long weekend break: discuss the latest here #114

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  • #861
If am interpreting correctly, during the sealed in chambers questioning of all the jurors due to Nurmi's concern that Juan Martinez was guilty of Prosecutorial misconduct for posing for a few snapshots with people one time, Juror #5 said something in front of other jurors that was biased towards the Prosecution and unfavorable to Mz. Arias. (Juror #5 either said something during the interview with the judge, or the fact that Juror #5 had said something was raised by another juror to the judge).

Good luck with that, Nurmi & Willmott.

They are going to do what they can. They are probably so frustrated with this whole case. They need to look at themselves and see the things they do that are just not right and quit blaming so many other people.
 
  • #862
He must like being a professional expert. How much money has he made of the system? to damn much.


DJERF v. SCHRIRO
United States District Court, D. Arizona.
September 29, 2008.


Dr. McMahon was responsible for compiling the results of testing obtained by all three mental health professionals. (RT 3/12/96 at 13-15.) The court set April 22, 1996, as the deadline for submission of his final report. (RT 4/9/96 at 5.) On April 19, 1996, Dr. McMahon compiled the mental health reports and faxed trial counsel his conclusion that Petitioner suffered from an antisocial personality disorder. (ROA-PCR, Am.Pet., Ex. D.) Dr. McMahon specifically rejected a diagnosis of schizophrenia and rejected any diagnosis that Petitioner suffered from any mental health issue that precluded his ability to appreciate the wrongfulness of his behavior or resulted in an inability to conform his behavior to the requirement of the law. (Id.) On April 23, 1996, trial counsel notified the court they would not be utilizing either Dr. McMahon's report or his testimony at sentencing. (RT 4/23/96 at 2.) Trial counsel requested and the court established a deadline for Dr. Walter to submit a final report. (Id. at 5.) However, there is no record of Dr. Walter completing and submitting such a report.
PCR proceedings
Petitioner presented Claim Four during his PCR proceedings. (ROA-PCR, Am. Pet. at 14-15.) Prior to filing his amended PCR petition, Petitioner sought and obtained appointment of a mental health expert, Dr. Richard Samuels. On two occasions, the PCR court granted contact visits for Dr. Samuels to perform mental health testing upon Petitioner. (ROA-PCR, Orders, 9/11/00 & 12/8/00.) Even though Dr. Samuels conducted a neuropsychological examination of Petitioner, PCR counsel did not submit any expert report in support of Claim Four.
Ultimately, the PCR court concluded that Petitioner had not established a colorable IAC claim and summarily dismissed the claim without granting an evidentiary hearing. (ROA-PCR, Order, 6/14/01.) The court explained:
The only evidence defendant presents to support this claim are psychiatric and psychological evaluations of defendant done either before the entry of the plea or before sentencing. Based on these numerous reports, which were available and considered by the court prior to sentencing, defendant simply speculates that there might be other mitigating information that should have been presented. This showing does not constitute a colorable claim for relief.
(Id.) Regarding the allegation that trial counsel failed to conduct an adequate social and family history investigation, the PCR court stated that "[Petitioner] has failed to present any evidence to support this claim; instead, he simply speculates that if his childhood was investigated, some mitigating evidence might have been discovered." (Id.)
Analysis

One good thing to come out of this trial is that I think the good Dr. Samuels is going to be perpetually unemployed!

Thanks to his utter annihilation on the stand under Mr. Juan Martinez, he just doesn't seem believable. AND it's on digital video for all Prosecutors finding this cretin in their courtroom.

"I beg your pardon, SIR!" -- I did enjoy his outbursts at Juan, tho!:floorlaugh:
 
  • #863
Facebook S vs JA - someone is stating that the motion was denied.
 
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Help anyone! With the names that trial watchers have given the jurors who would this be? Tricolor?

ETA: Just saw on the post before mine this would be Tricolor.

Here is my cartoon take on jurors.
jury.jpg
 
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How can I make the Photobucket images larger?

http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Sou...large.jpg.html
http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/wa...64932.jpg.html

The link takes me to the images - however, they are so small that I cannot make anything out.

I would like to be able to see the picture of Arias standing over Travis Alexander - some people see TA's foot, some people see both of Arias' legs, and Arias making a fist.

I would also like to see the images someone put together in a flow chart. This is at Photobucket too - however, I cannot see it as the images are so small (for me) at Photobucket.

