MA - Aaron Hernandez, N E Patriots player, charged with homicides, commits suicide #7

[katydid23]

I think Jose Baez defends his clients thoroughly, and wisely.

Sure, by lying and throwing other people under the bus.

 

[turaj]

yes when you have lived his life with the drugs and more really hard to narrow any causation down...and since when did concussions etc. cause you to kill people as sport?

 

[popsicle]

More on those notes...

Investigators said they found three handwritten notes next to a Bible in the cell. WMUR's sister station WCVB reported that notes saying "I love you" and "Don't shed a tear" were written to his fiancee, Shayanna Jenkins-Hernandez, the couple's 4-year-old daughter, Avielle, and his legal team.

http://www.wmur.com/article/questions-abound-in-aftermath-of-aaron-hernandezs-death/9533116

[FONT=&quot]Investigators found three hand-written notes next to a Bible in the cell. We're told one of the notes addressed the general public, and the other 2 were written to specific people.

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:thinking:

 

[Elley Mae]

I think Jose Baez defends his clients thoroughly, and wisely.

Yea, he drives you to suicide, good job jose.

 

[Elley Mae]

Funny how prison turns people to religion.

[FONT=&quot]Investigators found three hand-written notes next to a Bible in the cell. We're told one of the notes addressed the general public, and the other 2 were written to specific people.

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:thinking:

 

[BUF]

Bob McGovern‏ @BobMcGovernJr
#AaronHernandez's attorneys are suing to force the state to maintain items surrounding his apparent suicide.

 

[ianthe]

Jmo the brain being looked at for chronic traumatic encephalopathy is just looking for an excuse for him being a murderer. Jmo

JMO

CTE needs more research. Listen, Aaron was found guilty of one murder and quite possibly committed several more on top of quite possibly permanently damaging another innocent man for life. Murder is unforgivable in almost every instance and he is not the exception to the rule. The thing is CTE, just like other types of brain damage, can cause severe personality changes, impulse control issues and the works. CTE could very well have had a heavy contribution in both his murder(s) and suicide. This is NOT an excuse. This is NOT downplaying the severity of his actions. He should have been held accountable and he was. I believe he was a monster all along. But it's also undeniable that brain damage can cause people to do things their healthy brain otherwise would not have, and it will accelerate and amplify emotions such as rage and despair. Whether the family wants to use it as an excuse is a personal matter with virtually no outside impact but his brain needs to be looked at for this because we desperately need more research on this disease and Aaron is an especially... special case, being a murderer and whatnot. More information on an atypical brain with CTE will have great consequences down the line. All JMO. The family's intentions here don't matter nearly as much as the amazing things studying his brain can do. This is something our children may end up with just playing high school sports. I would like to have information on such a damaging and prevalent disease (within sports) and the more information we have the better we can prevent it in the future.

That's my two cents anyway. Also "contribution" =/= "excuse". He was clearly an unstable and dangerous man and I'm glad he's forever marked as the murderer he was. It's a bit poetic and ironic that his best deed in life is leaving a body to be researched.

 

[Leilei]

Yea, he drives you to suicide, good job jose.

Mmmhmmm... how well is Casey doing nowadays? He's toxic and as bad as his clients.

 

[BUF]

What legal impact could the potential discovery of CTE in Aaron Hernandez's brain have?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/04/20/aaron-hernandez-brain-cte-legal-impact

 

[Rocco]

JMO

CTE needs more research. Listen, Aaron was found guilty of one murder and quite possibly committed several more on top of quite possibly permanently damaging another innocent man for life. Murder is unforgivable in almost every instance and he is not the exception to the rule. The thing is CTE, just like other types of brain damage, can cause severe personality changes, impulse control issues and the works. CTE could very well have had a heavy contribution in both his murder(s) and suicide. This is NOT an excuse. This is NOT downplaying the severity of his actions. He should have been held accountable and he was. I believe he was a monster all along. But it's also undeniable that brain damage can cause people to do things their healthy brain otherwise would not have, and it will accelerate and amplify emotions such as rage and despair. Whether the family wants to use it as an excuse is a personal matter with virtually no outside impact but his brain needs to be looked at for this because we desperately need more research on this disease and Aaron is an especially... special case, being a murderer and whatnot. More information on an atypical brain with CTE will have great consequences down the line. All JMO. The family's intentions here don't matter nearly as much as the amazing things studying his brain can do. This is something our children may end up with just playing high school sports. I would like to have information on such a damaging and prevalent disease (within sports) and the more information we have the better we can prevent it in the future.

