .25 caliber weapon and was stolen days before the murder.

2) Travis did not own a gun nor any ammo. Jodi is the only person claiming that Travis owned a gun though in the recording of one of her telephone calls with Det. Flores he specifically asked her if Travis owned any kinds of guns and she said he did not and that he only had his "two fists".

3) Not sure about the ammo and other guns the grandfather owned. There is a photo taken of the area of the house where he stored his guns and ammo, but I wouldn't know if he had ammo for that gun. I don't even recall what all is depicted in the photo or if there was more than one photo taken in that area. Seeing as he did have various guns and ammo in his house I would imagine that he did have ammo for the .25 caliber gun that was stolen.

4) Unknown about the knife. The medical examiner could only identify the approximate length and width of the knife most due to extensive body decomposition, but he could identify that it was sharp on one side and dull on the other like a kitchen knife. There were many knives found in the kitchen and dishwasher of various sizes one or more of which could have been used to kill Travis, but they were all clean. I don't know if all knives were present and accounted for, but they have not identified the specific knife that killed him, do not know if she brought a knife with her to stab him and took it with her when she left, and there was no bloody knife found at the scene.

5) The shell casing landed in a puddle of blood in the bathroom when ejected from the gun. As the casing was pristine other than where it touched the blood puddle it could not have rolled into the puddle. Because of the margins of the blood puddle it was also found that the casing could not have rolled into the puddle nor pooled around the casing.

According to the medical examiner, the gun shot had to have come after the stabbing as Travis had defensive cuts on his hands and I think one arm as well, and that when he was shot there was already too little blood in his body to rush out of the wound or fill his sinus cavities. He also said that when the bullet entered his head it went into his brain, and though there was too much decomposition to track the exact pathway of the bullet through the brain, he was able to tell that it did enter his brain to lodge in the opposite cheekbone. He said that this gunshot would have immediately rendered him incopacited if not killed him outright - unable to stand, move, etc.

Both the testimony of the medical examiner and the cross-examination of him was on Day 3 of the trial and available on YouTube.

6) It is unknown how the camera came to be in the hallway. At some point she was deliberately taking photos of Travis in the shower, but when the attack occurred there were no more photos until the accidental ceiling photo in the bathroom and the accidental photos in the hallway. At some point while continuing to attack him with the knife as Travis tried to get away down the hallway, the camera was probably kicked or dragged along. One of the detectives demonstrated during trial that the unintentional photos were probably taken when the camera was bumped, kicked or stepped on. He showed that when the camera was upsidedown on the floor it took very little pressure on the bottom side of the camera for the photo taking button to be depressed against the floor thereby taking a photo.

7) There was no rope. The rope is part of Jodi's ficticious story in order to try to explain why there was a knife handy upstairs. No rope was found at the scene nor any evidence of any rope, and the only knives found in the house were the clean kitchen knives in the kitchen some in a butcher block knife holder and some in the dishwasher. The tassle is from one of Travis's throw pillows he had on a large chair next to his bed. How the tassle got into some of the blood is unknown. Det. Flores testified about the photo of the tassle in the blood that was in one of the crime scene photos. The crime scene photo of the tassle in the blood was just because they thought it could be of some significance at the time, but there doesn't appear to be any significance about it. It may have been torn off the pillow when Jodi stripped the bed to wash the linens or it may have been torn off at some other time and just happened to be lying on the floor when the attack occurred.

It is likely that Jodi took both weapons with her when she left so they could not be identified as the weapons used or fingerprints pulled from them tracing back to her. Her story at the time was that she was not at Travis's house that day nor even in Arizona. She had to change her story to the two intruder story and that she was there when Travis was killed by these fictitious two intruders when Det. Flores confronted her with some of the photos extracted from the camera that she thought she had destroyed in the washing machine.
 
  • #204
OT: does anyone know the type of criminals that are housed at Perryville and how they differ from the criminals at the county jail? TIA

They don't have to wear pink underwear!:floorlaugh:
 
  • #205
There could be a different photo but this one shows the items on top of the gun cabinet.

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This photo is from JA's house in Yreka, CA, and was taken by LE after her grandparents (who owned and lived in the home). It is of the case or cabinet with JA's grandfather's long guns. The stolen handgun (.25) was NOT taken from this cabinet. It was taken from the grandfather's dresser.

Looking for a document re the .25 ammo found at JA's mother's house (but this is not a photo of JA's mother's house - or - apparently - any .25 ammo).

My guess is Gpa may have kept any .25 ammo near the .25 weapon (his dresser). The gun was inherited, he didn't know what make it was - only that it was old.

There may be something about this in rebuttal. The total blackout/silence on all of this (including the lack of media trying to elicit info from the grandparents about the gun) just makes me think there is something important yet to come regarding these issues - unless the grandparents have died... hope not - especially for their sakes...
 
  • #206
Please don't bash her until she gets on to the witness stand. I understand what she works for (DV) and approve of it highly - but don't you think she must have come across a few (if only some) women who use this excuse erroneously, i.e., out of spite?

