long weekend break: discuss the latest here #103

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OT quick questions,
what is msm? usually see this refering to the media in posts.
what is <3? is it a hug?
tomhanks! :seeya:
 
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Well IMO, Judge Stephens is NO Belvin Perry. She certainly doesn't run a very tight ship, either. Court always starts late and she seems to be like a deer in the headlights at times. I'm sure it's not easy presiding over this case but she really needs to up her game!


Completely disagree. She is letting JA have every opportunity to defend herself. She is giving lots of leeway so that she is not overturned in case she gets the DP.
 
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Question - After the first girl kicked Jodi out in AZ where did she live for all those months b4 she moved back to CA in April 2008?
She moved into another house, even closer to TA - she was renting a room there.
 
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That reminds me Dr <mod snip> made the reference Jodi had to climb out a window at her grandparents house. What was that all about?

What?? They locked her inside her little room?

Sorry I missed it and most importantly when this allegedly occurred.
 
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Does anyone think the forged letters will be brought into evidence at all by Martinez to help prove that she is making up the pedophilia claim? If not, I wonder why?
 
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Each side is required to turn over everything unless it's work product. Work product includes anything that contains case strategy, theories or tactics of the attorneys. It's often hard to determine what is, and what is not, work product because many times there are test results or other testimonial evidence (discoverable) and strategic info (not discoverable) within the same document. So, it sounds like the judge found a few of the notes contained both.

Isn't that called trial by ambush! Which is what Jeffrey Ashton accused Baez of trying to do?
 
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Well IMO, Judge Stephens is NO Belvin Perry. She certainly doesn't run a very tight ship, either. Court always starts late and she seems to be like a deer in the headlights at times. I'm sure it's not easy presiding over this case but she really needs to up her game!
The court schedule isn't her fault, but her rulings are, and they are very inconsistent. She is bending over backwards to avoid an appeal, but a more experienced and confident judge wouldn't have to guess where the lines are drawn.
 
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Does anyone think the forged letters will be brought into evidence at all by Martinez to help prove that she is making up the pedophilia claim? If not, I wonder why?

I thought the bottom line on those letters was that there was not enough evidence as to their authorship for either side to use them. Someone correct me please if that is wrong..
 
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What?? They locked her inside her little room?

Sorry I missed it and most importantly when this allegedly occurred.
Samuels brought it up - I think during his last day of testimony. It was a response to how he knew the way Arias thought about Travis, and how she was so "used".
 
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I agree, it's to be taken for what it's worth. However, it would make sense. He was planning the trip while they were dating. Why wouldn't you make your girlfriend your plus one?

It is also possible that HLN's PPL source is Gus Searcy! :floorlaugh:
 
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Question - After the first girl kicked Jodi out in AZ where did she live for all those months b4 she moved back to CA in April 2008?

IIRC she found a room to rent in a house that she found through a website for LDS church members looking for roommates. Can't recall the name.
 
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I thought the bottom line on those letters was that there was not enough evidence as to their authorship for either side to use them. Someone correct me please if that is wrong..

That's my understanding. No one has seen the originals, so they're pretty well useless as evidence.
 
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There is tons of speculation as to whether he knew/didn't know she was coming, whether she had a key or not, some have said at times she let herself in through the dog door...personally I think she had a key. She stayed with him at times and at one point was his "cleaning lady," so it would make sense.

IIRC, TA did not lock his house, there was a keypad on the garage door though. It is interesting though, that after all that time not being there,she apparently let herself in somehow cause she said she walked up behind TA and Naps and watched him on his computer.
 
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Reading around again today I came across this:

http://kristinarandle.com/blog/a-ps...hat-jodi-arias-may-have-been-like-as-a-youth/

This article brings up a good point. Arias' parents are NOT on the defense witness list. It would make sense that if Arias was "abused" by the wooden spoon, hit, shoved etc. by both of her parents, wouldn't they want to testify to that? To help their daughter? Hmmmm...

Mmhmm....it started early.

Jodi testified that her father slapped her after an incident in which she was caught sneaking out and staying out all night. Upon her return her father questioned her about where she had been. She responded “I don’t know” whereupon he allegedly slapped her twice, knocking her to the ground. [Emphasis mine]
 
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IIRC, TA did not lock his house, there was a keypad on the garage door though. It is interesting though, that after all that time not being there,she apparently let herself in somehow cause she said she walked up behind TA and Naps and watched him on his computer.

BBM. So she says, anyway.

Sorry, dog doesn't want me sitting in front of the laptop any more. He's trying to type for me. Oy.
 
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What?? They locked her inside her little room?

Sorry I missed it and most importantly when this allegedly occurred.

This was Sam the Man slipping in another tidbit in an effort to support the Jodi was a dirty little secret theory. It referred to an imaginary incident at Travis' grandmother's, where Arias was supposed to leave through the window because Travis was ashamed of her - or some little lie like that.
 
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I thought PPL had her down as his "guest" originally and that was changed to Mimi Hall.

Some TH on Friday said Jodi was scheduled to go on that trip but then TA changed it to Mimi. I don't have any of the particulars.
 
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