Thanks in advance to the person that posts a link to see these images larger.


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Originally Posted by pip
Enlarge the pic on your screen. Then follow the seamline along the hem to the right. At the point the seamline changes to a more upward angle is the separation between the two pant legs. You can see the defining line as you look up the leg from where the hemline stitching changes course.
Computer stupid, trying to enlarge the picture, how do I do it?

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan
Thanks, but I still don't see it. ETA: His foot should be above the shoulder and not below it. JMO

So I'm now working on editing my video to explain that Juan is trying to show the time difference and how that relates to her being unable to accomplish it in 64 seconds.
BBM If he were laying flat on the ground his shoulder and foot would be more in alignment, however his shoulder was off the floor, he was not lying flat. The side view at the bottom of the picture shows the shoulder at a higher level too.

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http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Sou...large.jpg.html

http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/wa...64932.jpg.html
 
  • #868
Yes, they can talk to one another. Everyone of those jurors have a life outside the courtroom and that is usually the topic of conversation. Do they bond? Yes, most of them do. And it is not hard to imagine when they are sent back to the jury room repeatedly. I'm sure you can hear the groans. During that time in the jury room everyone gets a feel as to who they want to be the foreman. Not because they talk about the case but because they find that someone is a CEO in a company, or works in the legal field, or someone does a lot of public speaking for charity organizations, etc. When it comes time most of the people know they don't want that job but there is always someone in the room that can do it perfectly, or not so perfectly.
The National Organization of Victim Assistance trains volunteers be on Critical Response Teams. Sometimes these teams are asked to "debrief" jurors who truly do experience vicarious victimization in DP cases - some even develop PTSD from the testimony and awesome responsibility of deciding whether or not the guilty lives or dies.

Pray for these jurors.
 
  • #869
If am interpreting correctly, during the sealed in chambers questioning of all the jurors due to Nurmi's concern that Juan Martinez was guilty of Prosecutorial misconduct for posing for a few snapshots with people one time, Juror #5 said something in front of other jurors that was biased towards the Prosecution and unfavorable to Mz. Arias. (Juror #5 either said something during the interview with the judge, or the fact that Juror #5 had said something was raised by another juror to the judge).

Good luck with that, Nurmi & Willmott.

I can't help but wonder that someone may have made a comment about Nurmi's form of presentation. lol
 
  • #870
Miss Arias is requesting juror 5 be removed from trial.

Wonder if this was the cackling juror?
 
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It is down. I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised...he was *globally* raked across the coals and went from "washed up" shill to "famous" shill in about 30 minutes. I cant even imagine the emails he has gotten! ALV will be next....
BBM

Oh, yes. ALV is doing her level best to give Mr. Martinez all the ammo he needs to take her down.

That will be such a satisfying moment!

She triggers rage in me--she just reminds me of out-dated, frumpy, educated-but-ignorant, 1970's-feminist-Man-Hating waste of space.

Men are not "The Problem" in every situation. Women are capable of everything a man is--look at how heinously Travis was slaughtered. A WOMAN did that.

When she said "Patriarchal Terrorism" my mind shut off to anything else she spews from her mouth.

If you think that men are the problem 100% of the time, then you are simpleminded, ignorant and useless as a counselor. JMOO.
 
  • #873

Sounds like Juror #5 made comments in favor of the prosecution. :moo:

I was on a jury where a juror was dismissed for commenting to another juror he thought the defense attorney was a "putz". He later made a comment to all of us that he basically already made up his mind halfway through trial (only a 4 day trial); which we were instructed is a big no, no until you're in deliberations.
 
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Its def a woman, filing refers to her and she.
 
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I can't help but wonder that someone may have made a comment about Nurmi's form of presentation. lol

Poor Nurmi!

There's just such a contrast between Juan Martinez & his panther-like pacing and rapid-fire questioning (and sharp suits and handsome face! OK, OK...I'll stop) and Nurmi with his pregnant belly that keeps the back of his shirt perpetually untucked and makes him hitch his pants up all the time due to not having a rear-end.:floorlaugh:
 
  • #879
Its def a woman, filing refers to her and she.

Right - a female called Tricolor by the folks that came up with the names and illustrations for each juror.
 
  • #880
Yes, The Farm, I wrote that in all seriousness. The image was low-definition but not difficult to make out. (Speaking of Arias reflection at the shower)
 
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