In spite of what he dreams of (about rising to fame as a book writer) RS's credibility and professionalism have taken a major hit these last few days - he is the joke of the media - TV, radio and Internet. Who would really buy a book by him? What reputable publisher would offer him the opportunity?

Do you really think that Alyce LaViolette would subject herself to the same ridicule?

That is a really good question. I think we will find that out very quickly because supposedly she is going to vouch for Jodi about Travis being a pedophile. She has to get up there and sell that story if she wants to please her bosses. [Willmott/Nurmi]

From what we have heard, Juan seems to think that in the earliest meetings between Jodi and ALV, Jodi told her that TA was looking at pix of little boys on his computer. But after it came out that the computer and hard drive were clean, JA changed her story, to the wonderful free floating picture on the bed.

Juan confronted Jodi with that during his cross and she denied it vehemently.

So what is ALV going to say about that? I have to imagine there is SOMETHING in the record about thAt story change, or Juan would not have gone there.

So what is an ethical, high-minded DV expert going to do in a situation like this? I cannot believe that she would try to take on Juan and lie for Jodi, if in fact Jodi did change her story. Would she?
 
  • #207
Narcissistic sociopaths actually have very high self esteem.

I'd like to buy her for what she's worth and sell her for what SHE THINKS she's worth!!! :rocker:
 
  • #208
Good Morning all,

I know I have read here that Travis had a rough childhood. Can someone elaborate on that please?
 
  • #209
I don't know her but yes I do think she might. I won't be surprised if she has been following this case and knows all the evidence & has watched all the videos. Is everyone out to get published in the name of legal defense, psychology, domestic violence...it is what it is. I have no doubt anymore.

We own a business and if we had to 🤬🤬🤬🤬 ourselves like this, I'd be on an island selling coconuts before I'd stoop so low or put blinders on and act like I didn't know the facts as witnessed in this case. jmo

Have there been any instances in the past when an "expert" witness for one side or another ended up agreeing with the other side while on the witness stand?

I have read (through these forums) that ALV has been witness to much of the court testimony that has transpired so far. I have written in a previous post that JM has already proven (with JA's concurrence) that she has lied to the police, investigators, her defense (all of them at each time of their appointment), her evaluators; in fact, as JA said while on the witness stand, that she "lied to everyone".

Should ALV try to substantiate these claims/lies of JA she will will be setting back, by decades, any true claim to domestic violence by a woman - the very thing for which she was an outspoken advocate throughout the years. What a travesty!
 
  • #210
I haven't checked her history out but I'd say if she testifies like nothing has happened after JM proved Samuels as a slimey paid dude, it will be very telling. I'll listen with an open mind but they can only twist evidence so far. Glad JM is there.

It will be interesting to me for sure as well as others, I'm sure.
 
  • #211
Good Morning all,

I know I have read here that Travis had a rough childhood. Can someone elaborate on that please?

As far as I know, both of his parents were drug addicts, which is why he ended up living with his grandmother.
 
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1) The gun used to shoot Travis has not been found. He was a shot by a .25 caliber weapon. The gun that was stolen from the Arias grandparents' house that belonged to her grandfather and where Jodi was living at the time was also a .25 caliber weapon and was stolen days before the murder.

2) Travis did not own a gun nor any ammo. Jodi is the only person claiming that Travis owned a gun though in the recording of one of her telephone calls with Det. Flores he specifically asked her if Travis owned any kinds of guns and she said he did not and that he only had his "two fists".

3) Not sure about the ammo and other guns the grandfather owned. There is a photo taken of the area of the house where he stored his guns and ammo, but I wouldn't know if he had ammo for that gun. I don't even recall what all is depicted in the photo or if there was more than one photo taken in that area. Seeing as he did have various guns and ammo in his house I would imagine that he did have ammo for the .25 caliber gun that was stolen.

4) Unknown about the knife. The medical examiner could only identify the approximate length and width of the knife most due to extensive body decomposition, but he could identify that it was sharp on one side and dull on the other like a kitchen knife. There were many knives found in the kitchen and dishwasher of various sizes one or more of which could have been used to kill Travis, but they were all clean. I don't know if all knives were present and accounted for, but they have not identified the specific knife that killed him, do not know if she brought a knife with her to stab him and took it with her when she left, and there was no bloody knife found at the scene.

5) The shell casing landed in a puddle of blood in the bathroom when ejected from the gun. As the casing was pristine other than where it touched the blood puddle it could not have rolled into the puddle. Because of the margins of the blood puddle it was also found that the casing could not have rolled into the puddle nor pooled around the casing.

According to the medical examiner, the gun shot had to have come after the stabbing as Travis had defensive cuts on his hands and I think one arm as well, and that when he was shot there was already too little blood in his body to rush out of the wound or fill his sinus cavities. He also said that when the bullet entered his head it went into his brain, and though there was too much decomposition to track the exact pathway of the bullet through the brain, he was able to tell that it did enter his brain to lodge in the opposite cheekbone. He said that this gunshot would have immediately rendered him incopacited if not killed him outright - unable to stand, move, etc.