That's my two cents anyway. Also "contribution" =/= "excuse". He was clearly an unstable and dangerous man and I'm glad he's forever marked as the murderer he was. It's a bit poetic and ironic that his best deed in life is leaving a body to be researched.

"Hernandez is not known to have received any concussions during either his NFL career with the Patriots or as an All-American with the University of Florida."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4429894/Did-NFL-injuries-drive-Aaron-Hernandez-suicide.html
ETA:
Perhaps a better study in his case would be "Effects on the Brain from Synthetic Mary Jane"

 

[Spellbound]

He is the "executer" of AH's will apparently.

OMG .... really? He milked this for all it was worth, I guess. :silenced:

 

[katydid23]

Baez is scrambling to make this look like a murder. A suicide by his star client looks bad for Baez. Makes him look like the low life phony that he really is.

 

[Leilei]

OMG .... really? He milked this for all it was worth, I guess. :silenced:

Not even a little bit shocked.

 

[turaj]

I assume that AH must have had a fairly detailed will and that he requested his brain be donated for study? Or can his mother request that? Shay really has no legal status with him correct?

 

[Elley Mae]

OMG .... really? He milked this for all it was worth, I guess. :silenced:

He's still milking it. That's why he's doing what he's doing, staying involved. Hopefully what he takes from the estate will be disclosed. Jmo
Room, food, limos, all of he will bill to the estate. Jmo

 

[MsJosie]

Bob McGovern‏ @BobMcGovernJr
#AaronHernandez's attorneys are suing to force the state to maintain items surrounding his apparent suicide.

It did not take long

 

[katydid23]

JMO

CTE needs more research. Listen, Aaron was found guilty of one murder and quite possibly committed several more on top of quite possibly permanently damaging another innocent man for life. Murder is unforgivable in almost every instance and he is not the exception to the rule. The thing is CTE, just like other types of brain damage, can cause severe personality changes, impulse control issues and the works. CTE could very well have had a heavy contribution in both his murder(s) and suicide. This is NOT an excuse. This is NOT downplaying the severity of his actions. He should have been held accountable and he was. I believe he was a monster all along. But it's also undeniable that brain damage can cause people to do things their healthy brain otherwise would not have, and it will accelerate and amplify emotions such as rage and despair. Whether the family wants to use it as an excuse is a personal matter with virtually no outside impact but his brain needs to be looked at for this because we desperately need more research on this disease and Aaron is an especially... special case, being a murderer and whatnot. More information on an atypical brain with CTE will have great consequences down the line. All JMO. The family's intentions here don't matter nearly as much as the amazing things studying his brain can do. This is something our children may end up with just playing high school sports. I would like to have information on such a damaging and prevalent disease (within sports) and the more information we have the better we can prevent it in the future.

That's my two cents anyway. Also "contribution" =/= "excuse". He was clearly an unstable and dangerous man and I'm glad he's forever marked as the murderer he was. It's a bit poetic and ironic that his best deed in life is leaving a body to be researched.

But not everyone that plays football has brain damage. Some do and some don't.

 

[MsJosie]

So a question for a medical person....how much damage can be done to the brain with each autopsy? Will the researchers have anything really left?

A question for a legal person....when the defense has their person or person do an autopsy or autopsies, does the city/state/prison have people in the room so that the body and evidence is not 'messed with'?

 

[TeaTime]

Baez is brilliant. I like him. He gets results. He is exactly the kind of lawyer everyone wants, totally committed to his client and thinking 10 steps ahead.

The coroner can only keep the brain until he/she obtains some frozen sections, then the family gets it. The family can also have coroner's frozen sections examined by their own pathologists. I seriously doubt that the coroner is incapable of performing this exam to determine whether CTE was present or not.

AH was competent to stand trial on 3 murders in 2 trials. If he had brain damage from CTE, he would have acted out in the courtroom where the stress and lack of control is overwhelming. But, Baez's clients have the right to have this determined. It will be done.

I don't care that he committed suicide. What option did he have other than life in hell on Earth? Seems like a rational decision to me.

I only wish he had killed himself before he took the lives of others and before he fathered a child.

 

[jkly]

Bob McGovern‏ @BobMcGovernJr
#AaronHernandez's attorneys are suing to force the state to maintain items surrounding his apparent suicide.

Of course they are. How heroic of them.

It reminds me of Baez helping to sue the Dark Night theater for not having enough exits.