Both the testimony of the medical examiner and the cross-examination of him was on Day 3 of the trial and available on YouTube.

6) It is unknown how the camera came to be in the hallway. At some point she was deliberately taking photos of Travis in the shower, but when the attack occurred there were no more photos until the accidental ceiling photo in the bathroom and the accidental photos in the hallway. At some point while continuing to attack him with the knife as Travis tried to get away down the hallway, the camera was probably kicked or dragged along. One of the detectives demonstrated during trial that the unintentional photos were probably taken when the camera was bumped, kicked or stepped on. He showed that when the camera was upsidedown on the floor it took very little pressure on the bottom side of the camera for the photo taking button to be depressed against the floor thereby taking a photo.

7) There was no rope. The rope is part of Jodi's ficticious story in order to try to explain why there was a knife handy upstairs. No rope was found at the scene nor any evidence of any rope, and the only knives found in the house were the clean kitchen knives in the kitchen some in a butcher block knife holder and some in the dishwasher. The tassle is from one of Travis's throw pillows he had on a large chair next to his bed. How the tassle got into some of the blood is unknown. Det. Flores testified about the photo of the tassle in the blood that was in one of the crime scene photos. The crime scene photo of the tassle in the blood was just because they thought it could be of some significance at the time, but there doesn't appear to be any significance about it. It may have been torn off the pillow when Jodi stripped the bed to wash the linens or it may have been torn off at some other time and just happened to be lying on the floor when the attack occurred.

It is likely that Jodi took both weapons with her when she left so they could not be identified as the weapons used or fingerprints pulled from them tracing back to her. Her story at the time was that she was not at Travis's house that day nor even in Arizona. She had to change her story to the two intruder story and that she was there when Travis was killed by these fictitious two intruders when Det. Flores confronted her with some of the photos extracted from the camera that she thought she had destroyed in the washing machine.

You are brilliant!! And thank you for your post :seeya:
 
  • #214
I go with creepy and pathetic happening contemporaneously. Please, can somebody edify this?

:laughcry:

She doesn't want info in the interrogation interviews released according to the Dr. Drew show and a FB page.

I'm thinking that the new clips of her asking if she could do her makeup, doing headstands and fluffing her hair while her arms are handcuffed might be the targeted interrogation video they want kept out. I don't think it would really help the state much anyway. The jury is getting tired of this trial I'm sure.

As Arias would say, "the simple story" is that doc has TWO completed test results - ones he transferred from his own notes. He actually filled out the form himself (which must be against protocol), but one form reads 15 for the total, and the other reads 17.
The one he presented to the court is the "corrected" one that lists 17, but the earlier one that lists 15, is the only one he presented to the state. Juan has a copy of both (he got the second copy - listing 17, rather than 15) from his own expert witness, Demarke.
Doc is trying to pull something, and Juan is going to call him out on it on MONDAY!!!

If I were a juror I wouldn't consider any of his testimony to be valid in the slightest.

Lost her looks, has aged like crazy and can pass as her mother's sister.
Imagine what she will look like in 10 years.

BBM

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  • #215
Somebody in the last thread wanted captions for this picture;

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Here's mine; Don't worry about Dick's testimony. No jury will ever convict me.
 
  • #216
Travis writes some about his childhood in the excerpt from a book he was writing here http://travisalexander.blogspot.com/ It is the introduction to Raising You

Thank you both Whoa & Softail and I will check out his blog. Are his parents alive, I know I have seen his siblings in court but can not remember parents. Then again I am not able to keep up.
 
  • #217
Thank you both Whoa & Softail and I will check out his blog. Are his parents alive, I know I have seen his siblings in court but can not remember parents. Then again I am not able to keep up.

No, sadly his parents and grandmother are all deceased. That's why we only see his siblings in court.
 
  • #218
Thank you both Whoa & Softail and I will check out his blog. Are his parents alive, I know I have seen his siblings in court but can not remember parents. Then again I am not able to keep up.

IIRC, his parents are both deceased.
 
  • #219
IMO she has intentionally lost weight to gain sympathy from the jurors. :jail:

Actually, from the sound of what they feed her I think her weight loss is an effect of being jailed.

There seems to be a lot of mis-information going around on this issue. According to a poster (Karmandy-thank you!) who went to the courthouse and read the motion attached to the docket entry the protective order has to do with protecting sensitive information. In this case it's a motion preventing the disclosure of the detailed defense billing records that they have to submit to be compensated by the state.

:moo:

What are they trying to hide? Maybe they paid Dick Samuels a lot more than he claims. JMO
 
  • #220
Like some others here feel Jodi will get LWOP and surprsingly less, I feel like a wild banshee over TA's murder, it feels like dp.
 
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